Was your father an Alpha or a Beta?

Sufferix · 2014-02-12T09:31:45+00:00

My dad is a massive alpha but was also a massive asshole. He's old as fuck now so he's not as alpha and not as asshole-ish.

benczi · 2014-02-12T12:03:13+00:00

Mine is a total beta, and an alcoholic too to make things better. . So every day my parents would fight, and I would get beaten or threatened to get beaten daily. He never bothered to teach me anything, or spend time with me, but if I did something he didn't like he would just beat me. He had this theory, that kids have to be thought and trained the way dogs are, thou he hardly ever bothered to do it. It totally fucked up my whole life. Not only did they not teach me anything, not even how to speak properly, but what I did learn from my parents were all the wrong things. I never had a real relationship, and don't even know how to have one. So now I just focus on getting freedom (fi!), and building value, ... and (I waste way too much money on) having fun following my passions. Just turned 30 few months ago and I hate my parents more than anything in this world.

birdwontquit · 2014-02-12T17:24:21+00:00

My dad is a strange mix. And, surprise, surprise, so am I. Intelligent, dominant, hard working, tremendously wealthy, not afraid to stand up for himself, very controlling in his relationships with women (too much), prone to anger (too much). However, he also suffers from low self-esteem, neediness, is a slave to his emotions, and has a victim mentality. People are not so easily divided into the camps TRP would like to divide them into.

emptyform · 2014-02-12T10:38:25+00:00

Alpha at a young age, stayed so at work, was rather betaized by my mom at home.

Even though it started well. When they first met at the workers evening school my mom was convinced he is a huge asshole who thinks he is better than everybody. Then she fell in love with him. Ideal start, right? Still managed to betaize.

The most interesting and come to think of it weirdest part is that dad stayed alpha in the sense of being a really respected boss at work and had authority amongst friends, respecting his opinion and also fairly muscular, and really going through life in a dedicated way, but he never showed the slightest amount of sexual interest like flirting with any woman than my mom and not much towards her either. Nor towards men nor anything, it is not that case.

Just... a manly, driven guy, kinda high T yet with his libido turned off totally.

You see, I still don't see the relationship between being a driven, dominant male and having a high sex drive even though the hormonal connection is obvious. I am still not seeing my life or my relationships primarily through the viewpoint of sexual satisfaction. Sort of hard, the whole thing. I could easily be very manly and yet "chaste" - like a templar knight. I know I am being weird in this. It's just the role model I guess.

halfevilnick · 2014-02-12T09:16:46+00:00

My father was a massive beta and my mother was actively hypergamous. She left him for another man shortly after he lost his job. He ended up with a domineering bitch who left him after he had a stroke.

I think his bitterness, my mother and sisters contempt for him and my need for my mothers approval turned me into a beta. I didn't want to become him. But, of course, by my mid 20s I pretty much had.

Edit: For some reason I've never thought about my childhood in a TRP context. Thanks for the question.

TheIslander829 · 2014-02-12T18:22:23+00:00

Mine was a total player until he knocked up my mom. Yep, I'm an accident.

He was a photographer doing her high school senior yearbook, she was 18, he was 28.

He always tells me how easy we have it today, with cellphones and the internet.

I think he's a natural. He only gave me 2 pieces of advice, and both go perfectly with alpha behavior.

Don't let her know immediately that you're interested in her.
Just talk slowly to her. Calm the fuck down.

Thanaton · 2014-02-12T12:06:19+00:00

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betabux · 2014-02-12T12:50:59+00:00

Mine started working at age 9, that's right age 9. Youngest one of four brothers, he had a hard working sicilian father and a very absent lazy mother, so most of his childhood consisted of doing pranks, breaking things, working and then getting punished by his father for doing bad things. He finished highschool and then started to work even more, had plenty of businesses (restaurants, car lots) but eventually they all had to close down.

From what my mom and uncles told me, he was always successful with the females and always cared about his looks and was always clean (narcissist?) He got some woman pregnant before meeting my mom who, at the time, was 20 and he was 31.

As a father he would always get me what I wanted, I think I was a spoiled child pretty much because my dad always loved to get me what I wanted.

My mom is from a different country than he is (he met her while he was the owner of a restaurant in that country). When they got married he forced her to move to his country with her, which she did. Mom ditched uni and most of her family to go live with my dad in a country unknown to her.

He had a divorce with mom when I was 13. Mom says she just got tired of his shit, she says he would hit her sometimes and even cheat on her.. the main reason for divorce though she says is because my dad always into some shady shit that could land him in jail and the laws of the country they were living dictates that if the husband goes to jail so does the wife and thus that leaves me and my sister without parents for a while and she didn't want that.

Last time I saw my father was in early 2007. To this still day I talk with him every other day thru the phone. He is been jail since December 2012 for god knows what and talks with me thru the jail phone. He is/was a hard working man but always went for money/pussy on the side. I had a memory of him giving me my weekend money and a bunch of fake bills and dimes, he would tell me to squeeze the bills in my hand so they don't seem that fake and then use oil and dirt to get the dimes dirty so they don't look that clean. I thought that was pretty cool back then.

Despite all this I still love my dad and I hope I get to see him again. My mom felt pretty sad when she got notice that he was in jail for a while, despite being married to another man now and having this other man's child. When I see my mom talk to dad, she talks with him with such enthusiasm, like if they were very old friends.

Thanks dad for based tall guy genetics.

Progress_Is_Hard · 2014-02-12T14:19:53+00:00

My Father is very Alpha. My house is very TRP, with my Father having the final say on anything. He started from nothing but a degree in Philosophy and Religion and turned it into becoming CEO of his own futures trading company, which is one of the hardest businesses to get into. He never shouts but he tears down arguments and destroys people with logic, it's very funny.

Mintaka7 · 2014-02-12T15:06:27+00:00

My father is extremely alpha. He is pure Dark Triad, chauvinist, sexist, asshole, you know the kind. My mom is very traditional, so they didn't work (he constantly cheated). He was raised by his mother, so he never learned how to be a father.

So I got one of the alphaest men I've known as a dad, but all he taught me was how to be beta. Because he didn't like the competition.

rednukleus · 2014-02-12T20:30:29+00:00

Both grandfathers and my father: alpha as all hell. Me, I grew up just with my mom and sister. My mom's parenting style was overly repressive, out of fear that I would turn out like my father. I was molded to be non-aggressive, gentle, quiet, complacent, basically effeminate. My younger sister had all the freedom she wanted growing up, because she was female and my mom didn't see her as a danger. Total role reversal upbringings.

randombole · 2014-02-12T10:00:42+00:00

Mine was a total alpha. Unfortunately also a total ass. He took far more than he gave from the family. The only thing that matters in his world is him. It put me off alpha for a while.

charlie_bodango · 2014-02-12T08:58:08+00:00

Beta. Mother is feminist. Both extremely liberal. I was too, until I gained some experience. I feel that the more life experience men get, the more they can see through the bullshit they've been fed. Some of my childhood friends never left our hometown, and most are beta. At best they're alpha hipster musician/artist types.

Boss_Monkey · 2014-02-12T11:40:55+00:00

Beta. He just hung up the phone on me for being 'selfish'. What kind of man hangs up on someone? My crime? Not serving my sister's whims. He wants me to be a niceguy whiteknight for her.

He unloads all of his emotions on me like a chick would. I am at a loss in trying to respect him. He has allowed my sister to destroy her family. He supports her and makes a monster out of her ex-husband. He will not lead.

He has created a reaction inside of me. We always argue this point:

Him: perception is reality.

Me: reality is reality. perception is perception.

I know now that manipulation is a feminine art. Relying on perception is a weakness. I am striving to be a better man. I have sons. I know they need me to lead. All this is because I have seen the opposite. I have felt the weight of a grown man's emotional baggage on a boy's frame. It may have shaped me in ways unknown. I am stronger now. I am out from under that weight. I choose not to use emotions as weapons. I control my emotions. Stoic FTW. Stoicism wears well on a man.

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The_smartest_man_evr · 2014-02-12T09:58:57+00:00

My father was .... fucking psychotic at the best of times. Some people use money to get what they want, this man used fear and intimidation. Absolute lunatic. Moved country when all his kids were grown to marry a 27 year old eastern european woman. I haven't even spoke to him in about 3 years, he could easily have more children by now, I wouldn't be surprised, he never really gave a fuck what people thought about him.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-02-12T13:13:45+00:00

He affected alpha around men but acted like the ultimate beta towards his wife. Probably your typical 'alpha chump' type in his early adult life -- high T and hard-charging but no game at all, settled for an objective 4 who openly admitted to baby-trapping him after kid #3. I have no contact with nor any sort of respect for either of my parents. I spent much of my early adulthood shrinking away from being alpha in part because I associated those traits (in my head calling them 'being a Neanderthal') with my dad.

He threw everyone including family under the bus -- even his own brothers and parents, who did nothing to him but pissed off my mother. He refused to visit my grandpa on his deathbed because 'it would upset [mother] if I went' -- who the fuck even says that?

phoneprofile · 2014-02-12T15:02:54+00:00

Alpha at work, beta at home.

Good2Go5280 · 2014-02-12T17:51:57+00:00

A beta. He has been married four times. His advice on women: "Be nice to them." This fucked me up for years.

SgtSplacker · 2014-02-12T18:17:10+00:00

My dad was alpha because he was just an asshole about everything. Everything was NO. Always pissed off for no reason. Now he's older and he's a nice guy. I still hate him for it, lol. Going to make sure the same relationship he created with me stays the same way now that he needs help from me in his older years. It affected me positively because I have never had help for anything. He sent my sister to law school, didn't do squat for me. Feels good owning a home and being successful and knowing I did it by myself. He did loan me a little money in my later years and let me keep it, but I paid him back. It was just not worth not being able to say I did it myself anymore. Also a subtle slap in the face I took advantage of. He should have been kinder and given value to our relationship when I was younger and needed his support more. It's too late now. He will reap what he sow'd. I hope my sister is ready to be the one that wipes his arse for him, because he's been wiping hers long enough. And me? I'll wipe my own TYVM.

heist_of_saint_graft · 2014-02-12T18:47:22+00:00

Used to think he was Alpha. Then after swallowing TRP I realized that yelling and slamming doors isn't alpha, it's beta rage. Mom had him right where he wanted, they collaborated to make each other miserable. There was literally no way he was going to ever leave her. Once she figured that out she made him start doing household chores on top of working 60 - 70 hours a week at a highly physical job.

Them two are the only reasons I'll ever need not to marry.

2014-02-12T18:50:34+00:00

I was raised by my mother. You can imagine how that went.

My father was a beta but he has since manned up.

wakingslowdiver · 2014-02-12T21:46:54+00:00

My father was a total beta. And also an alcoholic, former drug abuser, a wifebeater and an all-around asshole.

Since leaving our family when I was seven, hasn't showed any interest at all. I haven't had any contact in 5 years. As far as I know he lives alone and pretty much drinks all day. If he dropped dead tommorrow, I wouldn't be sad or happy: I would not feel any emotion at all.

My mother was mentally unstable during my childhood and couldn't really raise children properly. There were also terrible fights between my sisters and mother. Screaming and throwing stuff etc, it was enough to drive anyone insane. I was more of a quiet kid.

I haven't had a father figure in my life at all. It has affected me in that I haven't had a clue how to "game" women in high school and college. Ofcourse mother and sisters are useless when it comes to dating advice, scratch that, women in general are useless at dating advice. Yes I was the beta white knight for years, and obviously did not get laid much. My only working "game" consisted of trolling clubs for barely fuckable women drunk enough to sleep with anyone (the "game" I suspect most men who don't swallow the red pill have). What I remember most from this period was how women hated me for my weakness. Men always respected me and were nice to me.

Only the crazy wanted me. Cutters and borderline girls. though pussy starved, I was smart enough to not get into a relationship with those girls. Five years ago I had an epiphany that I should cut ties with anyone who doesn't contribute positivily with my life in any way shape or form and get rid of "negative nancies". My life has significantly improved.

So much for my life story.

Hateblade · 2014-02-12T09:40:54+00:00

Not really sure. He's definitely manly. Taught me how to work on cars and build houses and he always been in control of himself. I've seen him quit tobacco cold turkey after almost 20 years of smoking, and he did the same thing with alcohol. I've also never seen him get angry. He's been angry, sure, but I've never seen it. He's told me of some stories that sound pretty red pill to me, like forbidding my mom from taking his kids anywhere without him knowing when she tried to dump him early in their marriage. They stayed married until she died, but afterwards, I feel like my dad's gotten soft. that probably comes with the territory of losing someone, but I can't help but think that my dad's kinda lost without having someone.

My dad did his best to raise me right, but in the end I feel that a special set of circumstances left me too closely in the care of my mother during my adolescence and gave me completely the wrong idea about the important things in life. I guess dad came from a time where no one really had to go out of their way to teach you red pill principles, so it may have never occurred to him to show me their importance. Unfortunately, that's no longer true.

Human_v2 · 2014-02-12T10:08:43+00:00

I'm really proud of my old man, he has his own business, flirts outrageously with all the women he meets in his day to day life (works in restaurants) but loves my mother still.

He doesn't supplicate to her or anything but she supports him from time to time. My mum is very emotional and my dad is solid. He doesn't hide when he is angry but he doesn't pile his emotions onto other people.

It has taken me a long time to realise how great he is to be honest.

Exactly_what_I_think · 2014-02-12T09:14:55+00:00

I don't know.

My parents where married fresh out of high school. My dad never gave me any beta advice about women or any advice about women. He never raised others kids or let my mom tell him what to do. Still married today.

TeasingPenguin · 2014-02-12T09:55:39+00:00

From what I remember early on and his reputation, alpha. I've always wondered if I would of been more alpha than I was beta to begin with or a different sort of person if he was still around before leaving at around 10 years old...

Spookybear_ · 2014-02-12T10:39:41+00:00

I don't know. He isn't successful, seems to submit to comfort (he's a smoker and doesn't quit even though he has a horrible cough). Also had some minor gambling problems. He follows his dreams though as an artist.

He was originally a carpenter. Met a women and got 2 kids with her. He decided all of the sudden to become an artist and quit his job. She didn't like this, so they broke up. 3 years later he met my mom, when she came to his country as a midwife. My mom isn't a feminist, she's also somewhat free minded, but not slutty at all. Probably the best woman I know. They moved back to my mom's country when I was born. They lived together for 3 months after this and my dad didn't like the country, the landscape and moved back.

As an artist he is still broke and I don't speak with him. He has been overprotective and tried putting boundaries on my life even though I never saw him more than a few weeks a year.

He seems alpha as he does whatever he please, but at the same time, he has never been a good rolemodel for me.

dixiedownunder · 2014-02-12T10:50:07+00:00

An alpha who tried to be a beta. He thought that was what was wrong with him. My mother had all of her children with him, but then dumped him for the beta bucks.

kasp-throwaway · 2014-02-12T11:04:21+00:00

My dad is Alpha as.

He was pretty much an action man amazing at everything he touched and was in a specialized unit in the army. He was also an amazing athlete, brawler, surfer and just completely dominated everyone and everything. Then he lost his arm in an accident when he was 23 I think kinda changed things.

He was still physically dominate even after losing an arm however he sharpened his skills at manipulation and actually was fairly mentally abusive to my mother.

I guess he taught me never let anyone walk all over you.

2014-02-12T11:22:02+00:00

I don't really know. I think he married below his value (I just assume my mother was low trouble, low experience as her strong point). but my mother divorced him when I was 4.5 and i rarely saw him (this was across continents too so when I did see him it involved lots of spare time and planes)

psi_storm · 2014-02-12T13:48:45+00:00

My dad is alpha now that I think about it. My mom always does what he says and I never hear them argue. Also he's an asshole at times to people but this can be fucking hilarious.

Tastysalad101 · 2014-02-12T14:19:49+00:00

Hmmm i'd say 50/50.

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rockmasterflex · 2014-02-12T16:11:29+00:00

Well he was an alcoholic, misc drug abuser, and overall terrible decision maker whose life amibitions never escalated beyond driving a truck and having 2-3 broken down cars in the driveway... is there a level below beta? Help me, greek alphabet.

Zackcid · 2014-02-12T16:18:19+00:00

I suppose he was alpha after all, just never put much thought into it.

I'd say it fucked me up tremendously, but as I got out of being a teenager, I began realizing that a lot of it was essential tough love. Being told that sex is bad, and moving to different cities every other year made it extremely difficult for me to strive, along with plenty of other disadvantages. He never bothered explicitly transmitting any of the alpha attitude, so I was squashed into betahood all the way to my 19th birthday.

My only resources to learning how to be a man came from the bluepill society, so we all know what that leads to.

fiat_lux_ · 2014-02-12T16:56:57+00:00

Mostly beta. He fears what others think and has a "keep your head down away from the light" mentality that was taught by his environment. He kept his head down, studied and worked hard, gained trust, got funding to leave the country to study abroad... And he used that as his escape ticket.

Being alpha would have gotten him ostracized, jailed, or killed.

That style rubbed off on me, and had both positive and negative effects... In the USA it doesn't hurt to be in the limelight, and it shouldn't.

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rumbledust · 2014-02-12T17:19:26+00:00

He's pretty old (mid 50's), grew up on a family farm. He clearly comes from a time when society did a lot of the work in keeping your woman in check but also when society raised a guy to naturally know how to do it yourself. Very successful (especially considering his starting point) but not a high powered executive. He still lifts and is buff.

He's a remnant of the era when you could easily be alpha fucks and beta bucks at the same time and get a good girl without having to build your life around keeping a slut in line and be able to raise a very good family with no drama or bullshit.

Unfortunately society has taken away all the incentives to being a classic 'good man' like he is. There's no cute girl waiting for me after I graduate college who I won't have to worry about cheating on me or divorcing me if she feeeeelz like it.

W-Z-R · 2014-02-12T17:37:25+00:00

Both and neither

hypermasculine, but also a lazy tosser and now I am young and manly and he is old and pathetic I dick on the old fucker at every opportunity

My mum's dad was by far the best male role model I've had, player in his youth, totally worshiped my grandmother.

MockingDead · 2014-02-12T17:53:02+00:00

Beta. Servile, abused, unable to maintain jobs very well. He can read emotions well but not really understand them. he had access to the dark triad but being incapable socially left him hopeless.

He brought flowers to my mom at random times, and did nice things for her, and took care of her when she was ill. So I guess he was a "good beta" - most of the time my mom didn't stray (she thought about it a few times). But given RP theory, when she was ill she was using him.

mordanus · 2014-02-12T17:58:15+00:00

My dad was alpha in his actions and beta as fuck in his advice. He would get drunk as fuck and beat who he wanted. He cheated on my mom all the time. Women would show up at our house and ask my mom where they could find him. He would then give us talks about how we were all special snowflakes and shit like that.

PlanB_pedofile · 2014-02-12T18:07:21+00:00

Alpha, but made me beta when I found out he cheated on my mom and never mentioned I had 2 younger sisters. I was 15 when I found out and my younger sisters and they were 12 and 11.

He was always right about a lot of things, but I did the opposite of his advice out of resentment at the time.

He was alpha. He kept the family together and now I have a relationship with my younger siblings as if they were in the family all along.

He followed the family curse of dying before 60. It wasn't till after his death I discovered his accomplishments, community service, his youth. It explains a lot of what I'm doing and what I am as I inherited his instincts.

SomersetRaglan · 2014-02-12T18:23:18+00:00

My father is a dedicated provider type from an eastern european country. But he has a very strong personality, a very keen intellect, and a very healthy distrust of women.

So while he never taught me how to bang chicks, he did teach me that girls are stupid and irrational, will say anything to appear right, should not be trusted with anything, especially money, and are just out to snag husbands.

How did this affect me? I grew up with a very negative attitude towards women. It never got me laid, but it was a decent base to launch into RP from. I actually became a white knight after a relationship where I treated a girl like shit for 2 years until she cut herself and needed therapy after. I felt so bad I overcompensated and went into a whole 'women are vulnerable and need help' mode. Then another relationship taught me otherwise, once I realized that everything ive seen in my life follows RP to a T.

My father was helpful for my return to the red side. He reminded me that AWALT because he was able to tell me what kind of person my gf was even though he talked to her for ten minutes, and I thought I knew her.

If he could know her so well, just because she was a woman....well shit, that's all the proof I need.

grandmazboy · 2014-02-12T21:05:52+00:00

Old man is alpha. Aggressive, impatient, thinks he knows everything and used to be quite the drinker. Alcoholism coupled with my defensive and overly annoying mother caused me to hide behind my mother when the bull got angry. She projected this bad light on him, but never intentionally. I chose sides with my mom, and it made me a beta.

Got older, realized he was hard working and pissed off at life. Now he's sort of a role model for me. Cheers pops.

WALLOM · 2014-02-12T21:24:26+00:00

My father was pretty alpha in his earlier years. He is the youngest of 4 siblings, and grew up with a thick skin and was always a ladies man. He married my mother (she was 18, he was 28) and then had me a year later and my younger brother a year after that. Even after they got married, he stayed his alpha-self. Always complimenting other women, teasing/trolling, while being your typical manly football watching disciplinarian. Only problem was he never balanced alpha/beta enough to please my mother and they divorced when I was about 7.

My dad moved out, moved on, got his visitation rights on the weekends, and that became the "new norm." While I had my issues with having to live with my mother (especially as I grew older and wanted to move with dad to pursue hockey at a different school), I kind of dealt with the idea of playing puck as an afterthought.

He eventually started dealing cocaine which got him in trouble and he went to jail for four years (2001-2004) and as a result my only real fatherly advice came from my mom's new BF (reasonably alpha in his own regard), who met my mom around 1997/8. They married after having a couple kids themselves around the same time my dad got released

I had grow up admiring my dad, and while his prison time changed things, we are extremely close again. He has reinvented himself (more beta now thanks to a new GF) but still shows flashes of his young alphaness.

McDoogleSnatch · 2014-02-12T21:43:29+00:00

When you get down to it, the Alpha and Beta monikers work only in superficial terms. A person's entire persona is defined by their parents, culture, choices they've made and experiences they've encountered. All of which create nuances in a person's character.

My Dad was "Alpha," but only in the sense that he carved out his lot in life and gave zero fucks. He was also staunchly conservative and was never a philanderer. The problem is that my parents divorced long before his positive traits could be instilled in me and he never took an active role afterwards to "raise me." That was left up to my mother.

Both of my parents had their problems, but they both had many positive attributes as well. It is what it is.

jakeinmn · 2014-02-12T22:11:26+00:00

When he was in highschool, he was on four varsity sports teams. In college, he continued to practice highjumping. Went into olympics and competed and won a gold metal. However, he didnt flaunt his athleticism and women didnt come to him/ and was/is just a funny as fuck guy. You can argue both sides.

General_Fear · 2014-02-13T00:14:46+00:00

Beta who thought he was an alpha. I believe my mom beat the alpha out of him.

2014-02-13T03:56:21+00:00

Was? Still is a beta. A little obnoxious, not a lot of self-awareness. Hell of a guy though. Friendly and fun.

sluz · 2014-02-13T05:21:59+00:00

He's a mix.

He powerlifted and got pretty big. I'm jealous of all his old photos. He looked great. Also, he's the most driven, hardest working person I know. Great with DIY stuff and very disciplined. Manly hobbies.

I'd say he's beta in the sense that my mom ran the show in the family more than she should have. He serves her. He definitely held his own with her, but I think he should have taken more ground than that. With decision making, I wish he was the one we looked to more often. He makes good money doing consulting while my mom runs her own business, but he still does most of the grunt work for it. I've seen this dynamic wearing him down in recent years and I think he's getting more alpha.

I've seen this play out a lot in my brother's marriage too. I try to slip in RP ideas when I can, but it's too fragile at the moment.

bleh321 · 2014-02-13T05:54:47+00:00

My father was the epitome of asshole..

He has anger management issues, rules with iron fist (disciplinary extremes), overly dominant and sexist (would typical use lines like men need to do and be x), truely believed in 'man of the house' judgement, treated my mother flat out horribly - often told her she looked fat wearing that dress in front of my sister and I and would not give her any say whatsoever in terms of decision-making even when he was wrong (when he was wrong he never admitted to being at fault - would simply brush it aside by saying "sometimes mistakes are made")

He was often awkward in groups of people. Every word he said he would continually nail it into their heads until they flat out agreed with him.

And so, I typically grew up not liking him nor wanting to be like him. However it has all changed now and I can respect what he does and why he does it.

Can I describe my father as alpha? I'm not sure... maybe TRP can help identify. Still yet to fully patch things up with him as you can assume, lots of clashes went on between him and I.

Knabinemisto · 2014-02-13T05:58:24+00:00

My father wasn't even a beta. He was a delta. No ambition to improve his life, he sat on the couch all day watching TV while my mother worked. But that was only when he wasn't out getting drunk. I never really looked up to him as a father and we never did anything together. It's affected me because I could have learned alot from a positive male role model in my life but I really missed out on alot. Haven't talked to him in months and it only makes me feel happy.

Jaqar · 2014-02-12T09:39:05+00:00

My father is one of the most successful people I know.

He's very well built and is respected by many not only for he deals with people in a gentle, yet firm way, but also because respects my mother and the family.

Because of his success, he could always afford to spend a lot of his time with the family. My parents' marriage is very stable, almost 30 years now.

SWALLOWTHISPILLBITCH · 2014-02-12T09:06:10+00:00

Mine is a MASSIVE BETA. I would see him over the summertime's of my youth, and he would fucking parrot the shit he had been told. "Just be a good person, someone will fall for you, it will just happen...". I'm pretty bitter about it honestly.

My mother has no qualms about telling me that I wouldn't be here if she weren't the aggressor in the relationship. They both dated for maybe eight months, and through good, old-fashioned irresponsibility he managed to carry on his genes.

I became a massive beta, my childhood full of frustrating LJBF shit; just because I didn't know any better. I'm 33 now, around when I was 27 I found the book "The Game" and became familiar with pick-up. I became much less frustrated and had more success. I wasn't a total beta, lost my virginity at 17 and would have a girlfriend from time to time.

But if I had a father who would have been any kind of alpha, that would've saved me from a lot of pain.

2014-02-12T13:50:24+00:00

my dad was a huge feminist. my mom, however, was not. my dad wouldnt allow it

zeroday22 · 2014-02-12T10:26:12+00:00

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sluz · 2014-02-12T08:36:05+00:00

Mine started out Beta.

He was a true White Knight that came in to rescue both of his wives but it was a waste of time, money and energy. His ex-wives and step-kids still resent him for his heroic efforts.

After that, he seemed to understand Red Pill type of thinking and went MGTOW. He had a very Red Pill ideology in his older years.

Title	Was your father an Alpha or a Beta?
Author	sluz
Upvotes	15
Comments	90
Date	February 12, 2014 8:09 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1xozha/was_your_father_an_alpha_or_a_beta/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/was-your-father-an-alpha-or-a-beta.11225 https://theredarchive.com/post/11225

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