Suicidal

tunit50 · 2020-03-08T01:48:45+00:00

Don’t do it bro, keep grinding. Pick up a martial art like boxing, wrestling, bjj, or Muay Thai. Do some traveling. Get good sleep and you better be lifting and eating healthy. You will get over the anger phase too that’s why it’s a phase. Just don’t give up that’s beta shit.

mams1724 · 2020-03-08T01:58:42+00:00

I'd rather be a "lonely virgin incel" knowing that my self worth isnt determined by being with women or the idea of chasing women. IMO love yourself first. At the end of the day its always going to be yourself vs the world, women are just extra.

Also, men can be emotional with eachother if trusted, but its important to stop pitying yourself and take action.

ChadBreeder1 · 2020-03-08T02:21:15+00:00

TRP is first and foremost about your mission. I barely even skimmed this woe is me post, but I can already tell that your problem is your mission, or lack thereof.

warshadow518 · 2020-03-08T01:56:32+00:00

how do you guys cope with knowing the truth of female nature and society not giving a fuck about us men?

I've accepted that fact and moved on to better myself. Life is a shit test, and we get shit tested everyday by females, beta faggot males, SJWs, jobs, humans.

Don't do anything. You have the RED PILL COMMUNITY ON YOUR SIDE. I'M ON YOUR SIDE FAM, YOU ARE MY BROTHER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TAKEN THE RED PILL. WE BOTH SHARE THE SAME SHIT. I WILL ALWAYS BE ON YOUR SIDE. PM ME IF YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT SHIT. MY BROTHER.

spliezer · 2020-03-08T01:59:46+00:00

it’s all about perception bro. you just gotta learn to have fun with it, enjoy it for what it is. are you saying because girls are whores you wouldn’t enjoy fucking a super model whore? also things can change in your life at literally any moment so even though you don’t know what to look forward to exactly, all you have to do is know there is going to be something that comes your way eventually that if you knew about it today you would have been looking forward to it.

instead of killing yourself, take some more healthy “risks” since you think life doesn’t matter anyway. ask that hot girl out, go skydiving, etc. i have struggled with depression in the past and changing my perception on things has helped a lot.

warshadow518 · 2020-03-08T02:18:00+00:00

Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight, And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way, Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

wowkwo · 2020-03-08T02:17:25+00:00

Life is the greatest gift any of us will ever have and it sounds like you've worked hard and been incredibly blessed.

TRP isn't going to solve all of your problems, but it's like the Matrix movie. Reality doesn't always live up to our expectations or dreams, but the only one responsible for your life is you.

Accepting the red pill gives you the keys to the kingdom. You're incredibly blessed to have been red pill aware at such a young age, you have everything in front of you.

Your life is important and it matters, I promise you you will eventually feel much better and be happy.

Stick with it and stay strong brother.

warshadow518 · 2020-03-08T02:51:59+00:00

[deleted]

2020-03-08T03:26:31+00:00

Watch Richard coopers video about depression. Just go on YouTube and search “Entrepreneurs in cars depression” and trust me it will help

GGrub8 · 2020-03-08T05:31:00+00:00

We're not here to validate your thoughts. Think your life is worthless? Either end it or work on it.

furcryingoutloud · 2020-03-08T06:25:13+00:00

56 yr old here. Knowing it's all bullshit has been the most liberating shit I've ever been through. It's so true society doesn't give a shit about men. AWALT is also true.

But you know what? I don't give a fuck about society either. And knowing AWALT, I plate women and only enjoy the good they have to offer. Otherwise, they are out the door. I am freer than ever and yeah, I fully ran out of fucks to give about anything.

And life has become more enjoyable after the dark period that inevitably comes after a realization of this nature. Do things that will make your memories excellent ones when you are on your deathbed. Enjoy each moment and stay curious.

PinacoladaSauce · 2020-03-08T06:55:04+00:00

Woahhh easy there. Women lie, they cheat, they jump willingly from person to person. That does not mean they are Inherently bad people.

I only plate girls who I can have a good conversation with or who genuinely surprise me, and this happens more frequently than most will tell you.

Most people are not inherently bad people. Everyone does bad things tho. That doesn’t mean life is not worth living.

PM me if you need to talk. Here if you need it

Jessor69 · 2020-03-08T02:00:23+00:00

How many girls have you fucked?

GEEE26 · 2020-03-08T02:40:19+00:00

No greater way to fight weakness than with strength. This Reddit is a real eye opener. You know how many posts in two months or so since I signed up, I’ve seen similar to yours? It’s really staggering. As RP aware and familiar with this philosophy as I am, I tell you something now, investing so heavily into any ideology will cause you trauma and have negative consequences. especially RP as it comprises of a cynicism worldview, a series of reality check that lies a rude awakening. careful with RP you can destroy yourself. You then enter Nihilism.

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND HAVE ACCEPTANCE of the harshness of life, nature, society, females, whatever. Understanding, Acceptance, Detachment and Freedom. basically you don’t invest so heavily fellas, this is where most of you self sabotaging and fucking up. Keep the harsh reality checks at the back of your mind, remember the awareness of possibilities and live your life to the best you can. It’s not always the circumstances but the stories you tell yourself that has you seldom feel blue.

I will tell you the best advice to acquiring such acceptance. Learn to be happy with the bare minimum, happy is a stretch, I say contentment, peace, tranquility. If you can be satisfied with ground level it can only get better for you. Sometimes it take extreme circumstances for people to understand and appreciate and hold more gratitude that each and every person take for granted everyday. I can only speak for myself I was red pilled so young, I don’t experience negative drawbacks, I never really did, I view everything as survival and moving forward. I’m not concerned with all the bullshit people worry about. I lack empathy and had to be strong early in life. I adapted fast. You must adapt too.

dudedoodickle · 2020-03-08T03:10:19+00:00

check your hormone levels

alphakari · 2020-03-08T03:44:25+00:00

It's a dog's nature to leave hair everywhere. Don't mean we can't love bitches.

Nergaal · 2020-03-08T04:28:51+00:00

I recommend give Jordan Peterson a try. He has good points to make.

TLDR: find a mission in your life

roll_the_dice7749 · 2020-03-08T05:02:47+00:00

You sound a bit overwhelmed. Nothing wrong with that. Take a break, and really consider what you think is the truth.

Personally, yeah I believe on some level all women are easy and lie. But I’ve been a whore and I lie too. That’s just human nature. Most people are like that. The key to anxiety around this is ensuring that you’re never in a position to be exploited or at risk.

You have your dream job. I’m going to assume you’re earning enough to support yourself. Perfect. You don’t have to rely on your partner financially and therefore you have financial freedom.

The other risk is emotional risk. We all fall prey to this. Even guys like Brad Pitt get oneitis. You’re young enough to take some risk and take chances on girls you care too much about. Good. As long as you don’t get married right now, move in with the wrong girl or get someone pregnant, you’re pretty much golden. And the pain of losing someone you care about too much, will help you deal with your feelings when you want to overcommit the next time.

You’re doing fine. You’re 25 with your dream job. I wish I could say the same. Just take a step back, breathe, listen to yourself, don’t take trp too seriously, be prepared to take some risks, be brave and be grateful for what you have.

Ill_mumble_that · 2020-03-08T05:20:46+00:00

every single woman is a whore and a liar out there

This is why you need male friends. You've made women too much of a focus in your life. There are true bros out there that will care for you and you for them.

They will become your brother and your bond with them will become greater than any bond you will ever have with a woman. Minus the sex stuff.

BNEDub · 2020-03-08T05:50:58+00:00

If you're genuinely suicidal man that sucks but get off Reddit and get legit help don't rely on a forum to solve your quarter life crisis.

As for dealing with reality and accepting it - it's the confines in which we operate as humans we can't impact or change it we can only work with it. Be thankful you have the knowledge you do and stop hanging your validation on whether or not women will ever truly care about you.

jamaicanmecrzy · 2020-03-08T06:31:26+00:00

Lift or exercise. Please lift for 4 weeks straight. Do that then come back here and see how you feel. Consider therapy. Your line of work its probably a must. Girls dont not care about guys. They just want men. They dont care for boys or losers. There are nice girls out there. Give them a reason to be nice.

Kkiy0M · 2020-03-08T07:37:40+00:00

Man. Trp is really funny and I’m only subbed to the sub for amusement, but it’s not nice seeing posts like this. I think the question you need to ask yourself is why you tie women so closely to your self-esteem. Are you gonna die if women don’t swoon over you? Is the breathing to your nose gonna be cut off?? No. Why do you want to be admired like a little princess by women telling you how pretty and attractive you are? Your main obsession should be distinguishing yourself as a man, and if it’s not then you need to check that weakness. Your dream is to live to please other people, and it’s turning into a nightmare for you. Get rid of that dream and you’ll get rid of the nightmare.

DiskKiller2 · 2020-03-08T07:52:05+00:00

If you need to talk to someone, talking to a therapist is a good idea. All in all, showing some weakness and vulnerability isn’t always a bad idea. If you got your shit together in general, it’s ok to open up a little sometimes. We aren’t machines.

I’ve never experienced depression or suicidal thoughts, though, so I can’t help on that front. Personally I think the world is a wonderful place full of interesting opportunities and fascinating people, and that observation isn’t ruined by the fact that many / most hot women follow somewhat depressing behavioral patterns. 😅

Rest assured that there are good people out there, too. When you worry about “the true nature of women”, it may help to remind yourself that you probably aren’t perfect or 100% sincere in life either.

TheKarts · 2020-03-08T08:17:30+00:00

Suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem. We are all going to die someday so why rush... as i have been there myself when i was at your age then i'll say it gets better, as long as you don't stop moving. Go outside, nothing good comes when You are in your room between 4 walls by yourself. Life wont come there to check up on you. Go and live.

shadowq8 · 2020-03-08T08:49:03+00:00

I think you take the red pill a bit too seriously...

wont_tell_i_refuse_ · 2020-03-08T08:53:26+00:00

Read Whatever by Michel Houllebecq

11-Eleven-11 · 2020-03-08T08:59:06+00:00

I feel stupid saying this because I'm so young (22) but patience is a virtue. It will be worth it someday. The work. The grief. The pain. Someday it will all be worth it keep grinding. Seek professional help if you need it. If sex won't help there is nothing wrong with waiting for that one girl that will wait with you.

Personally I'm grinding out an engineering degree that I will hopefully finish at 24. I have my little brother, my very little sister (14) and I would never abandon them. Find that person you wouldn't abandon. They would be DEVASTATED if I was gone.

I also have plans for the future. I want the job. I want to rock climb. I want to mountain climb. I want mountain bike. I want to mma. I want to learn guitar and piano. I'm already a decent soccer player, I want to improve that. I want to be a good engineer that younger engineers look up to. I want to be somebody that in generalt people look up to.

Even though I think I'm fucking pussy right now, there's so many things to look forward to while we're young.

One step at a time.

Don't give up.

ElijahBurningWoods · 2020-03-08T09:02:38+00:00

I used to be depressed for no reason. Some people -like me- have endogene depression which has nothing to do with how your life is going. Maybe let yourself get checked for that. I take medication for it now and I feel great.

Stop focussing on women. Find a mission.

alex_tjw · 2020-03-08T09:28:30+00:00

Most of the advice I've seen here has been pretty solid so far.

Yes, I believe therapy would be extremely helpful to you considering what you've previously said.

Hey!, we all take care of each other. I really hope the best for you bro. Life is good and always keep your head up no matter what.

paul_ernst · 2020-03-08T09:48:16+00:00

So I read you fucked two girls in your life. Honestly that's all I need to know you don't know women. I fucked two girls this week and TRP will forever always be an internet version of some pieces of the truth which tends to sound good, but once you start fucking girls regularly, TRP becomes locker room talk. It's strong boys impressing you with strong words and some half-truths mostly based on there few experiences. It's first class entertainment but at the end of the talk you have to get on the field and play it yourself and play it your way. And then one day you're gonna run in that room and yell "Guys! You gotta carve your own path regardless of what eveyone is saying!" and they'll say that's exactly what they've been saying all along. You got caught up in the details of the stories.

Lift. Become a social kid. You'll find there are many good women out there, and all TRP is saying is to stop being a little bitch and be prepared to walk away.

schrono · 2020-03-08T10:05:34+00:00

Smoke some weed and keep doing your shit, tell ppl to go fuck themselves if they go on your nerves and don’t be afraid to burn a bridge or 2 for being yourself. People will respect that or fuck off, you‘kk Win either way. BTW not all women are as bad the sub here suggests I‘ve found one with a good career, high education and she’s also cool, funny and a great person. The reason she loves me is because she likes hanging out with me and we have a fun time together, the sex is also great. Just stick to yourself and be true to your beliefs and don’t forget that it’s ok to numb yourself with a plate or some drugs every now and then, especially women will never judge a guy who went double digits.

RevolutionaryPea7 · 2020-03-08T10:19:50+00:00

Sounds like you've taken a black pill. Lay off the TRP reading for now. Forget about women. Look into Stoicism. Once you stop trying to fight the world you will be ready to learn to use it to your advantage.

Stinger86 · 2020-03-08T10:21:10+00:00

The nature of women IS genuinely depressing sometimes bro. The fact that you will be used for what you can give them at the time, and then they can move on easily and not give a fuck about you. I don't think there is an easy answer here. The only thing I can really say is TRP allows us as men to see reality the way it is truly constructed and thereby game the system instead of the system gaming us 24/7.

Some genuine, cool people exist out there that you can bond with and who will not just use you for what you can give them, and who will be loyal. They are called other men. Maybe that's not super comforting but at least other humans exist to whom you can share your thoughts and feelings and who will offer you empathy regardless of what you can do for them.

Like others have suggested, working out is a very good therapy. Lift, gain muscle, shed bodyfat, work on yourself and increasing your own value & image. If you are perceived as low value, women will not care about you at all. Nevermind the fact that all of the stuff suggested above actually makes you feel better on a physical, actual, hormonal level. Get good sleep and set your sights on becoming the best guy you can be, while forgetting the hurts of the past (recent or distant) and the scars they may have incurred on your soul. Or, if you can't forget them, at least don't dwell on them and allow them to damage and scar you more deeply.

You have value & you can create many good memories ahead, but only if you stay strong like all the rest of us here are trying to do together. Good luck.

iamgroot333 · 2020-03-08T10:40:44+00:00

meditation saved me from existential dread

rickit3k · 2020-03-08T10:46:30+00:00

Bro, don't see things so black/white. Women come in numerous shades of grey. Actually all humans lie, men and women. But the question is, why and when and to whom and how often, etc. etc. I suggest reading about behavioral biology/psychology in general. You will quickly find out, that it all makes sense, and even make you happy. If you find the right girl, she will not lie more to you, than you will to her. Redpill / PUA / Male empowerment are extremely important movements for us, but don't let them eat you. There's a world outside of that and if you bring it all together, it will actually make sense.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2020-03-08T05:41:26+00:00

1) If you're seriously considering going through with it I urge you to call: 1-800-273-8255 right away.

2) I'm pulling for you mate. I've been there. You're not as alone as you think.

Suicide is Permanent solution to a temporary problem.

In any case, offing yourself doesn't make the pain actually go away, 0%, it just kind of spreads it onto the people you care about the most.

You need to talk to a psychiatrist ASAP.

Chronic Depression is one of the easiest mental health problems to treat. It's also probably the most common.

In your case it sounds like you have a legit medical condition. It's not depression as a result of your life situation.

Please talk to a Mental health professional.

After all you wouldn't have a problem calling a plumber if your water heater burst and flooded your basement.

Get expert assistance right away before the damage to you mental house gets more expensive.

It's all about knowing the right kind of person to ask at the right time.

Hey guys. 25 years old. Working hard in life. Got my dream job. Making good money. Great family (dad&mom still together). I have many friends. Pretty much I have a great life. Yet I'm isolating myself from everyone. Depressed.

Definitely sounds like you have Depression Disorder.

Depression is a normal response to emotional or physical trauma. This is a survival mechanism. Indeed a lot of depression symptoms resemble the flu for example. Like many processes in the brain it's poorly understood.

However in some people, this response is triggered in the absence of any clear outside trauma, stress, injury, or threat.

That every single woman is a whore

Stop trying to tell women what to be or how to behave. Your sentimental notions about your own sexuality don't apply.

I thought achieving my goal of getting my dream job would end my pain of knowing the truth

Mate, I'm almost 40 and the older I get, the less I care for "truth" as a concept. And I personally think you should too.

Shit's boring.

You need to stick to simple facts. Facts tell a more interesting story than trying to set something up as "truth." You want to get me to stop paying attention, start spouting nonsense about all this truth you think you know about.

how do you guys cope with knowing the truth of female nature and society not giving a fuck about us men?

Society doesn't give a fuck about anybody. You're not an exceptional victim because you're a man.

Does therapy help? Should I see a therapist for my mental health? I work as a emergency responder and I've seen some bad shit that's been bothering me. Saw a hanging.

Yeah, I really recommend you to talk to a professional.

Anybody would be seriously emotionally affected by that. That would be a fucked up situation even to the sanest, healthiest person. Sounds like your mental defenses aren't exactly in top shape right now.

Will I eventually get out the anger/depression phase? Will the pain eventually disappear?

I don't think this is has a lot to with TRP. Any idea what's really bothering you?

I feel so lonely even though I have friends. I cant talk to anyone how I feel because weak men get stepped on.

Let go of your Outcome-Expectations here.

Either they'll be dicks or they won't.

People being douche nozzles isn't anything new.

Some of your previously assumed friends are going to come out and be assholes to you at the wrong time, no matter what. It doesn't really matters what you tell them.

Don't think you being a fucking Iceman is going to somehow prevent it from happening. That's because their douche-baggery is not about you as a person and you need to stop thinking their bullshit revolves around you.

So at least you can get something you value out of the situation which is having someone listen to you for a few goddamn minutes. Then go back to whatever in their own lives and choose to view you in whichever way is convenient for them.

This isn't about them stepping on you or not. This is about you being afraid to get what you really need, and being afraid to be authentic.

theUnBannableHulk · 2020-03-08T05:08:17+00:00

Review any dumb meds you’re taking, most of the anti depression scam medicine themselves make you suicidal

celebritycoke · 2020-03-08T02:34:28+00:00

Your 25 dude. The older I’ve gotten the more depressing shit becomes because reality gets clearer but the more I’ve stopped being a little bitch and fight against it by simply winning.

thrwy75479 · 2020-03-08T06:31:51+00:00

Please do not commit suicide. The following is a list of suicide hotlines across the world:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines

There are people that want to help. If you are feeling overwhelmed, talk to family, or close friends, or even strangers. You may also want to seek the help of a trusted professional.

Title	Suicidal
Author	warshadow518
Upvotes	36
Comments	75
Date	March 8, 2020 1:41 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/ff5ct2/suicidal/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/askTRP/suicidal.353305 https://theredarchive.com/post/353305

Comments