Holy crap, being social is expensive! Looking for guidance how to navigate girls and money [recovered]

UoAPUA · 2017-03-05T02:36:01+00:00

I'll tell you one thing, it's not attractive to them that you cover for them. Stop doing that. They're adults, they can pay their own cover charges. It's 2017, most places take card. If they don't, bounce to the next venue that doesn't have a cover. As for your money problems, do you have a job? If not, you'll want to get one. If you need suggestions of good flexible places to work, I can give some. Also, how's the game going for you? If i spend $50 on a night out, I'm getting numbers. If I get numbers, I'm going on dates (sometimes free). If I'm going on dates, I'm getting laid. So I might go out and spend $50 for some numbers, but the next few weekends are not costly because I'm advancing the relationships. Clubs and bars aren't the only places to take a date, they're not the only places to have fun, and they're not the only places to game. Take your dates to do other fun stuff, and try getting numbers at parties, bookshop, coffee shops, grocery stores, etc.

Pics0rItDidntHapp3n · 2017-03-05T07:32:41+00:00

You need to do some homework. First find out where and when the happy hours and specials are in your town. Put them in your calendar on your phone, it can get confusing as the list stacks up. You need to find networking events, fundraisers, meetup groups women attend, etc. These events have free drinks plus you'll network like a motherfucker and maybe get a better job. Pull the women from these events and take them to the spots on your list. You can do that all week long relatively cheap as most people can't stay out late running up a tab on a work night. Next, find out about house parties or free events on the weekends. Take the women from the weekday events to the free weekend events. You'll save shit tons of loot. If you're a heavy drinker, buy a small bottle of booze to fit in your coat or back pocket, order 1 drink, top off in the bathroom very discreetly. There's a lot more tricks I can't think of right now but I hit a rough spot after the recession and went from a high paying job to budget baller very quickly. That's how I made it through the dry spell. I can't stress the after work networking groups enough. Wear a blazer or collared shirt at the very least. It's fish in a barrel at those things.

speakstupidto-me · 2017-03-05T06:05:59+00:00

So true, I'm a girl and I've absolutely overheard other girls say things like "A date is free food!" or "Let's find a guy to buy us drinks" and it makes me so mad. One guy friend said he went to a club, a girl came up and started dancing with him. A bit later, she asks if he wants to go get a drink, and when they get there she pretty much tells him he should get it for her. This guy is SWEET and dopey as hell , so he's like, cool yeah I'll get it for her we've been dancing for a bit.

She gets the drink and (you all know where this is going) she turns to him when he tries to ask her about herself like what school she's at/what's she's studying/GENERAL CONVERSATION and she goes "oh, I just wanted a drink from you, I'm going back to my friends now bye". My guy friends not a bad looking guy, but because things like this have happened to him MULTIPLE times because he's nice, it's made him so wary of going out and meeting girls. I sympathize with him.

So yeah girls who "forget" money or try to play you for it is not a cute look at all. There's a difference between "forgetting" and physically just not carrying cash with you and so you could buy the person a drink or venmo them the money back. It's modern day, venmo is exactly for this purpose.

greenidiot314 · 2017-03-05T06:44:14+00:00

Don't get in the habit of covering for a girl, even as little as $5. I had a friend once who didn't have a job, but she had no problem bugging people to buy her things like she was a little princess. One day it's a meal, the next day it's coffee, next it will be shoes and jewelry and you won't even be dating. She could just consider you a nice friend and you've wasted all that money thinking she will like you more, but can still just cut off all contact with you like a normal relationship but you can't do the same to your creditors.

Woujo · 2017-03-05T15:33:11+00:00

Something else I've noticed is girls often times "forget" to bring cash to cover themselves to clubs or events. It's like okay we're here but she's not getting in unless I pay.

This is what you do: you say "Ok bye, I hope you have fun in whatever you do." And go into the club. I guarantee that most girls will then "find" some money somehow. And if they don't, they will beg you to hang out with them at some other club that doesn't have a cover. If she doesn't want to hang out with you because you wouldn't pay her cover, guess what, she never liked you in the first place. A woman will move mountains to be with the guy she likes, so $5 shouldn't affect anything.

That is extremely attractive to a girl, and incredibly hard for most guys to understand and do, both intellectually and emotionally.

Let me explain: if you're a hot girl, you don't have much power in this world, like most people. You don't have much money, you don't have much power, you're not famous, etc... All you have is your looks, which aren't that valuable in of themselves because they are temporary and mostly fake. And a lot of girls are hot.

But their looks give them SOME power, which they use to their advantage. They get guys to buy them stuff, get them in clubs, hang out in cool places, do cool things, etc... And make no mistake, girls know that they are getting these things solely because of their looks because they have done nothing else to deserve these things. You're not paying her cover because you love her soul or anything.

Women also realize that they can get bend guy's wills to them solely by using their looks. They can make men do errands, buy them things, agree when they say stupid shit, etc... And they quickly realize that the more loserish guys are more willing to buy them things.

The most attractive thing you can do is say "no" when a girl asks you to pay because it sets you apart from the loser guys. It says to the girl "I'm not a pushover, I'm not desperate, and I will only interact with you as an equal adult, not as a supplicant." It also makes her think and feel like you have other girls in the mix, so her looks aren't as valuable.

Not paying is VERY HARD. I consider myself advanced and I still pay for girls sometimes because I just emotional and caught in the moment. But I can guarantee that it almost always makes them less attracted when you pay.

zomgitsduke · 2017-03-05T12:05:44+00:00

Your attractiveness to a woman shouldn't be changed by how you spend your money.

Here's the big thing: your mentality determines how successful this will be. If a girl asks you to cover her, you can respond with "only if you help me find the hottest girl at the bar to come home with me". People often compete for "control" over the situation, and it will catch them off guard if you turn their attempt at control on its head. This puts you in Outcome Independence mode, and makes her second guess if you're even interested in her. Maybe you're using her to jump to a hotter girl? Maybe she's being played the whole time? Wedge your way into that insecurity and exploit it.

This works on everyone, not just women.

Oh, and if a girl "forgets" her money, a quick joke about her being the designated driver breaks any tension.

raimondi1337 · 2017-03-05T13:24:12+00:00

Yeah, going out is expensive. The only time I'll ever pay for a girl is if I know I'm going to get it back immediately. No cash for the cover? That's cool, just put the first round of drinks on your card.

Moldy_Gecko · 2017-03-05T19:03:24+00:00

They do the I forgot cash thing to weed out chumps. Cheapest way, stick to social media and dating sites. If you want to do daygame or something, don't offer dinner or a club. My typical first date is meet at sbucks, walk to the arcade, play them Mario Kart and this scary ass 3d game, grab a quick, cheap bite before I tale them to the bar right under my apt. I usually split all but drinks, typically, I spend around 20-30 and that's the fancy date. Alternative is I teach them skateboarding and a walk on the beach before the bar.

jwils007 · 2017-03-05T02:27:47+00:00

Do day game and/or net game. Much cheaper. And IMO don't spend mroe than $10 on a girl before you've fucked her.

sconosciuto1 · 2017-03-05T04:55:59+00:00

I've covered already 3 girls in the span of a month.

Did they at least give you some pussy?

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Title	Holy crap, being social is expensive! Looking for guidance how to navigate girls and money [recovered]
Author	throwitawayagainyay [recovered]
Upvotes	39
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Date	March 5, 2017 1:25 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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