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[–]nastynickdrRed Beret3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1) Thats a covert contract. You expect her to do something she doesnt even know you want her to do and you get butthurt when she doesnt. Read NMMNG.
2) Dont engage via text. "We´ll talk when we get home". As for not being butthurt, what you have to do is have abundance mentality, outcome independence and give zero fucks. Work on yourself, on your projects, on your MAP. If you truly believe you can replace her in a heartbeat because you are the shit, you wouldnt worry so much about that stuff. If you believe you cant, work on becoming more attractive so you can.
[–]GargantuaBlarg29 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How to be cold/dread without looking butthurt?
You are in her frame.
[–]Scurvemuch 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Did you ever consider telling her that you like those things?
Stop being a pussy. You can tell your girl that you like getting sexy messages from her.
Then you can work on not having a covert contract that she can read your fucking mind.
[–]spanishthrower points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Already told her a lot of times
[–]Scurvemuch -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
then, ummm.... why are you thinking about ONE girl?
wtf dude
I am confused here. Is it covers contract to expect that?
[–]Scurvemuch -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
no I was thinking you never told her you like those things.
again... you arent married, why are your panties in a bunch over ONE girl?
[–]ReddJiveRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
implementing trp with a lot of success in my ltr
Quit lying to yourself. It's obvious it's all going to shit because you are stuck in your own head. Your problem is you are thinking too much and not doing jack shit.
Men are disturbed not by things, but by their thoughts about them. ~Epictetus
You don't.
Dread isn't about her. It's about you becoming a better man. Leading up to the possibility that if your relationship fails your next one won't. But thats up to you.
The reason all this is happening is because you are still writing convert contracts. You believe somewhere in your head that if you act a certain way (in this case more alpha-ish) she will act a certain way. Hate to break it to you, bubba. It doesn't work like that.
For a while yes you will be faking it until you make it. It will feel that way to you. This is why the gym, outside activities, and getting the fuck out of the house more then a little bit goes a long way.
You also need to learn to laugh in the face of it all.
Right now you can't. Get out of your head and get your shit right.
[–]stonepimpletilists 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Who cares how you look?
You're working on addressing it, let her worry about how she perceives it. All you gotta do, is nip bitch behaviour in the butt:
you aren't trying to be cold, you're trying to be happy. Action follows thought. Pack a gym bad, some books, anything so you can leave the house and have fun. If you get a sexual shut down (the only reason for dread BTW) then go do those things. Leave with a smile, come back with a smile.
I don't care if you're crying inside, you leave with a smile, come back with a smile. say as little as possible (and 20% less than that).
You being cold, dour, and pissy solves nothing. don't be a faggot
[–]Mecha75-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you get a sexual shut down (the only reason for dread BTW)
So much this. I am only on Dread level 2 and even that was unnecessary. All I really had to do was step up and lead. Three days into doing my best to being the leader in my family I got a spontaneous BJ. After that, I started hitting the gym. However, everyone's situation is different. My wife was begging me to step up and lead, but I was a butthurt dumbass who was resenting the fact she stopped screwing me. And when she did (once a quarter), I was starfished or she would grumble and ask if I would just take a lousy BJ instead.
[–]2ndalRed Beret-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't think you really understand the concept of dread. Read the sidebar + prerequisites -- again if necessary.
[–]JDRoedellRed Beret-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are confusing dread with outcome independence.
[–]GongShanks-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great explanation of dread
Perhaps the best post I've read on the MRP sub..
[–]Aaren_Augustine-2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
are you mad at me?
Translation - I know you're butt hurt and it doesn't make me wet.
I try to be cold or distant.
She knows. And it isn't attractive. But you have a lot of feelings for her and your anger shows her you care more than her. Which puts you below her
It doesn't work man. I mean, she'll work just hard enough not to get fired, feed you a little pussy and go right back to the same old song and dance.
You are trying to negotiate by pouting like a child. Read No More Mr. Nice Guy and learn what a covert contract is
Read Models by Mark Manson. That will clearly list for you what women find attractive. Also the MRP sidebar.
Or continue asking around until you find an answer you want rather than become the guy she's willing to send nude pics to.
[–]redmountainpill -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
There's no parlor trick in learning this stuff. You have to develop a busy, interesting life and invite her into it. Right now, it hurts when she doesn't show affection (why you're dating a girl who isn't enthusiastically sending you nudes is beyond me, but that's another story). If you make your body strong, have an interesting career and fun hobbies you will be so full of self-validation that you won't care.
Find out what your mission is. Until you do, you and your woman will be unsatisfied
Do you think there is no point in salvaging if the attraction is low?
[–]drty_prRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm married to a woman who isnt attracted to me. I'm busier than her, own shit around the house better, more attractive and hands down a better catch. Still she isn't attracted to me.
If you would say deep down, in your heart of hearts, that she isn't attracted to you and you have other options or aren't invested by children, I'd personally say bounce.
Although you and only you can truly make this decision.
[–]WesternhagenWinner0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Maybe it's in your backposts somewhere, but what's the timeline? When did she stop being attracted to you, and how long have you been improving without any increase in attraction on her part? Is it JUST the "kid investment" that's keeping you married to a woman who isn't attracted to you?
[–]drty_prRed Beret-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
what's the timeline?
Started fully unplugging in August.
When did she stop being attracted to you
I honestly think she hasn't been attracted to me for a long fuckin time. Or at least not attracted in a very physical way. So still not attracted. Lol
how long have you been improving without any increase in attraction on her part?
The whole time
Is it JUST the "kid investment" that's keeping you married to a woman who isn't attracted to you?
To an extent yes. I owe it to myself to see if I can turn things around before I do whatever it is I do. It's by NO means oneitus. In fact I find myself hitting a point where I'm less attracted to her. You can only go to a store that's always closed so many times before you no longer want to see if they're open.
Also my comment was in no way a complaint. I'll own it all as I push further down the road.
[–]WesternhagenWinner0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Stay with it, brother! We're in much the same place. I started lifting seriously in August. No discernible increase in attraction yet, though she has noticed the new muscles.
[–]drty_prRed Beret-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She laughs at my muscle. They serve as an endless shit test
[–]redmountainpill -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What are you getting out of a long-distance relationship with a girl who doesn't like long-distance sexy stuff? I couldn't handle being monogamous in that situation
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