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[–]letsgetrandy 53 points54 points55 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
You're trying too hard.
If someone says "entertain me", say something like, "Oh... I've got a GREAT story that will keep you in suspense!" Then don't say anything else. If she asks what it is say, "I'll tell you later."
And for the love of god, don't ever try to manipulate some compliment out of a person by saying "why do you hate me?" That entire second dialog was low self-esteem cringe.
[–]AlarmedBasis7671 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How do i stop myself from “trying too hard”? I know that my game is not on point and texting is optimal in this situation as I can take my time to practice. If I just say whatever comes to mind the convo dies fast.
Edit: typo
[–]letsgetrandy 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
People with no game tend to have a few things in common which need to be corrected. See if any of these match your situation:
[–]AlarmedBasis7671 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Actually I can be totally honest and say no. I just don’t have any experience. Though the only one that rings a bell is the third point. However I consider that as a way to learn, I still go out and experiment IRL and try to learn from my mistakes.
I don’t recall ever holding back saying something “edgy”
I believe I actually have an interesting life with a lot of things going on for me
I am worthy of her attention. I’ve noticed a lot of girls showing much interest in me over the last few months, which made me more confident in being “worthy”. More than once I was interested back. What frustrates is I never could get myself to make something out of the situation.
I’m not desperate about getting with a girl. If it doesn’t ever happen then it just doesn’t and it’s ok since I have much more to live for. But I acknowledge that this is something that would be nice to work on.
[–]TopBlacksmith160 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah that was a very cringey convo but she sounds like she has the brain of a pre teen too so its a match made in heaven 😂
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[–]AlarmedBasis7671 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t agree with that. Vulnerability is fundamental for any relationship.
[–]AlarmedBasis7671 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The why do you hate me came after she jokingly wished something undesirable on me. It was a joke I wasn’t trying to get a compliment. About the rest, I don’t understand why you consider this low self esteem cringe
[–]letsgetrandy 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Her: HAHAHAHA ur twisting my words Me: what are ur words👀?
Her: HAHAHAHA ur twisting my words
Me: what are ur words👀?
You're so desperate to be clever that you're saying things that just don't make any sense.
[–]AlarmedBasis7671 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was trying to make it more “fun” I understand what you mean though I’ll try to work on it
[–]TopBlacksmith160 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hes right Its hard to admit we put too much thought into this stuff and girls love guys who give off an authentic idgaf vibe. I recently had a convo with a chick on reddit that i will link so you can see
https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/s2n90g/im_uncertain_about_my_feelings_help/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
[–]AlarmedBasis7671 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What I’m struggling with is: being authentic and real with my thoughts all while being conscious of improving my game (teasing, push pull, qualifying, …)
[–]TopBlacksmith160 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The real truth is Get out more and look for girls giving you fuck me eyes Approach and follow your own flow Let loose and just say the least amount possible Find girls you actually flow with Dont waste time on those who force u to go against the current
[–]BagEmpty6931 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Maybe:
Her: I'm so bored please entertain me.
Me: Come over to my house, well eat something and listen to the music.
Idea: entertaining over text leads nowhere.
[–]AlarmedBasis7671 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Any idea how I can continue this smoothly?
[–]StealthyRobot 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
By her coming over and hanging out
Thought about that but that’s not currently possible for some reasons. We planned to meet soon though.
[–]WolfKina 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
As someone said, you are being a try hard. Give it a couple o days off, see if she comes talk to you. If she comes, great, you know she's chasing you. If she don't, no harm done, you will still be in the same situation, and can restart the conversation on another topic.
Anyway, the more important thing is to not put much effort right now if she is not reciprocating.
Makes sense, thank you for taking the time to reply. But how do I improve my game if I don’t try to improve my game? Just focusing on not giving a fuck isn’t magic.
[–]WolfKina 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Knowing when to stop and give space is also part of the game, my friend. If you are too eager, chances are you'll scare the girls. Corey Wayne, in the 3% Man book, also said something about "two steps forward, one step back" to create anticipation and letting the girl wanting more. It's also important to build your patience, which is a great skill to have in life.
Anyway, I think you are doing good. Just don't get too caught in only one girl if you aren't in a relationship.
[–]Reichka 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Are you a dog? You do tricks on command?
What are you trying to achieve with your comment?
[–]Reichka 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Emphasis of the subtextual conversation.
[–]TempAcc64 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Move on.
[–]Sensitive-Permit-877 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Using ur instead of you're is fucked
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[–]Anarelion 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ignore the top level comment. People that talk like that are not worth your time.
[–]tmankam 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read this guys post history. You’ve got nothing to learn from this Incel OP.
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[–]grzechoo177 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No offence bruh, but unless she’s a very specific person this seems to me like she’s only answering you to not be rude. Obviously it’s only based on a few messagea so i could be completely wrong, but trying to make her say that she likes you… It just seems for me like she was trying to find polite way to not say it.
Plus the phrase ‘entertain me’… I mean in most cases i would find that a bit rude, it shows that she doesn’t feel like you are in the same league. Apart from some kind of inside jokes, i can’t even think of a single situation or person that i could tell that phrase and not seem rude or distant. Seems like she’s looking down on you (she’s the pretty lady who just happen to not have anything better to do than texting you, so you owe her just for even talking to you).
I don’t have a advice, because as i said it’s just a few messages, but i would consider that she’s not that into you bro. Either way good luck on that one and never sell yourself short. No matter who she is, if she thinks she’s better than you then she’s not worth your time.
Thank you for your comment. Though I’m confident that she’s into me, she flirts with me frequently. And she is the one that initiates conversation most of the time. I think the “entertain me” is an attempt to make conversation from her. She could easily stop initiating if she thinks I’m out of her league. I think I’m fairly attractive myself but I’m not confident in my game.
This has been an issue for me on multiple occasions. Really able to attract at first, but once we’re talking the attraction just goes away and it’s what I would consider “boring.”
Again, I appreciate your comment bro.
[–]grzechoo177 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, as i said my thoughts were based on a 5 messages, so i could be wrong. Well on that case… The best you (and everyone else) could do is stop texting. But i don’t mean stop texting that particular girl, just instead of being connected 24/7, just let each other wait a little and reduce the time u spend together online in exchange to spend time out there, walks, dates whatever. I think, with all the possibilities that internet is giving us, or i mean the ‚digital’ world in general, it also takes something from us in exchange. I personally would kill to get to meet a girl and pick her up and shit the way my dad met my mum. No texts, no insta, no facebook, no whatsapp. Just two people who wanted to meet each other. I guess i’m off the topic, but maybe there is something in what i just said.
Yet again, good luck man and if she’s worth it i hope you’ll both be the perfect entertainment for each ogher.
[–]AnAngelOfVengeance 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
yeah, you are trying too hard to set a screening frame, this is a big mistake lots of intermediate gamers make. ‘I’m gonna make her prove herself to ME, I’m the prize’. It doesn’t work. Actually the best way to do that is to just to be nice to them, the thing a popular, socially well adjusted guy would do to anyone they didn’t really like. Aka curving. Same thing with saying ‘you do you’…it sounds too much like you are trying to be the prize, like you are more likely than her to next them first. You actually want that to be the case, but it has to be ultra subtle, so subtle that the best way to show that is again, to just be nice to them. It gets communicated by other things, like how you take longer to reply than her, how you write less words than her, how you never try to prove yourself, etc… that shows you are the prize, and then you just kinda be nice and qualify her from there. As you become advanced, you will find yourself actually becoming more and more like the ‘nice guys’. As you’re game gets tight, it’s like you are celebrity…celebrities are usually nice to everyone simply bc they are so certain in their status that even if some random Joe tried to ‘next’ them first, they would allow it bc they know they are really nexting themselves. They’d be nice and say ‘I hope you have a great day’. And that would cut worse than any other comeback.
Wow that’s the first time I hear about approaching it that way. This does make a lot of sense though.
However, don’t you think it would be a bad idea to focus on just one thing? This sounds a lot like a “magic formula.” I’m genuinely curious how this clicks for you with your whole “game.”
[–]AnAngelOfVengeance 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s all about being cooler than the girl. Chicks are attracted to guys who are cooler than them, and cooler than most other guys. What do cool people do? Well, wannabe cool people do this by trying to make people ‘earn’ their acceptance, aka the ‘mean girls’ strategy. ‘Are you good enough for me…I’m super exclusive, I only hang out with the best, you need to earn me’. That doesn’t work, it’s just not cool, it just creates a frame-war that doesn’t get guys laid. Instead , be actually cool. What do cool guys do? They make everyone else feel cooler. They are inclusive, not exclusive. They are so fucking cool that they never feel like they are giving away their coolness by making others feel cooler, they have an infinite supply. This is why I say that advanced game is more like nice guy game. It’s just that instead of validating her to change her opinion of you and make her like you, you are validating her to let her know she is impressing you. You rarely disapprove, you show your disapproval by creating distance, not responding, etc… That’s basically the best description I can give for how the total game works imo. Be cooler than her, make her feel cooler for being around you, then just justify your attraction for her based on specific personality qualities she has that only you can see. Works like gold.
[–]axe122 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your not really challenging her or putting her on the spot to respond to something you said. Shes more the one challenging you and your tryna twist it into wit but your not pushing her back enpugh.
Fair point. Can you give me examples on what exactly you would consider “challenging her”?
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Ah shit i Couldn't read it got removed :/
[–]AlarmedBasis7671 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I can’t figure out which comment ur talking about. What did I say that u were replying to?
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This whole post lol
[–]AlarmedBasis7671 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The post wasn’t removed
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