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[–]Zebrahead033 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You have to strike while the iron is hot.
Especially the more attractive the woman is. If you wait too long thinking you're being nice or respectful, blah blah blah, you're only increasing the likelihood that someone else will swoop in and make a move.
[–]anonasn 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He who hesitates, masturbates.
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I think it's kinda stupid that we even allow this behavior, personally.
Anyway, there isn't some standardized set amount of time that things need to happen in. This is going to differ between people. Some will go faster or slower than others. You're probably going to end up with someone who was comfortable going the same speed as you. It would be exhausting and a pain in the ass trying to gauge every single person you come across just to increase your chances of getting with someone you might not be compatible with.
So fuck their windows. Just do what you feel. If they have a problem with it, then they're probably not for you.
[–]willgo-waggins 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This precisely.
I have spent over six months going with a gradual building situation with my girl because BOTH of us weren’t ready for serious commitment when we met despite the completely obvious feelings for each other and the way we fit seamlessly together.
Over the last two months we have gradually moved into a far more intense and emotional connection where we know that we are both pretty much ready to move into a real declared relationship. And that’s how it worked out best.
It’s totally an individual thing and has zero to do with any time frame or anything else.
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[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So this is funny.
She really wanted it (as did I) the first night we met. But we ended up where I told her no and we just slept because she was way too drunk to consent by the time we were going to bed.
She proved that the next few days by asking me if we had because she had some gaps. When I told her no and what happened, she was absolutely enthralled that I would not take advantage of her.
So the following weekend we got together again and she said “I’m not drinking because I am having you tonight the way we should have last weekend”.
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[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh yes absolutely. It was fucking incredible. Both ways we talked them and any times since how amazing it is that we fit like we were designed for each other.
That was almost seven months ago BTW. We are going to a work party tonight and then staying at my place and leaving for a vacation week together tomorrow morning. Things are progressing quite well and at this point I have yet to see any reason why I wouldn’t happy be with her permanently. We have something really special connection wise and she’s easily the most compatible woman I have ever been with in my entire life in every way.
[–]blackopsplayer5 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I always get lazy and just not want to go out
[–]Stujitsu2 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can absolutely make a move too soon or wait too long.
[–]opqjuag 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This!!!!! I am a girl, and although I haven’t had a thousand partners or dates, I know for a fact that this is accurate. Does this go for men as well?
[–]Dracron 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not really. For guys what disqualifies someone is rarely time, its usually things like wasting our time or making us waste our time, dragging us into drama, the list goes on. You basically have to disqualify yourself somehow or they find someone else. Some guys will move on if they don't think things are going to happen, but if its someone your attracted to in your social circle, or work or something where you will see them from time to time the option is probably open until it becomes clear it closed.
[–]Artrock80 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is true, and I've missed the window sooooo many times.
[–]sienfiekdsa 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are not a monolith. What works for Billy and Susan doesn’t work for Billy and Alisha. Or James and Alisha. Or Susan and Tommy. align with who you align with and stop acting like women are a video game with levels to get through
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Don't ask for a date immediately, but don't wait too long either. Have a small conversation to show you're not an idiot/loser/creep, then ask her out. 5-10 messages max. Could also be same day, doesn't matter.
As for making moves, you 100% need to get at least a kiss-close at the end of the first date, if not a full-on f-close. Build comfort, yes, but also make a move before it's over. How she reacts to the kiss or your invite back to yours will tell you whether it will lead to an f-close too or whether you have to wait for the 2nd date for that.
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[–]Canadian-Seductioner 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh I never go on coffee dates, waste of time. Drinks at a bar always for the first date. Coffee dates are for friends, not romantic partners.
But when it comes to normal women, I just can't see them really wanting to have sex on the first date even if they really like me.
Believe it or not, it's a thing. Probably half of my first dates end up with f-closes.
[–]lordbelua 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I f closed on my life's first approach. Probably luck but still happened.
[–]caesarfecit 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Women want to be desired. That's what they really crave from men. To feel special, important, valued. In respects, that's what we all want out of the opposite sex.
So if you're a guy who just so happens to stir a woman's interest and you dilly-dally, go super slow, give her nothing to react to, and generally waste her time, you're holding back the one thing she wants most from you, like a girl who acts super-prudish for some unknown reason.
And you wonder why women lose interest when guys let them go cold?
Now this has to be counterbalanced of course with a woman's need to feel safe with a guy and trust him before she gives herself over to his desire, but you get the point. You can't expect a woman to treat you like a priority if you treat her like an option.
In fact, I'm almost convinced that when women treat guys like options, they're copying the same behavior of guys who just weren't that into them.
[–]Skywaalk3r 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I’ve had girls chasing me my whole life, attractive ones. Always been chased instead of me doing the chasing. And now that I’m older (33) it’s been a curse in some ways because I can never seem to get the girls I actually want, I’m trying to learn the “chase” but man is it hard when girls fall on your lap…. I mean yeah it was fun in my 20s but I want a serious relationship now and I don’t think that’s happening anytime soon. But idgaf, keep improving me and maybe the right one will finally fall into my lap….
[–]daddysgotanew -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks for your honesty. Hopefully men here read this. If you’re chasing women as a man, you’ve already lost
[–]caesarfecit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I too can relate to the experience of getting female attention when I wasn't looking for it and/or too awkward and young to know what to do with it.
Part of the reason why I wanted to learn game in the first place is because I wanted to choose rather than merely be chosen. I wanted to date extraordinary women, not just whoever would have me.
[–]stanthemilkman88 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Between 6 and 10 msg you send.
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