Addicted to prostitutes. Help please.

throwitpplaway · 2019-03-09T01:30:18+00:00

I experience this as well and we are in the same age bracket.

Honestly man, what stopped me was money otherwise I would have done it. But when I was making good $ I’d spent from $150 hr to 500hr. I’d always regret the opportunity cost of what I could have done with that money.

I read from NMMNG that part of it is due to shame of being sexual. When you are ashamed of your sexuality nice guys tend to seek prostitution, compulsive masturbation, and an array of sexual fetishes, which they always feel bad for after.

Let’s help each other. Truth of the matter is you ether go for validation (wow I look good, let me SHOW these hookers), or you feel alone (hence you mentioning your friends are sleeping).

Switch the habit. Or start going out to bars at night. Better to blow $150+ on a night out and learn a skill (game) than throw it to wet your dick with some chicks that has 0 passion for you.

Let’s PM and help each other out if you want.

thrwy75479 · 2019-03-09T02:22:07+00:00

In terms of finances, you're young, and I think you've only been doing this for 1 year, so I'm presuming you haven't blown too much money. It's possible for you to recover.

Hookers, well, you're going to be paying for sex one way or another. If you go for non-hookers, you're paying with your time. You've also felt desired after seeing that some girls are excited to meet you, which is a good boost for the ego.

always find myself getting depressed after visiting a hooker

shouldn't have to pay for sex anyways

By paying, you're avoiding wasting time, and, what's key here is that you're avoiding rejection. I may be wrong, but this may be the source of the depression.

It's difficult to look past the fact that the time you share with a hooker is a fantasy. Everything that's said, and done will always be tinged by the colour of money. Did she really mean that? Does she think I'm a loser for paying for sex? Could I get a girl like that without money?

The depression may be due to a lack of certainty. Perhaps you don't have too many friends because you're not too social, which makes it difficult to meet girls. This can sometimes happen when we lack a strong identity.

There also may be a lack of assertiveness in that your fear of rejection represses your sexual desires making it difficult for you to approach girls with the intent of having sex with them. You're afraid of bringing up sexual topics with normal girls, which could explain why you're meeting hookers, where sex is the established reason, it's front and center.

Again, this may be because if the sentiments are not returned by a girl, you'll feel rejected, which, for everyone really, is painful. One thing to realize is that when a girl rejects you, it's not you, personally, that she's really rejecting, especially if she doesn't even know you too well.

There may be a plethora of reasons behind it, from being in a bad mood that day, not liking the smell of some bad cooking nearby, to her being reminded of an ex she hates due to a scent you have, or just having had sex recently and feeling fulfilled, who knows.

I would advise that you try to find more women to talk to without any intent of sexual relations. Try to understand them. What I mean by that is to try to pick up on the covert language that they use, and the indirect ways in which they speak. Then, work on bringing up sexual topics. This can be done by discussing an erotic art piece, talking about articles of clothing, or perhaps elaborating on a sex scene in a movie. Some might like it, some might not, go with the ones that do.

This can lead to sharing sexual thoughts with each other, and perhaps soon after becoming comfortable being open about your own sexuality with girls. Essentially, being a guy, and making sure the girls know you're horny for them.

robatusf · 2019-03-09T01:49:27+00:00

Men always pay for sex. Not necessarily directly in cash, but we do always pay...

anonymouz333 · 2019-03-09T01:16:31+00:00

If you pay for the pussy, she isn't a plate.

lt050286 · 2019-03-09T02:53:44+00:00

Robert Kraft, would advise against this. Lol

Startlivingfornow · 2019-03-09T01:31:42+00:00

Personally, I see nothing wrong with this unless it’s affecting you financially or messing up your ability to see other women.

At some of the busiest periods of my life, I would have gone insane without the helpful hand of an escort. When time is on your side and you can invest in approaching and dating then by all means avoid escorts.

Identify whether or not you’re using this as a crutch and if so, figure out why and work on it.

redvelvet_oreo · 2019-03-09T05:18:49+00:00

My only advice is start by seeing a chick once a month. Make it a reward system. If you accomplished something go have some fun. Eventually you wont even care to do it anymore maybe on occasion. You should go back to gaming women and find a consistent plate so you don't have to worry about this.

I have seen 100s of escorts. i started when I was younger and it was a crutch. As I got older and more successful and better with women I tuned it down to just here and there. There are times I did not see any escorts for a year plus. I use hired guns as a tool now really. If im busy with work, studying for a certification and my mind is just to out of the game to go find girls to chase I go for a hired gun. For me personally the cost benefit for me is time. i dont have to waste time gaming a girl or what not but I still game women when I can and I am in the right frame of mind. Again it should be a tool to use when you need it or reward once in a while.

I have turned a few escorts into plates as well. It not an impossible thing to do. TRP does work everywhere. One was a famous pornstar.

embracingtheredpill · 2019-03-09T09:26:21+00:00

Objectifying women, paying for sex, visiting brothels etc aren't the problem. There has been a long tradition in the manosphere of gaming girls known for their "beauty value", the women who other people pay to be around for their beauty. Similar to you converting them into plates. Where do you think Dark Triad game was born hahaha

Your real problem are your emotions, and the feeling that you're wasting your time and money. The reality is, you like the attention and you like the sex. It's easy. It's fun. It makes you feel good. You're 21 rn. You've investing so much time and money in prostitutes. Let me ask you this. Will you continue to do this when you're 41? Possibly not. Perhaps you want a wife by then and some kids. Maybe you don't. My point is, you have a long long long life, another let's say 60 years atleast. You're cutting down at that time however. You only get one life and one body. You're gambling away your health, your reputation and your money to get invested in women who can never give you back anything meaningless.

It's good to have sex. Firstly, take stock of your emotions. Reduce going to the brother more and more. Like, only once a week, or once in two, then once a month, so on. Find hobbies to occupy your weekends, there will be many weekend opportunities. Go on trips. Instead of giving that money to women, go expand your horizons, meet new people, and hey if you're so attractive, go pull women irl. I don't think you're that attractive, because being a pussy who thinks he's attractive off the attentions of a whore but who's too scared to game women-that's not attractive.

[deleted] · 2019-03-09T10:25:01+00:00

That sounds like me. Im a 24 years old Engineering Student. My body and style is in top 10%. Im from germany where Hookers are super cheap and extremely good looking. I see hookers two times a week which costs me 300 euros a month. I'm still going on dates and have plates but I find them less and less interesting to the point where I'm thinking I should go MGTOW lol. I only go on dates with interesting girls but I'm still bored by them a lot of times and I noticed that I really dont care for them.

If you have no moral issues fucking your plates than I cant see a problem with fucking hookers. Its literally the same thing. For your dates you pay with your time and a little amount of money and for the hookers a lot of money but non of your time.

I think your problem is that you noticed that getting pussy is not that big of a deal and now youre sad because you feel like you've been lied to. You think about spending more money on travelling and cars and a house and what not but you didn't realise that its basically the same hedonistic trap.

Project_Zero_Betas · 2019-03-09T01:35:52+00:00

Google images of Herpes. If that doesn't break your addiction, nothing will.

CokeRockOnYourClit · 2019-03-09T01:35:25+00:00

The easiest way to stop wanting to waste money on pussy is to get a steady supply of free pussy. You said you turned some of them into "plates". If that's the case, why are you paying?

TRP8myfeels · 2019-03-09T01:36:22+00:00

Stop going.

throwawaybjj44 · 2019-03-09T01:37:04+00:00

fml. I can't get coochie and prostitution isn't legal here

masterpiece00 · 2019-03-09T01:57:12+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N1ErjX4oZo

DubbleFUPAwitCheez · 2019-03-09T06:36:40+00:00

If you crunch the numbers it might end up in your favor. Anyway, this is something I've warned about to guys asking about this type of thing. Getting pussy easy, is addicting. I was probably slightly addicted to tinder when it came out cause I was slaying gash every weekend. It is a crutch.

The best advice is try your best to find another outlet. You're not a partier or whatever, fine but surely you don't work 7 days a week right? Wean yourself off. There must be late night places around your area. If not you can go to the titty clubs and hit on the dancers and try to get one of them. It'll be frustrating and during that time I'd advocate still hitting the hookers when needed but if you want to kick this you need to change what you do and losing easy puss is going to be rough if you don't have access to any women, which is my point.

Well_hung_Yakuza · 2019-03-09T09:35:23+00:00

I am guilty of this too, about ten years ago when I was only 15 or 16. I wanted to lose my virginity, so I did it once and then a couple of times. Needless to say it was a waste of money, time and effort that could have been channeled into something less pathetic and more productive. Real sex is just so different from this shit. You seem like you have no hobbies, otherwise you wouldn't get bored so easily, so get some hobbies, bonus points for sports ones. Do weekend trips to nearby places, maybe even take a date or a friend at some point. Mate, you only live once and for me, I forgot about these hooker experiences just a week or two in as they were indeed so forgettable.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-03-09T10:52:01+00:00

If you're doing it, and feeling regret afterwards, so essentially using them against your better judgement, or against your will, that can be a form of addiction. Normally we can do something, and say 'that wasn't the best judgement' and not do it in future. When we can't stop, even though we regret it, that can be an addiction.

This is just my opinion, but you want to get out of that shit, ASAP. Since this sub is about Red Pill, it goes against many Red Pill principles. We're not about needing to spend our hard earned money for sex. We're about developing ourselves and our game, so we create more real life options.

Go create some options, and find women who will come fill in that time for you, free of charge.

someonesopinion6969 · 2019-03-09T14:14:56+00:00

You're putting pussy on the pedelstal already. stop paying for sex if you really are that 'attractive' bear in mind you pay for pussy regardless with time or money.

alphabachelor · 2019-03-09T15:14:52+00:00

Cut down on the hookers and pour the cash into the stock market and a side business or hustle.

Future 40 old year you will thank you.

nuba231 · 2019-03-09T20:42:50+00:00

Hi man,

My story is very similar to yours.

I was never the party type but I had a really healthy sex drive and started watching porn when I was 11. Been masturbating 1-5 times a day consistently since then. I was into video games and always stayed at home, was a virgin until I was 21. Real sex felt real good. I started visiting escort review forums and thought everyone there was a disgusting loser. But I couldn't get women in real life because I was skinny and had no social skills because I spent all my time in my mom's basement. And yet my sex drive was very strong.

Eventually I tried it. Went to an Asian Massage Parlour and had the mamasan fuck me. It felt amazing. Her pussy was like magic. I was in university so I didn't have much money back then so I rarely went and just stuck to porn. Then I started getting into IT and had made lots of money. More than I knew what to do with. So I started seeing escorts. All flavours. It was a fresh dopamine rush. You never knew what kind of delicious dopamine-releasing goodness would be expecting you as you knocked on the door and anticipating fucking her. Or her fucking you. It was blissful.

I didn't talk to any women or had many a lot of friends. I just worked and fucked prostitutes. My friends were out experimenting with women, learning to succeed with them through failure, learning to cohabitate with them. Eventually they started getting married, having kids.

I started having other problems. I had been watching so much porn and seeing the hottest escorts in my city unrealistically raised my standards to the the point where I wouldn't able to get hard with any normal "girl next door" types that I used to like before. I noticed that regular women were not attractive to me. I was a skinny average looking guy. Maybe a 5 on the looks scale. I had no chance fucking 8's or 9's in real life. And that gave me a false sense of comfort. It was too scary to leave that warm little cave of being able to fuck the hottest girl you wanted. I had become friends and dated many of them. I had done all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify what I was doing -- that there really are hookers with hearts of gold and they could love me. But it was all an illusion. It was an illusion that I created and wasn't able to break free from for a very long time.

I started to want an emotional connection. I had tried dating them because I wasn't attracted to normal women and felt prostitutes were my best choice. I was very liberal in my views and part of my mental gymnastics were that these people were victims of circumstance and "her body her rules." Here is what I learned from my experience.

Prostitutes are absolutely broken people. It's interesting that the ecosystem filters for the shittiest values that you would never want to have in a partner.

First, there's the emotionless sex with hundreds or thousands of men. There is no way that you, especially as a woman, who is biologically designed to have few sexual partners, can get out of prostitution unscathed. Sex is a very emotional act for a woman. She has no chance of pair-bonding with anyone after she's been through hundreds of miles of dick.

Second, most (imo 90% at least) of these women have trauma from childhood that predisposes them to this sort of thing. Bad relationships with fathers, mothers, childhood rape/beatings, drugs, that sort of thing.

Third, they're addicts. Maybe not to drugs. But when you go from working at Starbucks to making 10 grand a month, it changes your perspective on things and any addiction you could have had is amplified because no you are able to afford anything you want. Some girls fuck 10 guys a day if they want to feed their addictions, whether it's clothes, designer handbags, vacations, drugs.

Fourth, take all these things and add the fact that those that want to to stay in the business have to make the customers come back. This filters for the best manipulators. Those that are best at selling you what you want it to be. The shapeshifters. She can be your whore if you have a nice wife at home. She can your wife if you have whores already. The girls at the top level are very, VERY good at this.

It's the perfect storm for the shittiest, most low-value partner you could get if you ever get hitched to one.

Read my first post from 3 years ago. I met a BPD hooker that that was able to provide me with an instantaneous emotional connection. She was really good at it because she had practiced this sort of manipulation on men since childhood.

I did end up dating her. I even moved in with her and I broke up with her a month later. It was the best experience of my life because it really made me question why I would ever subject myself to that sort of thing. I went to a psychiatrist for 2 years for talk therapy and it really made me stronger.

I recognized that I myself am an addict to sex. Everything yourbrainonporn .com is saying is true. The fetishes I developed as a result of porn and prostitutes are never going away and I am at risk of relapse if I start doing it again. I can choose to engage in destructive behaviour and masturbate and see hookers or I can lead a porn-free, prostitute-free life.

I think you should get out of all this and practice healthy habits. It's very easy to lull yourself into this lifestyle into thinking everything is okay. But it's very addictive and years can pass by before you even recognize how much you've changed.

Enlightened_Chimp · 2019-03-09T02:05:07+00:00

Sounds like you're a sex addict. Unfortunately no one can help you but yourself. You have to really want to fix your behaviors.

Honestly, I'd advise taking a break from sex completely and focus on yourself for a while (career, gym, hobbies, social life, goals...). After you're in a good spot mentally, just start dating and meeting regular women to have sex with, not hookers. If you can't take a break for a while and focus on yourself then you're clearly addicted and may want to try some form of therapy.

Whisper · 2019-03-09T03:15:21+00:00

I don't understand what the problem is.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2019-03-09T03:33:13+00:00

Masturbate instead. Yeah sure, it's not quite the same, but short term it redirects that compulsive energy.

Then start spinning plates.

BigJohnnyCockRamPHD · 2019-03-09T17:04:44+00:00

Hahahahaha. You’re a fucking loser. Either stop or continue to be a fucking loser. Only losers pay for sex... ( cue the fake alpha parade of “ you pay em to leave... you pay somehow for even if it’s not money... CEO’s and powerful alphas pay for sex all the time”) guess what you’re a fucking loser. Me and everyone I know slay too shelf Pussy and we don’t pay. Only exceptions that don’t make you a loser - if you’re in a third world country like Colombia where it’s dirt cheap for exquisite pussy and you won’t be able to pull your normal ratio because of logistical or language barriers- if you already slay top shelf and occasionally get sucked in at a strip club or something and end up paying- if you’re in the top tier of society already and have access to the underground network of models that fuck for money and you have so much disposable income that sometimes it just makes more sense to pay since you’re fucking the hottest chicks on earth as a result. Other than that you’re a loser if you pay for pussy. I really live this life so whatever retorts you internet faux alpha nerds wanna throw at me I’m not hearing because I really live this life and I really knock down chicks that you only dream of.

Title	Addicted to prostitutes. Help please.
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Date	March 9, 2019 1:10 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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