The difference between TRP and feminism

enclosed10 · 2014-05-29T02:14:24+00:00

Yep. TRP wants to get to the mountaintop, feminists want the mountain razed to wherever they are standing

SkorchZang · 2014-05-28T22:57:13+00:00

Good stuff.

The underlying philosophical basis of feminism is universally loathsome: good feminism, bad feminism, beneficent feminism, malignant feminism... It doesn't matter, they are all toxic forms of herd ressentiment against the privileged, characteristic for slave morality.

"I am good because I'm small, helpless, and victimized."

"You are evil because you are big, strong, and successful!"

vengefully_yours · 2014-05-29T07:01:05+00:00

Lowering the bar is easier than climbing over it.

tallwheel · 2014-05-29T04:47:27+00:00

we accept reality, and we choose to play the game.

And if you get sick of the game or choose not to, then you will be MGTOW.

anarchopianist · 2014-05-29T05:25:10+00:00

Reading redpill actually made me less misogynistic, and like women more, but without the princessy shit. Imagine a whale going up to Elliot Rodgers and touching his dick and see what he'd do, of course it's fine for him to have preferences. Women can like what ever the fuck they want, feminists are mad that we teach this because they have less reason to hate us, so they say we teach the opposite lol. What are they looking for more than for targets to shit on?

http://www.alternet.org/how-pick-artist-philosophy-and-its-more-misogynist-backlash-shaped-mind-alleged-killer-elliot-rodger

Articles like this get it so fucking backwards. If "men are fine the way they are" like we teach then why the fuck would we teach pick up..

eisbaerBorealis · 2014-05-29T01:19:44+00:00

So does that mean RPW are women who have made it out of the mourning phase and have started to accept responsibility in becoming more successful with the opposite gender? (newb here)

ablank1313 · 2014-05-29T03:57:40+00:00

I thin that the differences between the two are mainly the focuses of the "movements". TRP is a very individual thing, whereas feminism seeks a societal change.

Cyralea · 2014-05-29T13:28:25+00:00

That's what I see as the difference: A feminist is perpetually stuck in the mourning phase. She cannot, nor will she ever, accept reality and move on.

The first part of overcoming adversity is admitting you have a problem. Feminists flat out deny that they are their own source of misery, the same way an alcoholic does. Instead of interventions, feminists gather together to pile on more of their mental drug.

Feminists are damaged.

exit_sandman · 2014-05-29T00:29:01+00:00

That's what I see as the difference: A feminist is perpetually stuck in the mourning phase. She cannot, nor will she ever, accept reality and move on. She resolves to continue battling nature for the rest of her life, deluding herself into thinking she can change the biology of billions of men. Amazingly, she really believes that a man's aversion to an overweight / post-wall / post-carousel female is a product of misogyny and patriarchy rather than raw biology, and that it's her duty to help reverse this social ill. If men aren't attracted to her, it's the fault of men, patriarchy, society, the media -- anyone but herself. Therefore she should not have to change. So she never does.

Gold. I wondered that myself, by the way, because in many ways agents of the manosphere and those of feminism are equally vitriolic and adversial not just towards its opponents, but towards the other gender as a whole.

But regardless of how people stand to the basic tenets of the Women's Rights Movement (and I think they actually did have quite a bunch of very reasonable and legitimate claims, even if that will probably get me drawn and quartered here), the fundamental difference between feminism (not just radical feminism) and TRP is that while TRP tries to play in the system, feminism wants to transform it so it conforms to its ideology instead of adapting to reality.

raceAround126 · 2014-05-29T12:26:25+00:00

I work my ass off to become what women are naturally attracted

Agree apart from this. This isn't why I work my ass off. At least, not anymore.

TheGreenPill · 2014-05-29T12:56:30+00:00

The Red Pill is the initially bitter understanding that you are responsible, which later becomes the amazing liberation that is; you are responsible

Feminism is the realization that you can force others to look after you and you'll never have to lift a finger to support yourself ever again.

Sirinon · 2014-05-29T12:57:15+00:00

TRP is personal, feminism is about spreading your word to others.

I am RP but you wont find much evidence of that in my other posts on Reddit or in my daily life, aside from my actions.

RPtooLate · 2014-05-29T15:21:01+00:00

It comes down to self-agency for men and appeal-to-authority for women. Which I suppose stems from innate societal value. Actually it's funny all the connections you will make if you go deep enough.

A lot of women's outrage seems to stem from a very base level of "Society(men) is failing to protect me and my innate value." 'Men are failing us,' says woman planning demonstration However, feminism itself is fighting against this very innate value.

needmorefat · 2014-05-29T17:33:25+00:00

That's because most women won't feel affection for a man she does not respect, whereas many but not all men will feel affection for a woman even if he doesn't actually respect her as an honorable and competent person. It's called "Paternalism".

Unlike most men, once the penis is "off the pedestal", so to speak, most women won't really desire it any more. They'll hold out for the "unicorn" who isn't like all the rest...or as TRP prefers to term it, "hypergamy".

Jaereth · 2014-05-29T18:23:41+00:00

Key difference: Sphere of Influence. TRP focuses on you. Don't like the way something is? Change yourself. Pretty successful because you can control yourself, if nothing else.

Feminism is: Don't like the way something is? Try and influence others and get society to change in order to fix it. The problem is what they are usually trying to change is something that's been hard-wired into the human brain.

Why do I find skinny chicks with perky boobs attractive and disgusting plumpers unattractive? Idk I just do. I didn't do it as a conscious decision to shame fatties, I just do.

I just do fatties. I was born that way.

/rant

supremecommand3r · 2014-05-29T08:52:46+00:00

I want to clarify something though. Once we accept the truth, do we then just take advantage of the game? If women can't help themselves, we shouldn't either once we get there? I assume yes because once you get that girl, showing weakness or love is disastrous.

FortunateBum · 2014-05-29T02:06:00+00:00

Mainstream, bluepill thinking equates TRP to radical feminism.

Wow, news to me. I thought TRP was more like the KKK. I guess this is a step up.

But good analysis. Acceptance. Change yourself, not the world. The world is pretty hard to change unless you're an extremely large meteor.

Title	The difference between TRP and feminism
Author	goodguy29
Upvotes	66
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Date	May 28, 2014 9:54 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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