What you all don't understand

mugatucrazypills · 2015-09-27T03:14:18+00:00

Pakistan has a complex history that I doubt will be fully appreciated here Hamaz (female heads of state, a military that has periodically stepped in and imposed "modernity" in the cities).

In the capital, it is my understanding there is a very cosmopolitan intellectual heritage very different than outside the cities where the mentality quickly approaches that of the stone age, with the residual blowback from the insurgencies.

The other problem is that is that all the good intentions and deep thoughts in the world don't matter much in the face of the political and social reality and mass of stupid religious people in these nations.

It's like Iran in a way (although a different flavor of Islam entirely), people in the cities will impress you with their worldliness, classical liberalism and knowledge one minute, then 5 minutes later devolve into how they'd like to see global sharia or such, or to see all their kids die in the latest quasi holy war for the state.

In the end you have 180 million people, maybe 200 by the time i finish this, there who basically will march any way the gov't, religion tells them to. You can wind them up over the Indians/Kashmir, British Colonialism, International Jews, Global Jihad, AntiAmericanism, or whatever as easy as throwing in a match on a pile of hay.

The reason is that the underlying religious structure of the society has held the country back and they have a giant chip on their shoulders. Also it's hard for the gov't to continually explain why Islam hasn't brought heaven on earth to yet another part of the world.

okhoto · 2015-09-27T09:14:49+00:00

There's a lot of Muslim hatred here.

May be there is but I feel that people have more a beef against the status of the unbeliever in Quran/Islam than against Muslim people.

Criticism is not hatred and Muslims have a hard time to understand it unfortunately, which doesn't make discussion easy.

Brian_Official · 2015-09-27T00:20:10+00:00

I think the anti-Muslim vibe is, more specifically, anti-violent & invasive imposition of foreign belief systems to overpower local culture.

see: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5128/france-no-go-zones

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

^ Where are the feminists on this?

GrandmasterHurricane · 2015-09-27T01:37:40+00:00

" I don't mind that, but females can say whatever they want, and if you say something to them, all the pussywhipped men "stand up" for her".

Reading that reminded me of this: https://youtu.be/eV-2qAYzWvE

nowoonocy · 2015-09-27T20:10:47+00:00

I am from India and can confirm its very similar here. I never approach women in public. Never know who's gonna cry rape/eve teasing and have the cops on me. In such a situation a woman's word would always be taken over mine coz women are such clean, angelic, pure creatures who deserve all the protection and the support society can give them.

Almost all the women who I am currently seeing come from extended social circle or from work (I work in Entertainment). The Blue pill effect is strong here and white knighting is applauded. So much so that I do not feel like hanging out with most people I know coz of their ridiculous world view.

I am envious of all of yous who live in Europe/NA and can approach women to their heart's content.

jace81 · 2015-09-27T00:51:59+00:00

Well you know when women get burnt alive and stoned for alleged infidelity. I'd say the government should probably intervene. These are countries that women actually do need help, problem is in the west feminists aren't interested in actual women's issues.

rallisjunkfood · 2015-09-27T02:21:15+00:00

I'll give you points for a clickbait, unhelpful title

Occams_Shiv · 2015-09-27T11:52:00+00:00

There's a lot of Muslim hatred here.

There's a lot of criticism of religion here, but that's not the same thing as muslim hatred. We just don't use nice sweet words to spare muslims feelings because it's a fucking waste of time.

All religions exist to heavily control and re-direct both men's and women's sexual energy. What is the matrix? Control. Feminism is the new sex-control religion, and as you are experiencing in Pakistan, just as in the west, it dovetails seamlessly with the old supernatural deity-based religions.

Of all the religions, islam is the most destructive to it's men. It encourages pride, anger, and a stunning lack of emotional discipline. It is so easy to get a muslim man angry it's pathetic.

A few months ago there was a similar post about Iran, detailing how badly men are treated, how pedestalized women are, and how different the gender roles are from the way they are portrayed in the western ~~media~~ propaganda. I'm too lazy to search for it, but OP should.

Whether OP believes in Allah or Mohammed or not, he should critically examine how the structure of his religion and culture conspire to manipulate him into acting against his interests. Religion has always been a system of extracting wealth from men, without the need for force, courage, or skill at arms on the part of the holy men.

bl33dingr3d · 2015-09-27T02:47:41+00:00

Why do you assume all 131,000 anonymous Redpillers "don't understand"?

Never been to Pakistan but you're not describing thermodynamics here...AWALT and feminism follows Westernization. This isn't news.

648262 · 2015-09-27T08:51:57+00:00

TRP tries to uncover details about behavior of the genders to expand the probability of the wanted sexual outcome- whatever that may be.

Our behavior is shaped by culture and biology. The biological aspect should be the same all over the world - though I'm sure some racially aware people could expand on this. For simplicity I'm sure our anecdotal TRP curriculum on gender biology can be applied everywhere.

The cultural aspect of our behavior will be quite different between Pakistan and the west. There are already differences within the different western cultures, but less than what I imagine the west and Pakistani culture to be.

Your task from now on is to adapt to the new times in your culture. There are many around here that long for the days of 1950, and though I see the beauty in it we have to adapt to now. The past will never come back.

Women will always shit test to make sure she's with the best male available. How can you become the best man available? A lot of what you need is found in the sidebar. You have to acknowledge that women have power, and you have to avoid the impact of their power in a covert way so that no one realizes what has happened.

You need to break through a lot of cultural barriers to find out these things. You're paving new road here. I find this super fascinating and I wish you the best of luck. Welcome to TRP.

AtillaTheTough · 2015-09-27T14:17:17+00:00

Stop apologizing so damn much. Don't be a door mat.

Ali_s1987 · 2015-09-27T09:12:14+00:00

Im from pak living in dubai and went for higher education to london. Trust me, We dont really need red pill in pakistani society. If a girl cant cook properly, the first thing her mom sez is "No guy will marry you" I cant relate to most of the things in this blog. I just come here because I enjoy the read. Rape statistics in muslim countries are different then the western world. We dont have drunk rape etc etc. Women get kids during divorce but if the lady marries again the husband can sue and get the kids back 90 percent of the time. We dont have to pay child support. We dont have the male suicides. Their is no game needed. Also we KNOW we will get married at the end of the day and if you or your wife cheats, ur pretty much fucked. Its funny how the TRP guys on here judge us when everything they ask for and complain about is already in Muslim societies. Our women do listen to us. If I would tell my future wife to stay at home and not work then she HAS to do it. No questions asked. A divorced man in our culture can marry again. A divorced woman probably cant.

tedcase · 2015-09-27T00:40:20+00:00

"The government gives priority women in everything."

Give me some examples, because I don't believe this for a second.

NeatMcGee · 2015-09-28T07:49:56+00:00

You can't say you find a girl good looking, without others making you feel ashamed for saying that.

Exactly, I'm of Pakistani extraction, first generation born outside South Asia. My family moved to Pakistan when I was younger (age 7), put sister and myself in an American School, in a provincial town. I would use sister to befriend interesting girls in my grade. So, she invites an attractive girl over. She comes over, I was playing soccer outside with the neighbourhood boys. Come in for lunch, and the girl and I start flirting. She runs her foot up my leg, I gave her a neck massage, and so on. She seemed to be enjoying the experience.

After she left, my mother sat me down and drew a hard line forbidding this behaviour. Saying it is disrespectful in the Pakistani culture and what nots. A few years on, we moved to America and I still had this the memories of this talk in my mind. I went through grade school ignoring girls, college getting rejected by the girls I liked and missing the girls that liked me, finally, ending up with my first girlfriend at age 24/25.

She was outside the race, which suited me fine, but didn't sit well with mother. When I introduced them, mother was extremely uncouth towards her. When I told her that this behaviour was unacceptable, mother didn't stop this.

She hasn't shown any indication that she's changed. Nine years on, she's concerned that I don't bring girls home.

tl;dr red pill or not, South Asian parents are inherently mentally abusive and don't understand how damaging they are.

fundude12 · 2015-09-27T00:56:25+00:00

I highly doubt they have feminism in Pakistan in the same way that feminism is practiced in the Western world.

I know Pakistanis in America. The women are well controlled.

yaardi · 2015-09-27T10:17:42+00:00

Lots of people here think AWALT is a thing only in the US and Western Europe and dream about the super traditional and feminine Eastern European or Asian women. Let them dream.

ChanThunderwang · 2015-09-27T15:01:35+00:00

I guess Islamic countries need both the red pill and feminism.

CattlesbyQCanine · 2015-09-28T03:08:40+00:00

Cats here think white straight men are the only ones under fire.

cavtrpr · 2015-09-29T14:07:28+00:00

Rule is anywhere in the world. AWALT and same shit different day.

Lee_H_Oswald · 2015-09-27T03:09:19+00:00

Dude, I am all for Pakistan, if there is one thing I actually admire about Islam (aside from abhorring most of it) it is the ability to control women's sexuality and and allow men to find a quality woman to enjoy their life with. Glad to have you on the sub (from the USA). P.S there is a need for a global groupthink on women, and how humanity is to go forward from this new scurge portraying men as evil for society when we build the whole bloody thing. just my two cents

nishal1 · 2015-09-27T23:12:32+00:00

Honestly the political talk recently seen throughout TRP detracts from TRP material and I wish the mods would remove/ban it.

vinegarbubblegum · 2015-09-28T13:00:18+00:00

The thing is, here, in Pakistan, the situation with women is the same. Yes, they can't divorce. But shit - the cheating, controlling, manipulating is the same. Men are pussy whipped. I'm no tin foil hat man, but I blame it all on the Media and Government.

No, you're not a tin foil hat man. Your entire suit is made from tinfoil

Really? You honestly wrote that and believe it?

Modified_Hackware · 2015-09-27T00:38:32+00:00

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moneyandsexislife · 2015-09-27T03:50:36+00:00

Priceless, yet the ISIS faithful are pouring into Europe.

Title	What you all don't understand
Author	hamzakhatieb
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Date	September 27, 2015 12:00 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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