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[–]throwawaybeginner 41 points42 points43 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
That's really cool that you did that man! I remember I met this super cute girl at Optometrist office way back before I got into pickup and I just blatantly flirted with her the whole time. I kicked myself for not at least trying to close her so its cool you tried.
Only thing you have to remember is that she's a hired gun, so she's essentially paid to be nice and flirt with you her paycheck literally depends on it. Plus you can only meet at most one maybe cute girl everytime you go out to eat. If you want to get more chances at "yes" responses you need to get a more dependable access to meeting girls and you'll be golden.
[–]jheezecheezewheeze 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
What would be a more dependable access?
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cold approaches wherever you go, and hobbies (sports, yoga etc)
[–]Rendedpuppy 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Streets
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly what you just did but like everywhere.
[–]throwawaybeginner 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't agree that daygame is dependable access. I think you have to go out to clubs bars every weekend (thurs/fri/sat/sun) if you want to really improve your access.
To give an actual example: I went out for 5 hours of daygame on Saturday and did 6 approaches and got 2 flaky numbers. In comparison, last night I went out for 5 hours in the club and did 20 approaches, got 10+ flaky numbers, 1 solid number close for a date and also got 1 girl back to my condo same night. I'm very new so my game isn't great yet, but that just goes to show you how shitty the accessibility of daygame is and how much better nightgame is in comparison.
[–]johnnywannabepua 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Man, how do you do 5 hours of game and only approach 6 times?
[–]throwawaybeginner 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I did daygame at a mall and there aren't a lot of sets, how many sets do you approach during daygame? I also went out with a wing so we were switching off sets.
[–]dailymanup 71 points72 points73 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Just wanted to throw in a follow up. I thought of a line I've used before when a situation like this occurs. When she uses the "if I didn't have a boyfriend, I totally would" line.
Sometimes I've basically said this:
"OK, totally cool. I understand. But I'll make you a deal. I'll write MY number down on that receipt, and you just tuck that away somewhere for safekeeping.
(then, before she says anything): "Now look. I totally wish you and your boyfriend the best things in the world. Frankly, I hope you get married and have like 50 children and a house and a farm and all that stuff." (usually you get a blush/smile on that one).
"BUT!.....but, if for some reason. Whatever reason. Things don't work out. You give me a call, and we'll see if we can make something happen."
So, how well does this work? I'd say that this works about 50/50. 50% of the time she'll smile, and say OK. You write your number. Thank her for the great service. And that's the end of it.
And how may times has this panned out for me? ONCE. Just one time I got a call, a few months later. And she was a rocking good time that I spent 6 months banging. And you all know how the first 6 months goes...
So, it's a low probability move. But what do you have to lose? Even if it only works once in your life, you'll be happy. :-)
[–]Orgasmo3000 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Brilliant advice. I'm actually going to try that.
I once gave a waitress my number & a 60% tip. She never called, but when I went back to the restaurant several months later, she had been promoted to manager, and she still remembered me. Maybe if I would have tried your method, it would have worked.
Here, have some gold on me.
[–]ethical_pa 22 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I once gave a waitress my number & a 60% tip. Here, have some gold on me.
I once gave a waitress my number & a 60% tip.
Dude, stop throwing your money around at everyone :P
[–]Orgasmo3000 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
😂 Hey, when you've got it; flaunt it, right?
[–]AtomicKush 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Atta boy
[–]dailymanup 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks Man for the comment and the gold! Give this one a try next time. You never know what might happen...and you've got nothing to lose!
[–]ethical_pa 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Once in how many times? I like this attitude. Always. Be. Closing. I really like it overall, but I'm wondering if there's a way to tweak this a bit to get better results.
You've got a statement of empathy, emotional spike (joke), and the proposition. I'm wondering if you could get some sort of investment on her part. Like a way to make her think she worked for your number a little bit. Even if it's some sort of token gesture.
[–]dailymanup 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the comment man! I'll think about that and see if I can come up with something good.
[–]FUCK_YEA_GLITTER 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sweet. This would only work if you delivered this line right, however.
[–]lazy784 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Any line only works if you deliver it right lol
Totally agree. You have to deliver things with indifference and confidence. The actual words you say don't really matter. If girl views a guy as totally alpha and she's totally attracted to him, he can basically say anything and she'll be hooked on him. Nonverbal is way more important than verbal.
[–]judahman8 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I always like to go ultra unapologetic and bold. Some of my favs are
"Where is he? I challenge him to a duel. Here I'll leave you my number and we'll set a date, you know for the duel."
"Oh yeah I know, don't worry tho he said it was cool. Pretty nice guy"
"What If I told that I had a much much bigger... personality"
"Oh no this is a misunderstanding, I want your number not your boyfriends number, that would be weird"
"That's cool, numbers are overrated anyways, add me on snapchat instead."
Thanks for the comment man! Those are funny. #4 especially made me laugh. I might try that one sometime.
[–]intercitty 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These are persisent responses. Why the down votes?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eh. I'm not a fan of this move personally. To me it feels a bit scummy, no offense intended. Just not something that I feel would line up with my own morals.
[–]Zormut 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's cheesy as hell dude
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Did she continue to flirt after you'd paid a tip?
[–][deleted] 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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She wants more than the tip then dawg. Go all in
[–]plowzedong 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nice job. You won't get to a yes without encountering nos on the way. Don't stop, practice consistently and reflect on what has worked and where you can improve.
Totally agree man! Thanks for the comment.
[–]LimitedContributor 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It feels really spectacular once you leave the shell for the first time, to.
Agree man! Anyone who's stuck with getting started...literally just try anything. You'll feel great even if you get rejected!
[–]creamyturtle 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wait so what's the line about the top of the deck? inquiring minds need to know
[–]txroller 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
glad you are getting your confidence. So, just some advice it's Service Industry people's job to be nice. Let them make the first move next time
[–]dailymanup 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is awesome man! It made me smile to see that you used that line and it basically worked. (that line works all the time). The fact that she came back and talked to you after you paid tells me she probably is with another dude. But man if she wasn't...I think she'd be all over you. Keep it up man that is really awesome. BTW, here is my post with the waitress/tip/check story at the bottom for any readers that haven't seen it. Also the Fuck It post -- a true classic when you're getting started. Thanks for coming back on the sub and telling the story of how it went!
[–]mththmhtm 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I used the same line that I read in here
Mind sharing the link man?
Hey Man! The story is at the bottom of this post.
[–]Vibez__ -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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