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What was the reason for your mind shift from beta to alpha and discovering TRP

mikeyp_88

May 20, 2018
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Title What was the reason for your mind shift from beta to alpha and discovering TRP
Author

mikeyp_88

Upvotes 18
Comments 49
Date May 20, 2018 1:20 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/askTRP
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/8kskaf/what_was_the_reason_for_your_mind_shift_from_beta/
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Comments

[–]civilizedfrog54 points55 points56 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Virgin nice guy.....at 26th birthday. Oneitis of over 8 yrs tells "just be yourself" and walks away with new Chad as birthday gift.

[–]Aesthetic_God__1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

That actually made me feel sad. But also happy as it was a life lesson to you, you're still here getting better. Cool

[–]civilizedfrog1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. In fact, I would boldly say that this was the best gift she could ever given me.

[–]Aesthetic_God__0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Alright don't undermine yourself. It was just an indication that things should change, that you should change. You don't owe the stuck up bitch nothing.

[–]civilizedfrog0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. Big changes had to be made. During my beta faggatron days, we made a promise that by the age of 30 we don't get married, she would marry me. She made her move towards her plan by sleeping with me after my breakup with a gf and saying that she is "in love with me". I said that I'm not ready for a commitment. Even if I do get married (I wont), it will never be with her. I would rather eat lead than marry her.

[–]Aesthetic_God__0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wait you fucked this girl later on?

[–]civilizedfrog1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah. She came home to talk about how Chad dumped her for the 27486th time and I was lifting weights shirtless, ignoring her. Then she started touching me inappropriately. One thing led to another and now she thinks she has found "The One".

[–]Aesthetic_God__0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh my dude you should play around with this one, show low availability and be scarce. Definitely fuck her friends

[–]Gozsayin0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There was a time I would have been angry at this type of thing. My oneitis dumped ny right before prom (ouch). For years I was mad but then I realized it would be been worse if she had continued to lie to me about liking me just to make me feel better.

It's not who says yes it's who says no

[–]ariky0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What a true bitch. AWALT

[–]g4casting0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What for? Not wanting the 26yr old beta?

[–]tikitheman34 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Lack of respect in relationships and noticing the disconnect between what woman say and what they do.

[–]NeverPullSumo20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The friendzone.

[–]RedPilledRoaster36 points37 points38 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There is no ‘friendzone.’ You’re either fucking her or being used.

[–]NeverPullSumo17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Name checks out.

In all seriousness, though, I learned that the hard way. Good on you for putting this information out there, man. You’re fighting the good fight.

[–]ricoue1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

isnt friendzone just another name for being used

[–]RedPilledRoaster0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The ‘friendzone’ is considered by many guys to be a purgatory which they will eventually get out of.

They hamster it as being a friendship, when in reality the girl is using the guy because she knows he will do anything for her in hopes of sex.

[–]cl353711 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Putting in little effort with women and still getting to bang them.

[–]LeftAndRed 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not all of us were beta before.

I was a loser fuck boi. An uncalibrated alpha destroying his life.

[–]dudethatneversleeps8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I started off as a beta who wanted to get good, so I became a lurker in r/seduction . After a while, I stumbled on a post saying how sexist and misogynist r/TheRedPill is, and after reading some posts, I agreed. It was only after a bit of going out and talking to a few girls that I noticed certain patterns emerge. I started thinking that maybe r/TheRedPill is not that wrong. Been stuck here ever since.

[–]lifeisweirdasfuck6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Having been rejected for like 50 times in the past. Always wanted to understand why and I first found out the pua community and only then TRP.

[–]oyoungpadawan11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

-Been in a bunch of "friendzones"

-Cheated on

-Used for attention, driving girls to places etc...

-Spiraled down into completely stopping nearly all interaction with women

Since I found trp I had to go through all of the above phases AGAIN before I finally got the message.

I'm a long way from alpha, but I've ditched some toxic friends (male and female) and had some success with girls since trp.

It's going the right way.

[–]yeahhhhhhman 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It wasnt just one specific event actually. It was a process for me. A process of 2-3 years. I noticed something was wrong when I was getting disrespect, later I saw oneitis making out with another kid. Later I tell this oneitis that I ‘loved’ her she says I should have told before and I have the oppurtunity to kiss. But I couldnt, I kiss her neck then leave. Then I get schemed on in the club that I was the leader of. Now although in the end I manage to restore my leadership and continue just as Ive planned, the fact that this could have turn out bad for me hit me. After this I start cutting hair more often more self respect etc. And finally I get a huge oneitis, I dont have the balls to ask her out or even tease her. Although I have become close with her, it wasnt as Ive wanted. No respect no desire etc. It would either become a beta ass relationship or just an orbiter friendship.

Throught all these I see girls fucking ‘assholes’. Everyone else at my age in my class have some kind of intimacy, except me. All these made me realise that world is not the blue place I had been living in. So Internet crosses my roads with TRP. After reading it, Im glad Ive found some logical explanation. Im glad Im here.

Ps 18 yo kissless virgin, known TRP since 1.5 month. Still a virgin but my lifeview has changed and people started to notice the change aswell.

[–]ariky1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

18 is actually a nice age compared to 25. (SadFace)

[–]rpthrowaway8715 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

First oneitis. Got her by being naturally alpha, lost her by being beta.

I still cringe thinking back.

[–]coriollanvs0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same, nobody said it would be like this

[–]Mr_Badass3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I got tired of being a people pleaser. Hated getting oneitis all the time and felt like I lacked masculinity. I was into PUA from 2009 to 2015 and felt it was silly. Sure I approached lots of girls but it didn't help my core confidence. I did things to impress others. Finding the TRP in 2016 combined with seeing a psychologist I discovered I had learned helplessness, mommy and daddy issues, and very low self esteem. The past 7 months of monk mode has brought been the greatest change in my life. Now women are flirting with me, men respect me, and I love myself. TRP showed me a whole new world. I control my life.

[–]ariky0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What were consisted in your monk mode if I may know?

[–]Mr_Badass1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My monk mode was no social media at all and lifting at least 5x a week. I was in a cocoon working on improving my physique and learning to be by myself. Worked on getting validation from my own accomplishments and not relying ob external validation. Also no sugar and only using the internet to improve myself.

[–]AltBuzzer 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Still in the early stages of shifting, but basically. I'm in my late 20's, still a virgin, never had a relationship, lousy friends, grew up being told by my dad that I was worthless and he didn't really teach me anything (even though he could have), and I don't know how to be a man. I'm a former hardcore gamer, porn addict, and I'm a college undergraduate in my late 20's.

I realized that my way of dealing with women, and men, and life in general wasn't working and I realized that society had spoon-fed me bullshit. I got angry and came here.

[–]Tuno930 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Same situation brother...

[–]AltBuzzer 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Better late than never. Every time I get discouraged I look back at the progress I've made.

[–]oldfahionedideas9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always liked the more traditional values of the 1940/1950 years and searched Reddit for subreddits about that. Then I stumbled over r/becomeaman and saw that it’s a red pill subreddit. I visited the red pill subreddit and after reading some posts I noticed all that all the stuff that went wrong in my last LTR was because of beta behavior. I’m still in the process on developing myself and fully swallowing the pill but my life becomes more and more awesome.

[–]Incognito_famous2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wanted a relationship, but I was just a rebound to her. I knew something was wrong. After she left me I started to go out more, go to the gym. 4 months later I found this subreddit and since than I'm digesting the pill.

[–]isaiahjeremie7 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

17 years old wanted to never have bitches be a problem so I can achieve better things.

[–]Aer0_Dynam1c 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Started noticing a pattern in the behavior of women, but was unable to put my finger on it. Got dumped last Easter by a girl I --in my blue pulled haze-- thought was my "soulmate." Yeah, she left me for another guy, telling me something along the lines of she could "no longer be my happiness." For context, my cousin had just killed himself after a long bout with cancer. I took it hard, and started drinking again. I was already a wreck, then she left and I spiraled for a few months after.

So I was fucked up for awhile, and happened upon this sub by chance. At first I emphatically rejected every idea offerrd and post read, but I was intrigued. Everything made so much sense, and eventually something clicked in my brain. I'd always been an alpha male with deep seated blue pulled views. I could attract girls, but I was always looking for "the one." I'd open up entirely too much, and things always took a familiar route. "You're good, but too good for me." Which I now know was because of my blue pilled ways.

Anyhow, these days I'm on the right track. When I think of how I used to be, it makes me cringe hard. I'm grateful for everything you guys do. Y'all were quite literally the final piece to the puzzle. Thanks again.

[–]yaozy2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just a reminder that being "alpha" isn't the endgame. After the "multiple and easy fucks" stage starts to wear in its excitement (which it does) you start to realise women will still fuck you over. What's most important is raising your SMV and being dedicated to your own mission. That's ultimate happiness

[–]TheBiss2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My now ex wife of twenty years went AWALT and destroyed our family, just for the tingles.

[–]ElGrekk3 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

BPD Girlfriend dumped me

[–]wheresMYsteakAt1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I kinda stumbled on it"the wrong way". I dumped a 10yr ltr that was very much like a marriage. I didn't real feel as bad as I thought I should, I felt guilty for not being crushed by it.

I tried to find out "what was wrong with me" and read a bunch of crap about personality disorders and somehow came across some article about bpd women being attracted to certain.... Personality traits and from there a site linked me here.

[–]bigbodybuilderr1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I honestly always knew the 'harsh truths' thats why I starting lifting. I knew about PUA and had results. Then I discovered TRP. To me it was just icing on the cake.

[–]Aesthetic_God__1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I was in love with that girl when I was finishing high school. We used to be in the same friends group, held each other every night, watching movies at home while cuddling, playing on the beach and then finally kiss each other for the first time. Until her ex boyfriend came back to the scene, even before that she texted me a long message full of crap, telling me she was unsure and didn't want to hurt my feelings, but she had to take this decision and ask me to be just friends. I can reassure you, I've had ltrs with girls I liked, even loved, and I cried when it had to end, even suffered oneitis with my ex girlfriend some time in my life. But this, this literally broke my heart into pieces for the first time in my life at my late 17's. Soon I had to move to my college city, I left the girl. I discovered PUA a couple years later. Crazy life progress. TRP comes into the play three years later. The same girl turns back, we happen to meet and talk now and then and says I've improved a lot, got buff, lookin pretty and specifically pretty better than other men she knows and I had some decent girlfriends. Of course I kept it casual with her, I wouldn't want to go back even if it'd turn out good. It takes a man of steel to fuck a girl he once had feelings for without getting entangled in them again.

[–]zboo1h1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got tired of being unhappy with myself and unable to figure out how to improve.

[–]imsorted0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reading about the the errors I had made and understanding why I got friend zoned for doing things I thought would work. I somehow went through theredpill and into MGTOW when I realised, sex aside, that it has no benefit to my life what so ever. Just a massive drain on mental and financial resources

[–]PlzBuffBeamu0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After getting dumped by my LTR I was disgusted with myself for how weak I was emotionally. Decided I was done being someone who needed others (women) to be happy.

[–]Thunderfin0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, not alpha yet. Virgin at 19, have lots of potential but missed so many opportunities in HS. Not going to be the nice guy and repeat my mistakes in college during prime CC time.

[–]ariky0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow I did similar back in the days. I used the phone only for calls or navigation. No social media, no WhatsApp or any texting. I’ve been always a self improving guy, it’s like a passion. The only problem is I’ve got a serious health issue that pull me down while doing physical effort. I was a U18 football player before university.

How is lifting affecting you? I think I’m missing too much yet I’m 185 cm and 84 kg.

[–]bf1bro181 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Being friendzoned for the billionth time and having people walk all over me.

[–]NJA42421 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I played the game exactly how society told me to and I got nowhere. I got turned down by too many girls who later banged my friends and the reset button would get hit. I've gone monk mode a few times before I even knew what it was tried different sites, picked up information from different friends and even was on TRP before but I couldn't handle the material at the time.

What brought me back this time was a girl who ghosted me then ended up banging my roommate who's bedroom was directly above me, while I was trying to sleep.

She actually had the nerve to invite me out with another social circle we were both a part of for her birthday and a couple other times.

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