On Cheating

4nt43us · 2017-05-12T13:07:17+00:00

No-one on TRP recommends deliberately cheating. Planning out and deliberately cheating on someone is kinda fucked up if you are intending on staying with them forever and marrying them.

Either break up and fuck other women (which is what I would do) or stay with her and be faithful to your potential future wife. As is my standard answer to questions like this, if you have to ask the question you already know the answer.

quicklogaccount · 2017-05-12T13:13:47+00:00

I don't see it ending anywhere in the near future because she only displays green flags.

Why is it that so many folks make this mistake you're making? I made it too.
Just because she's green flag it doesn't mean you should LTR her. There is a COST for being in a LTR. A red flag whore is definitely not LTR material, but just because a chick IS LTR material (which doesn't mean equals "hot and not a whore", it requires shit your girl probably lacks) it doesn't mean you SHOULD be in a LTR with her.
LTRs are inherently anguishing because you're hardwired to be polygamous and you're forfeiting it. Forfeiting shit you're hardwired to do is always anguishing. For a girl to be LTR worthy, she doesn't only need to be green flags. She needs that, and to offer something that's worth that angst. And man, that's fucking huge. Most men just LTR chicks because of scarcity.

I got amazed by this behavior we have recently. We're rational, we go to a store, we see something really nice. It's expensive but we KNOW it's worth the price. Before we buy it we think if we NEED it. If we don't need, we wonder if we WANT it, and if it's just about wanting but not needing, we want a better cost effectiveness and we become more severe with its opportunity cost. We're rational with money all the time.
Now, enter a girl. The man that's utterly rational about the money goes IRRATIONAL with his devotion and gigantic time investment, and it's worth a lot. Guys LTR shitty women. The ones that can spot and grow beyond that think they NEED to LTR a girl that's not shitty without ever considering if they NEED or WANT it.

Well, do you WANT to be in a LTR? It seems not. Green flag women are not majority but not rare, you'll bump into a few. Your girlfriend isn't a unicorn.

is it worth cheating on her just so I can experience sex with someone else?

Cheating is highly damaging to one's good name. PROVIDED that you can do it without getting caught (it's not hard to do it smartly), usually your morals will screw you and cause you to give yourself up. You'll feel guilty.
If you can handle the logistics and guilty, it's a matter of decision. If you can't (and being in the spot you are, talking about your girl the way you're talking, and being as inexperienced as you are, you can't), you're better off breaking up. Do it civilly and you create a good chance to get her back later. This means, don't tell her WHY. Lie.

Or am I not missing out much?

Sorry to tell you. You're missing out more than you can fathom now. Behaving in a fashion that's aligned with your biology gives a sense of freedom and why not, empowerment, I can't really describe. It'd require poetry, building of significance through language, without actually being able to access your previous experiences. Let me try: It's an orgasm you have with your sense of well being and self worth, not just with your cock.
And it's a lot like orgasms with the cock. You get used quickly, soon it becomes no big deal and you start looking elsewhere, unless you get addicted in which case it becomes harmful.

I LTRd the second chick I banged. At points I could speak as fondly of her as you speak of your girl but for the most part I was rationalizing her being bitchy, I'm biased to think you are too.
I only managed to break up because she was a bit of a psycho (she undermined my sense of self worth at a point, I broke to pieces and rebuilt myself not loving her) but DAMN, I could not have been more wrong to wait. It became more damaging to her and I wasted too much time.

Surfincloud9 · 2017-05-12T14:53:01+00:00

You promised her exclusivity right? Then don't cheat. It's not good for the soul. Be a good person and an even better man. Dump her if you want to fuck other women. If you love her, respect her and don't cheat.

[deleted] · 2017-05-12T12:56:26+00:00

I know TRP doesn't hare much to do with morals - but hear me out.

This isn't a moral dilemma.

bberen1 · 2017-05-12T15:42:35+00:00

You would hate it if she cheated on your right? What makes you think makes it okay for you to cheat on her if you are in an exclusive relationship?

Either break up with her and explore, or stay faithful and cherish her.

Andorli · 2017-05-12T19:12:21+00:00

Here is how I have set up my LTR. Since the beginning I warned her that I am still young (25) and I do not plan settling just for one person just yet. So she can be with me and be my number one but occasionally I will be with other girls, however I will never prioritize them over her or rub it in her face. If you accept this stay with me if not well then I will just move on. She accepted it and we are together for over a year now. I admit that the line between me just having sex or cheating gets blurry sometimes but the point is be completaly honest with your partner and yourself. If you want to fuck other women, well then you are not ready for marriage and monogamous LTR yet. Be honest with yourself and then with your partner always, period.

TheDisillusionist · 2017-05-12T20:55:39+00:00

If you are going to do some shit like cheating it ought to be in service to goals or wants you actually chose. Not some shit you are told you should want.

In your estimation would it improve your life or not?

Sl0wRideTakeItEasy · 2017-05-13T01:48:45+00:00

If she is truly nothing but green flags, and you are truly the living incarnation of Chad Thundercock, then she's just fine for LTR. If you are truly awesome, she will open the door for strange pussy to be included in the somewhat near future just for variety.

But this is the 100-1 shot. So keep that in mind.

Is it worth cheating on her just for new pussy- no not by itself. Pussy is similar the world over. If there are things she won't do, yes go find strange that will. If she is DTF with nothing off limits, then new pussy is statistically different but not necessarily any better than known pussy that does anything you want.

TheBadGod · 2017-05-13T02:59:05+00:00

If she's really down with you, then you're next step is the three-way.

IVIaskerade · 2017-05-12T21:20:23+00:00

Cheating is never worth it, because of all the issues it causes, both for you and the other involved parties.

If you want to have sex with other people, you should be up-front about this. It's her decision to leave or stay, but have no illusions - she'll probably leave and that's her right.

saladon · 2017-05-13T09:09:30+00:00

It is fucking hard to practice abundance mentality when you voluntarily drop all of the plates that provide it for you in the first place. A woman can go to a bar any given night and have two dozen high-value men staring at her bare ass. A man can't do the same without dumpster diving. It would take a ton more time and resources to build that back up.

Women practice extreme hypergamy without feeling an ounce of guilt over it. The only girls I've seen secure enough to not be actively fucking around every night were those that had enough of a catalog of orbiters on the back-burner so that part of her ego would always be protected.

What's making redpilled men feel so guilty about cheating on their girls? If you choose to play a game where all the champs are taking PEDs with zero consequences, you won't get far on your moral high ground alone, unless you were born a natural chad thundercock(s).

SirAttackHelicopter · 2017-05-12T16:57:13+00:00

Personal integrity. That is all that matters because it will show in your personality, and it's something you can't just mask. It is obvious to pick out these types of people because their first inclination is to double-think their answers or actions due to a hidden motive. This not only annoys people, but it is a bad trait to have as a man. If you want a life of non-committed relationships, let it be known to your gf that she is NOT in a fully committed relationship. Boys need to get it out of their beta mindset that they need to lie to girls to get sex. Cheating implies you are lying. The simple solution is to not lie and be confident and own your shit.

Girls dig brutal honesty over indecision. Girls dig confidence of purpose and surety of self image over aloofness and passiveness.

TryhardPantiesON · 2017-05-12T15:21:25+00:00

I am happy for seeing TRP encouraging faithfulness in a relationship.

Been reading TRP for a while and i was starting to feel inadequate for wanting to be in a monogamous faithful relationship. Yes AWALT i know, trust but verify.

Title	On Cheating
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Date	May 12, 2017 12:51 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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