If game is more important than looks, why do we talk about lifting first thing?

VasiliyZaitzev · 2019-07-17T18:48:13+00:00

Because it’s the easiest thing to fix. Anyone can lift. Learning game is a more subtle art.

Kobinks · 2019-07-17T16:46:38+00:00

Looks are more important than game as long as you’re not autistic

The people that claim game is more important want to believe that lie because they know deep down they’re not attractive and never will be.

People commonly cite either a few PUA’s or that one guy they know that’s a slob who gets laid.

The problem is we’re discussing outliers like they’re the norm, someone who has absolutely no game but is ridiculously good looking can fuck with no effort whatsoever.

Take the examples of fake experiments people did on tinder that have been knocking around. The guy that posted a 10/10 and told everyone he was a pedophile or the other guy that claimed to be a full blown neo nazi.

Hundreds of girls wanted to bang then instantly. As far as I’m concerned telling someone you’re literally a convicted pedophile in the first few messages constitutes literally the worst anti game in the world but it works because of... Looks.

I consider myself to have pretty poor game, I’m just 6ft 3, have abs and a really nice face.

It does not matter what I say to girls at all, they’re willing to fuck me purely based on my looks.

I can be a complete and utter dick and insult them and I’ll still get laid, I’d honestly focus on upping your SMV as much as possible.

RedPill-BlackLotus · 2019-07-17T16:07:54+00:00

If you cant see the other benefits to lifting the you have a problem with perception and you need to work on that first.

You dont even get to play the game if you cant make them aroused by your presence.

genital-love · 2019-07-17T17:11:46+00:00

inner game. lifting weights has so many benefits, the gym is the easiest way to start being better.

CasualtyOfHedonism · 2019-07-17T18:47:04+00:00

Looks+status > game

If you’re fucking ugly and low status no amount of game is going to help you. That’s just to sell books to lazy mother fuckers.

TheRedPillMonkey · 2019-07-17T19:35:21+00:00

Do you play video games? Do you know how in RPG's, characters have stats? You know, speed, agility, potion, charisma, magic, etc?

In TRP, we call this SMV. Game and looks are two different smv stats, as are status and success among others. These all combine to give you an overall smv.

So if you max out any one, things get easy. Max out looks, you'll knee deep in pussy. Max out game, same. Max out status or success, well lots of fat ugly billionaires surrounded by 10's on their yacht, aren't there?

Thing is, very few max out one, and a combination of multiple can raise your smv even more. High marks or maxed on multiple help even further. The gym rat self-made billionaires are getting more than the fat ones.

So if you have good game, hit the gym and diet, and focus on your mission to get that success, you'll be much better off than one thing alone.

We also say 'lift' not only because it's an easy thing anyone can do and is in your complete control, but also because it's proven to help with confidence and overall mental wellbeing.

Jaszen3 · 2019-07-17T16:59:41+00:00

Games nowadays have modes. Guys who do the work and lift and have great physiques get to play the game on easy mode. Fat lazy guys play game on hard mode.

You dont have to be a handsome man. Thats just looks and is subject. A guy who is strong from lifting and has reaped those benefits is objective and measurable.

Edit: spelling

Rifleshoot · 2019-07-17T17:15:36+00:00

It's less about looks and more about achievement. Also, testosterone. Lifting builds muscle, which makes you feel powerful. It also boosts testosterone for the same effect. If you feel powerful, you will act powerful. Women like that attitude. They want a man that is confident and powerful. RP isn't about faking confidence, it's about becoming confident. For most men, getting jacked will swell their ego, and fix most of their female related trouble. For those that still have issues with confidence even after getting in shape, you have game. It's a fake it til you make it mindset. You fake confidence with game until that attitude becomes real and the underlying insecurity is gone. I'm a fatty myself right now and have always had confidence issues because of it. I've lost 50 pounds so far and its definitely helping. But something that stands out to me is that I had other friends that were even fatter and objectively less attractive than I was. But they were still getting women, whereas I was not (at the time). The difference was that they were irrationally confident and I was not.

To summarize, lifting is something that will lead to real confidence for most men, game is a way to project confidence.

Bedtimeshine · 2019-07-17T19:08:08+00:00

Because game is not more important than looks.

LeatherBoundWisdom · 2019-07-17T16:35:08+00:00

Lifting gives you game

Brushyourteethm8 · 2019-07-17T20:21:23+00:00

Lifting isn't just about looks.

It's the inner strength, self control, rise in testosterone and confidence that comes with it.

The positive mental impacts are just as huge as the physical.

It's all about improving you, attracting women is just a by product

HurricaneHugues · 2019-07-17T22:25:22+00:00

Lifting is not just for sexual attractiveness. It's for your testosterone production and the development of a more masculine mental frame. You also get more respect from strangers wherever you go, and motherfuckers are least likely to test you. There's also the fact that if you look good enough, all you have to do is not talk too much and you will get laid. Game is necessary for long term situations and approaching sone chicks. But there are instances where you can just play the strong and silent type and get chicks.

But before anything, remember that you lift for you . So that you develop discipline, pride in yourself, understand the meaning of hard work, and develop self respect. Lifting is more mental than physical.

bigboxguy · 2019-07-17T23:25:17+00:00

Looks are way more important than game

[deleted] · 2019-07-18T02:08:04+00:00

Fix the body --> Fix the mind --> Acquire agency

By building a pleasant looking and strong aesthetic, you build the confidence, drive, tenacity and grit necessary to be mentally strong. By being strong both physically and mentally, you put yourself in a position to not just find your mission but to also pursue it to its highest ceiling with success.

By doing the above, you naturally lead a life that is both enriching and joyful. This is attractive to women.

Never pursue the woman, that is the antithesis of being a powerful and attractive male.

redpilllogin · 2019-07-18T03:28:05+00:00

Air is more important than food but you still need to eat and drink water and sleep, etc.

capodonca · 2019-07-17T18:10:05+00:00

I'm 9 months into lifting, i'll tell you why it's important imo.

It's like the foundation of your being, it helps you to make decisions, you look better so you think better of yourself and you have confidence talking to people. If something goes wrong in your life you know you're at least progressing in the gym.

It becomes a positive feedback loop in your life, you put some effort and you get results.

Empodocles · 2019-07-17T21:29:03+00:00

It's not just about the looks. A lot of males have a fucked up reward system from constantly giving into instant gratifications.

Lifting gives you a reward over the long term when you start to see results and realize it's because of your hard work you put in.

Cleaning up your diet and getting rid of all the shit you're eating with tons of sugar will probably follow and then off you go into the realm of compound effects.

Going to the gym is relatively easy and accessable, so it's the perfect helping held to achieve other bigger goals

Kalepsis · 2019-07-17T23:45:27+00:00

Looks aren't the only result of lifting. It also develops your self discipline.

BuzzLightGear321 · 2019-07-18T04:55:11+00:00

You literally have a post called "I'm a Loser", ya you have a incel mindset. Go get mental help from a therapist. Both are important, you should work on both.

FinancialThanks1 · 2019-07-17T16:42:02+00:00

Because this isn’t a pickup subreddit

RStonePT · 2019-07-17T19:03:56+00:00

Because it's the simplest, easiest, and shortest way to see if a guy is worth a damn to talk about anything further.

We could always go with 'brush your teeth every day' but at that point it's a bit too on the nose

chazthundergut · 2019-07-17T21:18:35+00:00

Lift and you will find out

Title	If game is more important than looks, why do we talk about lifting first thing?
Author	sAr1h4k
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Date	July 17, 2019 4:04 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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