On finding LTR material girls...

sodainthewatercup6 · 2015-10-27T16:05:45+00:00

It's possible. Thing is, to spot a girl worth your time you really need to spin plates to be able to tell a good one from a bad one.

I'm not a car guy, but I know I should test drive cars. If I took the time to test drive 20 cars, the time it takes to determine if one is good or bad will improve by the time I hop behind the wheel of car #20.

A girl that K-closes on date one is one of the prerequisites most people have. ABC though. If she's not turning down your advances, and you back out to K-close, that's not effective screening.

nightdepartures1 · 2015-10-28T02:47:30+00:00

They are rare (to you) because you are looking for them in the wrong areas - tinder, etc.

Open up your social circle and you will realize there are many girls that are not riding the CC. You won't find them on Tinder, but you will through sports, work, events, etc.

LoL-Guru · 2016-02-16T18:06:06+00:00

Some women will demand exclusivity before ~~giving~~ engaging in sex. These women will naturally have lower partner counts and may be more worthy of an LTR

youcantdenythat · 2015-10-27T16:58:51+00:00

TRP generally isn't about finding LTRs. It actually encourages avoiding them because they take too much time and energy you could be putting to more productive things.

Everyone says they want an LTR, but most of those people have a fantasy woman in mind, a unicorn as-it-were, which are very rare. Even if you find one, you probably won't be what she wants because you have been saving yourself for the unicorn and will have no idea what to do with her when you find her. She will want an experienced, wise, strong man who can handle her emotions and shit tests, while additionally being charming and attractive.

The only way to get good with women is practice.

You need to start with the easy ones and work your way up. Once you are a god among women, than you will have your pick of them. Not before.

gamefuck · 2015-10-28T12:20:58+00:00

Try fuck a girl on the first date and then trickle truth her by being "Sex positive" and "totally open about sexuality". Just give her positive reienforcment until she's told you every slutty thing she's done. Then assess if you want an LTR with this girl.

secret_barber · 2015-10-27T16:43:22+00:00

If your relationship doesn't start with intense sexuality, it will never be sexually intense. You can't negotiate passion.

Redrocketz · 2015-10-27T15:35:28+00:00

Not true, my current gf and i started off as fuckbuddies. She caught feelings for me hard, and i continued to fuck her till i realized a girl like this don't come around very often. Snatched her up, been together 2 years (been fuckin for 4).

TRPtruth · 2015-10-28T02:30:29+00:00

Where you are getting confused is in who is doing what. You need to be spinning plates and she needs to be committed to you from the first fuck. It is unfair but this is where the man has the upper hand (for once).

Here are the facts: you will never know how easy a girl fucks if you don't try to fuck her on the first date; you will never know how many dicks she's sucked and fucked; you will never know for sure if she has a history of being a slut (you will get red flags and tip offs but no solid evidence short of finding a collection of videos of her getting plowed that she kept for memories--that happens sometimes).

In this scenario, it doesn't matter if she fucked you on the first date because she has already offered up everything she has to offer to you. Now you hold the cards. Once you gain her sex, she has to earn your commitment. You are the keeper of commitment, not her. She is the keeper of sex. So she has already given you what she has to offer and now you need to decide if you want to give her what you have to offer.

Every MODERN successful relationship is built off that scenario. Woman gives what she has to offer in the most basic sense first then the man gives what he has to offer in the most basic sense if he wants it. She gives you sex then you give her commitment. This is fucked up for women, but it's direct result of feminism. In the old days you married a virgin and did not worry about whether you married a reformed slut who is able to suppress her 1,000 cock stair for only so long.

The issues always arise, in the modern world, when the scenario is reversed. That's when you fall into AF or BB territory. This is what men have fucked up due to "gurl power!!" You do not give her commitment and time and money and energy and resources on the off chance she might give you some pussy after she thinks Chad is done with her (for now). You do not give commitment before she gives sex.

The earlier the sex, the more willing she is to give you what she has to offer. In most cases (certainly not all) that shows you she is very into you. It's the best indicator usually.

In terms of spinning plates, it's not about spinning plates per se. The core of the issue is abundance and confidence. If you have both of those things you don't need to be spinning any plates. You meet a chick, you dick her good within an hour (because you are so confident you know she already wants it), and then she is yours and you decide what to do. Most men these days, however, do not have sufficient confidence or abundance mentality to commit to this scenario largely due to pussification of the modern man. So we say go ahead and spin plates because it's sort of a short cut to getting to that mentality (it's not a magic bullet though, nothing is).

Before you look for an LTR, however, you should have experience spinning plates in any event. Spin them just to spin them for a while. When you are ready for an LTR and have the confidence and abundance mentality radiating from you, you decide how you want to find a woman suitable to have kids with (if kids aren't your goal then you are wasting your time in an LTR).

Tom_The_Human · 2015-10-28T03:31:55+00:00

any girl that was willing to be fuck-buddies with me right off the bat, with zero commitment from my part, is not LTR material

All girls will give it up for free, for the right guy. That is their nature.

The girls that are LTR material for me are the ones that don't give it up to easily and expect some commitment in return, because they value their self-respect and relationships over hypergamy

But if you give your time to a woman who isn't fucking you, it is more likely lack of attraction. See above.

There are many other things which should be considered above "did we fuck too soon" on the LTR checklist.

[deleted] · 2015-10-28T03:49:12+00:00

I would never marry any woman that gives it up on the first date. The kind of woman you marry has a low n-count, hangs out with you because of you(never flaunt wealth if you have it), has a strong desire to raise a family, is a good cook, cleans, and is always willing to follow. See also: Unicorn.

EDDbDG · 2015-10-28T04:43:33+00:00

Not everything is about casual dating. Not every interaction with a female will should be seen as a potential plate/relationship. Be friends with someone who shares your same hobbies, you never know what will happen.

Also, good females ARE extremely rare in the west, but the uglier/poorer girls are, generally they're better people.

drallcom3 · 2015-10-28T09:19:07+00:00

The only girl worth a LTR is pretty much already in a LTR.

And you won't find a decent woman if you expect them to put out on the second date, be awesome in bed and dress sexy.

tino125 · 2015-10-27T17:32:41+00:00

You want a girl who is a slut for you, but a prude for everyone else... now how do you find this girl?

You need to elevate your SMV and game to where you can reasonably assess that yes, she slept with you, but that's not typical behavior and it's because you are a man worth sleeping with to gain his commitment. I typically don't judge girls for banging me quickly, I've made myself a man worth banging. Maybe it's male hamstering, but I've never LTR'ed a girl I haven't slept with first.

Date 2-3 is the area you're looking for. Date 1 is too easy, date 4 means she isn't attracted to you or has a hangup about sex. You really just need to feel it out.

boomshockalocker · 2015-10-27T17:48:11+00:00

Lol girls like that are exceedingly rare but one suggestion I have is to stay away from online dating services. There is no way some sweet innocent girl who doesn't give it up easily will be on Tinder or Hinge for example.

I think the best chances of finding a relatively conservative girl would come from places like coffeeshops, churches, bookstores, maybe in some kind of hobby group too. Also probably shouldn't be looking in bars/clubs either.

ItIsMyPrivilege · 2015-10-27T16:14:20+00:00

So a girl that makes you wait for sex is better? If a girl doesn't want to get with me right away, they aren't for me

Title	On finding LTR material girls...
Author	eazyThoughts
Upvotes	31
Comments	55
Date	October 27, 2015 3:30 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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