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[–][deleted] 75 points76 points77 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Feminism has affected every single man born into a Western society.
[–]Exmerus 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Modern social media gave women tons of power over the average men. Do or say something that a woman interprets as "harrasment" and be ready to get roasted online and screw your dating life. And let's not start talking about how social media gives women access to "better" options than their average high school boyfriend Joe from Alabama.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Not only that, but the court system almost always sides with the woman. Men are consequently punished.
[–]Exmerus 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well, sexual attack accusations are different. I'm talking about texting/verbal misunderstandings where the woman didn't like what the man said or didn't get a clear joke, then procceed to roast them online as a harrasser/weirdo. Happened to a couple friends last year, women in my city started to roast their "offenders" on Instagram/FB/Twitter, and some good guys got splashed for absolutely no reason lol
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was referring to instances of divorce and child custody. The man is always fucked by the system.
[–]Exmerus -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, sure. Totally.
[–]plutomars1 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I said this exact same thing on a previous account and got down-voted so hard lol
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m getting downvoted now lol
[–]suburbanite 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Thank fucking god.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Weak men create hard times…
You want that for the society we live in — a bunch of weak, feminized men? But that goes against the laws of nature, so explain your reasoning, please.
[–]jackzander 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Men obsessed with 'weakness' and 'strength' can safely be assumed to be a nuisance to society and whoever they entangle themselves with.
Fussing over how you are perceived is an expression of untreated anxiety.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
So a group of low testosterone effeminate men will produce the exact same outcome as a group of high testosterone masculine men?
[–]jackzander 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Of course not. They'll like produce better, more stable, carefully considered results.
Men obsessed with masculinity are the lowest rung of the social and sexual ladders. Ya'll are just clickbait for youtube channels.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, you’re incorrect and grossly uninformed.
[–]jackzander 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can hear your ancestors booing you from here.
[–]suburbanite 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Honey, who hurt you?
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Kys.
[–]suburbanite -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Awww, pobrecito
[–]systemadvisory 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Confident men will do better than those who are worried about not being good enough. Your testosterone levels don't mean shit except for how much of a boner you get and how much you get bald.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not true at all, lmfao. Above average levels of testosterone is associated with all types of positive health benefits. Read about it.
You may be too young and inexperienced to realize this, but strength and success come from those around us. Feminism is about bringing all of us up together, and the net result of more humans being more empowered is that we are all more successful; the strong and successful among us even more so.
Weak men fear the life experience and success of others. Strong men, like strong women, revel in the success of others.
[–]SgtSplacker 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's ok to be sexual. Drop a gentle hint and take it from there. Innuendo is your friend.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wait until you realize that women are bigger perverts than you are and they are even more fucked by social conditioning.
[–]dreameater42 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
you're probably right. I can tell you're a total pussy just by this post
[–]AtCloseRange94 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol thank you was thinking the same thing, who cares if some girl calls you a fuckboy? Just laugh that shit off
[–]straffingmachine 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are one night stands still a thing?
[–]mrcloso 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You should spend some time on r/sex and see how women relate to their own sexuality and their expectations of men's behavior.
Feminism is bullshit, women are already allowed to do anything they want and pursue any lifestyle they feel so, which is correct. Modern feminism is a power play, not a social rights movement. It forces women to adopt certain beliefs that benefit specific political groups.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I feel guilty about masturbation and sex and flirtin. And most women tell me it’s bad to do cold approaches. So yeah the more toxic extremist parts of feminism really fuck wit my head
[–]AtCloseRange94 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who cares if some chick calls you a fuckboy? Don’t give women that kind of power over you.
[–]McWhiters9511 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. It's turned relationships into a me me me instead of letting go of selfish desires and coming together for something greater. This goes for both women and guys. Women are struggling to tie a man down and offer what men actually want. And too many men are focused of keeping self images good so they don't break out of their self absorbed please others to make me feel ok shells.
[–]kerouacs 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
I’ll be honest - someone who doesn’t identify as a feminist is a red flag, as a friend, as a potential lover, as someone I might introduce to someone.
Feminism is a political movement with clear goals (reproductive freedom, pay equity, preventing domestic violence) that gets conflated by messy cultural messaging. It’s a big enough word that everyone in this thread is basically talking about something different.
Some guys hear women complain about predatory behaviour and compare that to their own experiences with women and think that any expression of sexuality is the problem. But it’s a nuanced thing, sexuality. Learn active consent and with time, confidence in how you’re being perceived and this should be a fairly intuitive thing
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[–]kerouacs 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think everyone agrees with the intended goals of feminism.
I think my downvotes and the comments in this thread say otherwise.
Not really how I’ve engaged with it but interesting thoughts! Have an example?
[–]BlackDevil8 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel the same. There's just a thin line of difference between being playful and being a creep. Moreover that line is different for every women. I would rather be on the safer side and not initiate such sexual things, than take the risk of being intimate with a woman not knowing her boundaries.
[–]Fluffy_Risk9955 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup women push narratives in society to protect themselves. If a woman can't raise a kid without the presence of a man they're forced to get married. If she's bother by f*ck boys a lot narratives are pushed that are against men becoming sexual with women.
Once you see through the bullshit and go after what you really want, they're more likely to give it to you.
[–]Waferet -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel sorry for Young boys that will grow to men they have been raised with this society while we been watching. My priority as man is to build my boys to be men as I was thought and FYI I’ve been raised to be a man of a leader
[–]CompetitionFair7686 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes feminismo has made men become weak feminine pussies. The destruction of testosterone only causes you to be weak and un atractivo to women.
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Reality has a left wing bias
[–]ecologamer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel the same way… I feel like I can count a number of times where there was probably an opportunity, but I didn’t feel right by it, so I let the sexual tension die. One particular time was because she was drunk and I had no idea how drunk she was.
I think that we have the ability to initiate it, but it is a fine line between being a fuck boy and being genuinely interested in having a sexual relationship with someone.
Unfortunately for me, I haven’t been able to get to that point with anybody where it may become sexual in around 5 years now. Constantly moving around for jobs makes it harder and this pandemic certainly didn’t do me any favors. Good luck out there
[–]ItIsICoachCal 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is this what this sub is for? Sitting around complaining about "feminism" (who can forget when Gloria Steinem coined the term 'fuckboi' afterall...), and acting like it's the one thing in your way of getting laid?
I put the flair as inner game. This was part of where I fell short on my inner game , I'm sure other men feel the same way as me. Nobody has said this is everything standing in their way, just one thing that some men put in their own way...
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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Well to be honest you seem like kind of an asshole so I don't blame them
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Fuck off
Pure projection lol
[–]GroundbreakingBus138 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminism is evil bull shit
[–]RobertChardonnay -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for identifying as a feminist. As a person, it’s okay for you to ask for what you want. And I think your instincts to put the woman first are good.
[–]systemadvisory -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Everyone in this thread is a joke. Feminism isn't the cause of your problems. Feminism is just a concept like 'healthy'.
Women aren't going for you because you don't escalate or aren't being attractive. If you act like a creep then people will see you as a creep. Has nothing to do with the concept of 'feminism'.
Stop looking for external forces to blame for your shortcomings and ask what you can do to improve your attractiveness as a person. Don't fall into that red p1ll bullshit that there is some kind of conspiracy against you.
A concept that breeds certain ideas that can manifest into a paradigm. And some of those paradigms have caused me to make mistakes in my life. I agree that most people in this thread are mistaking my intentions
[–]Blackmetalpenguin90 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"I think some aspects of feminism have had a negative effect on me and other men"
Is that sarcasm?
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