Are LTRs actually possible?

TRPCops · 2020-01-30T14:31:54+00:00

Bitch management guide is in the sidebar of TRP under Reference. Read it. You're operating from scarcity mentality where you think some higher order dancing monkey routine keeps a girl's interest, rather than you making the rules and swiftly punishing or replacing her if she fails to adhere.

CainPrice · 2020-01-30T15:53:28+00:00

Can a relationship last 10 years and still remain sexual? Sure. Happens all the time. So do dead-bedroom relationships. So does cheating. So do relationships that end.

The question you want to ask isn't "Is it possible", because obviously, anything's possible.

What you want to ask is how to make it happen for you. But that's also the wrong question. Because all women are women. There is nothing you can do - no magical set of traits you can vet for - that will yield a woman who is not a woman. And there is no magical Red Pill way you can behave - no set of traits and behaviors you can cultivate - that will make women treat you well forever, never leave or cheat, and have constant sex with you. You might get lucky, but stressing out over picking this imaginary perfect woman and behaving this imaginary perfect Red Pill way is just going to make you stressed and not actually get you that never-ending magical relationship.

A better question might be why is it possible sometimes. For that, you need to understand women.

Women act in their best perceived interest. Not always their actual best interest, but what they feel like their best interest is in the moment.

If a woman feels like you are currently her best possible option, she will love the shit out of you and act right. If a woman does not, she will treat you badly, cheat on you, leave you, or some combination of those three things.

It doesn't matter whether you are actually her best possible option, just how she feels, or whether she actually has a chance with another guy or just thinks she does, or whether that other guy is actually better or she just feels like he is. Her feelings rule the day. If she feels like you're the best, she'll act like it. If she feels otherwise, she'll act badly.

You might get lucky, you might not. But this idea that there's some magical formula where you can find the right woman who isn't going to act like a woman, and there's this special way you can behave so she'll love you forever and always act right? That's not a thing. Guys would like to believe that's a thing and that The Red Pill is some magical formula for a happy life filled with love, sex, and respect. But it's really not.

A woman will stay with you if, in her perception, you are her best option. The longer things go on, the more you let yourself go and act like a loser, and the more opportunities she has with other guys she perceives as better, the more likely things end. But things also end for reasons beyond your control, just based on her feeling like she has a shot with a guy she feels might be better, or just based on her feeling like you suck even when you don't. Or just due to her getting bored and comfortable over time.

One thing that never, ever happens is a woman loving you for who you are, clicking with you, and staying with you out of love forever and ever while you just be yourself and she shrugs off and ignores all other men.

HumanSockPuppet · 2020-01-30T15:36:51+00:00

LTRs are absolutely possible.

Most of the ECs are involved in LTRs with women they have personally trained. In the case of /u/Whisper and myself, we are involved in two LTRs in addition to spinning plates on the side.

The keys to sustaining this are:

To take an active role in training your woman, so that she associates happiness with your direct intervention.
To constantly be improving yourself, so that you are always her superior.

See my Guides to Training Bitches and Managing Bitches for more information on how to begin this process.

The1ndex · 2020-01-30T15:07:18+00:00

Yes it’s possible.

Most people stop evolving and growing around 30. It’s your responsibility as a man to continuously develop yourself throughout your life. It’s your responsibility to lead the relationship for the entire relationship.

If your woman is out of line, it’s a reflection of yourself. You’ve either selected a bad one, or failed to lead her. Either way, you failed. Stop blaming woman for doing their natural woman things. Improve yourself.

555654t456555 · 2020-01-30T15:04:53+00:00

Practice the principles of married red Pill in any LTR or marriage, you’ll be fine. Beware though - LTR/marriage is Red Pill on hard mode.

MarkJohnPaul · 2020-01-30T16:10:22+00:00

Gotta pimp your girls mind man. The game never ends.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2020-01-30T18:21:11+00:00

The key question is, is it desirable?

navydad74 · 2020-01-30T15:33:05+00:00

Marriage constantly evolves. If it doesn't it will get a bit stale..the girl I married 20 years ago isn't remotely close to the woman I'm married to today.. the same can be said for me. There's a constant evolution. She married a boy. Boy eventually becomes a man. If you're not a better version of yourself after 10 years that's something that you need to work on. After 20 years if you're still a boy you will not have a wife much longer. If you're worried about your wife finding other men attractive and exploring other options you're not doing something right. My wife and I have sex every night. The level of intimacy has increased every year over the years and I can honestly say right now I'm married to my best friend. There's lots of levels to this.. you have to continue to take care of yourself, always working on self-improvement, physically, mentally and spiritually. If you're not always trying to be the best version of yourself and motivating her to do the same you can end up finding yourself alone.

RedSkeller · 2020-01-30T16:00:17+00:00

You never completely satisfy a woman, you essentially become her new dad and continue to raise her, discipline and all.

Thefreeman911 · 2020-01-30T17:50:54+00:00

My parents are a rare case.

They met at age 14 and had three kids by 18 (oops). They had a "Romeo and Juliet" love story (City boy and country girl) and would do anything to see each other. Instead of being trash my father worked two jobs and eventually starting as a groundskeeper, became the building manager of the 300ft giant.

Parents are still high school sweethearts at age 42. Still madly in love and apparently have sex three times a week since they first met, both parties confirmed this.

Like I said RARE case and who knows what could happen in the next 40 years.

StoneHurk · 2020-01-31T00:09:55+00:00

Depends on level of AWALT/self-awareness the woman has. I've known women who know they want Chad and will show obvious signs of interest/flirting, but they won't go as far as cheating on their betabux boyfriend because they don't wanna risk losing the benefits. In order to get this woman to cheat and leave her betabux, Chad has to literally propose and buy her a house or some shit because she knows 99.9% of the time Chad is gonna pump and dump. Some are smart enough to realize that Chad won't wife them up so cheating with Chad is pointless and just shooting themselves with the foot.

But they'll still try to flirt and try to entice Chad to make a move on them cuz they have zero respect or consideration for their betabux bf. Also they're attention whores and they crave that feeling of being wanted by the Chad but they'll reject Chad in the end so they pull the virtue signalling bullshit and say "Chad flirted with me but I didn't cheat I'm such a good person" which is total horseshit considering they're the ones who made the initial move.

I've seen chicks with beta BFs escalate flirting all the way to the point of "almost cheating" but didn't technically "cheat" so they can tell people that they're such good girls for resisting the temptation to cheat. Absolute batshit insane and retarded logic in my opinion but I'm not a hamster.

PumConqueror · 2020-01-31T23:23:28+00:00

First of all, vet your girls carefully. DO NOT compromise on any red flags.

Second, make sure your LTR is set up so that dread is constant and automatic. This is best done by getting into an LTR that is only open on your side.

Third, practice control game. See HumanSockPuppet's guides on this.

Fourth, set boundaries and enforce them RUTHLESSLY. NEVER let the pussy control you. Compromise over no boundary.

Fifth, continue improving yourself so that your SMV remains ahead a good amount ahead of hers.

Lastly, fuck her good.

tonivevo · 2020-01-30T14:52:59+00:00

My aunt and my uncle are together for 32 years now and they are in their 50s. They come from a Christian background but he has a strong frame and an amazing work ethic.

priapula · 2020-01-30T17:52:33+00:00

Yes. Dont be disillusioned by reading too much trp

Sobinia · 2020-01-30T19:28:57+00:00

LTR's are possible, but they recquire two high-quality people to find each other and be committed to taking care of it.

badabing654 · 2020-01-30T21:00:18+00:00

No. The bitch can't even decide what to eat, you think she can make grown up decisions like that

MisterRoid · 2020-01-31T01:11:43+00:00

Why would you not want her to have an own social life? Sounds frustrating to always be with the girl. If she wants to cheat on you she will find a way anyways. Guys on TRP seem to be so scared of their ego getting hurt. Just title your future thread "plate had sex with another guy" rather than "LTR cheated on me" if you are so scared your imaginary friends at TRP won't think you are a hardcore alpha male - problem solved.

2020-01-31T02:44:53+00:00

My parents have managed to do it for 24 years, and they are still very happy together. I think Rollo Tomassi says it best - you need mutual trust and mutual respect. My parents never, EVER do anything behind each other’s backs. No secret vacations, no hidden bank accounts, no side chicks/dudes- none of that. It’s all about trust and respect. Communication is a big one too. But at the end of the day, you need to have similar values, which my parents share. The reason LTR’s are difficult nowadays is because people (and the whole world in general) are becoming crazier, in my honest opinion. No one has values anymore, let alone GOOD values. You also need to also have a proper understanding of gender roles. My dad ran the family business, and my mother quit her job to raise my sister and me. My mom isn’t about that feminist bullshit. To answer the question, there is no reason why two reasonable, rational adults can’t successfully cohabitate with one another on a long-term basis. The real problem comes with “rational” and “reasonable” - which is becoming harder and harder to find nowadays, for both men and women.

RStonePT · 2020-02-01T00:08:59+00:00

Yes, (11 years now)

SeasonedRP · 2020-01-30T15:31:57+00:00

-Is it even possible to constantly inspire tingles in a woman, day after day, year after year to the point where [scenario listed above] doesn't happen?

No, it's not possible. After a period of time in a relationship, the woman gets bored and attraction drops. She wants something different. Not necessarily higher SMV, just someone that isn't you. That doesn't mean they will all act on this feeling, but attraction drops given enough time no matter what you do. That's why all this "captain" and "hard mode" stuff is BS and doesn't actually work.

Title	Are LTRs actually possible?
Author	BusyCupcake
Upvotes	25
Comments	43
Date	January 30, 2020 2:29 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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