What I learned from the sub niceguys

Iappreci8thegr8r8m8 · 2017-01-06T18:27:58+00:00

Life is much more simple when you assume no one owes you anything and you deserve nothing.

Everything you have was earned not deserved. Every kindness you receive was given not owed.

It's slightly nihilistic in some ways but it can be very balancing.

WerewolfofWS · 2017-01-06T21:29:14+00:00

"Nice" guys are generally lazy and fail to take action in pursuing what they actually want. They are passive and not proactive.

Auphor_Phaksache · 2017-01-06T17:43:27+00:00

NiceGuys is my #7 favorite sub Reddit. Comedy for days.

slothsenpai · 2017-01-06T18:45:50+00:00

I frequently browse through that subreddit and though there's a bit of cringe here and there, the odd "fuck you bitch" comments and a bit of humour that I can appreciate, most of them are extremely vile and mean-spirited towards them, even if they are genuinely nice (not in a manipulative type of way). I have commented on the few odd occasions telling them of my experiences, that it's true that women do prefer asshole types, that being nice is often conflated with weakness but only go for these types as a plan-B after they hit the wall etc, I get greeted with a ton of insults and flak.

Nice guys aren't inherently bad people; no matter how kind and altruistic one may be, everyone has a breaking point. Every single one of these dudes just need a bit of advice and direction, who can blame them after listening to pop culture and all that feminist bullshit. If it's anything I learned over my personal years and TRP, people lack compassion and have no empathy whatsoever if you're beta.

[deleted] · 2017-01-06T22:49:33+00:00

~~Does NOT mean she owes you ANYTHING.~~

Does NOT mean you are owed ANYTHING.

See? femenine imperative is everywhere. Language affects thought. in the second, it's a guy and his earned value, in the second? it's a man dancing through hoops to earn pussy

Swole_is_life · 2017-01-06T18:42:58+00:00

Sex is not earned by favors, gifts, or compliments. It is commanded by attraction. Never do anything for a woman who is not already fucking you, and even then, keep your favors few and far between.

BlackJ1 · 2017-01-06T19:42:22+00:00

Once I learned that the world owes me nothing I was able to live a happier life.

Seriously, when you give, DO NOT expect anything in return. Now this may sound backwards but I can honestly say once I adopted that way of thinking I no longer feel indignation because I know people don't owe me.

The same goes for relationships which nice guys fail to understand so many times. I revert to my gaming analogy:

When I put a token in a game, the game is giving me a chance to win, to play the game(dating game). Putting in the token no matter how many times I do it doesn't give me the reward nor a win(commitment). I have to beat/win the game in order to get my reward(seduction/game/frame).

Kolbykilla · 2017-01-06T20:58:13+00:00

First step to becoming an actual man is know that you're not entitled to a damn thing. You gotta work for everything. The world, a girl, your parents, your grandma, nobody owes you shit. You'll be a better person overall if you ingrain that philosophy into your life.

TW10101 · 2017-01-06T21:25:43+00:00

Be cautious though because subs like niceguys, white knights etc just have a lot of man-hating feminist posters in them. They literally enjoy any sub that hates on men

RedditAdminsSuck_88 · 2017-01-06T19:49:00+00:00

Hollywood and the media forces the false narrative that nice guys will end up winning the girl.

If it weren't for the media you would see less men trying to win over women that way.

Brainwashing.

2comment · 2017-01-06T23:23:18+00:00

Eh, browsed it for 5 minutes before I had my fill. A lot of that sub feels like a flip side of the blue pill sub, except a focus on shaming betas, with lots of white knighting thrown in that is actually just more nice-guying/virtue signalling from the male commenters, looking to impress the m'ladies about.

I think the real don't-list lesson though is you can't buy attraction via transaction -- be it money, effort, or time -- and that throwing a hissy fit when things don't go your way accomplishes nothing except ridicule.

And the big do-list lesson is be attractive.

_PowerBull · 2017-01-06T23:39:46+00:00

They laugh at nice guys for expecting ass in return of favours, knowing full well that they're indoctrinated to be that way and they shamelessly use nice guys for a wide range of provided resources.

Once this was a completely valid strategy for mating, and still is in some cultures.

They know that the world is amoral by laughing at nice guys for being weak males, if you read between the lines you know it, but while knowing that the world is amoral they use morality as the main drive behind their attacks.

In short they want to be blatantly amoral but they want to be seen as moral and pure as women can do no wrong.

That sub is a giant hive of hamsters enabled by betas and morons.

But the most hypocritical thing is that when they get old the tables turn and they become nice women, they think that by putting out, being nice they deserve that marriage proposal. Yet they magically forget that attraction is not negotiable and the former nice guys dont owe them shit.

Ironic.

electricqueer · 2017-01-07T12:15:50+00:00

My parents owe me the years they stole from me due to abuse.

iracundiarock · 2017-01-07T06:03:59+00:00

Everything is a gift. Very very few things are truly deserved. Good post.

SeekerBeaker · 2017-01-07T15:06:08+00:00

Meh, I feel spending money on a chick entitles me to fuck her at some point down the line. If it is looking like she is not in agreement with this, I usually move on.

_PowerBull · 2017-01-07T20:04:41+00:00

Lets start a sub NiceWomen where older guys reject advances of 30+ women with the unavoidable shitstorm after the rejection posted as a screenshot.

Lets see the double standards there.

ecosci · 2017-01-08T02:20:16+00:00

Nobody owes anybody but most niceguys were told lies about women and life so cut em some slack soon it will not be a nice guy in site once divorce rates go up more and marriage rates go down.

Mike101111101010 · 2017-01-06T21:51:50+00:00

Bitches don't owe us shit. Nice guys try to be nice so they can make the girl feel bad and so the girl can then sleep with them. Thing is... this never works. You'll be her little baby brother, while she fucks Mr. Alpha.

Hahahhahahahha.

Mckallidon · 2017-01-07T00:38:41+00:00

She doesn't owe you shit if she marries you either. Doesn't owe you shit if she has your kids. Doesn't owe you shit if pay all the bills or pay her debts.

mcr00sterdota · 2017-01-07T05:51:25+00:00

That sub is great as it teaches you what NOT to do/become.

circlhat · 2017-01-06T23:49:39+00:00

fundamental RP truth:

Not a fundamental RP Truth, this is like writing a shopping guide and telling people not to steal from the store, its demeaning, strawman and straight from feminism 101

including your parents.

When a nice guy becomes fully beta, they start to say stupid shit like this, while your parents don't owe you the world, they definitely owe you things for bringing you into this world.

Live your life from an authentic place where you do things you want without expecting anything in return.

Wanting something in return doesn't mean you aren't authentic, if I work a job, I sure as hell want a pay check...

circlhat · 2017-01-06T21:33:14+00:00

False narrative learn critical thinking before you post blue pill shit , you're entitled to seek what you want. Do not assume you are starting from 0 this is stupity.

If you think women owe you ,you will rape them , what women do is reframe your feelings of being used with strawmen argument

Title	What I learned from the sub niceguys
Author	bigtuna45
Upvotes	160
Comments	96
Date	January 6, 2017 5:35 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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