Is seduction 80% attitude and 20% locks, or reverse?

sassenach_JAMMF_38 · 2021-01-28T17:57:39+00:00

If an attractive man can't carry an intelligent conversation or is too self involved he can't seduce me. I'm not interested in school boy charm alone. Been there, married that; never again.

FaceInTheSpace · 2021-01-28T14:00:08+00:00

The lockpicking lawyer would say it's 100% locks 😉

WeakEmu8 · 2021-01-28T13:34:18+00:00

Everything in life is 80% attitude/personality.

TheAncapOne · 2021-01-28T16:10:02+00:00

My question would be, do you handicap yourself, by not doing, all you can to "game"?

You're absolutely handicapping yourself, especially if your goals are casual sex with very attractive women. Women have physical desires, just like men.

How many attractive women do you see with unattractive men (especially in a casual sex context)? The most attractive women can basically choose any guy they want to have sex with, why would they not choose only from attractive guys?

There are 2 Levels of Attraction (Attraction vs Lust)

Why Losing Fat Matters Above All Else for Getting Laid

Desperate-Gur-5730 · 2021-01-28T20:07:41+00:00

Attitude/personality. A couple years ago I was at a bar with some buddies, and I saw a smoking hot pseudo cowgirl (straight out of Warrant’s “Cherry Pie” video) dancing. I lazily on/off watched and gave a look.

I didn’t know going to a bar was part of the evening, so I wore a Kermit shirt, khaki cargo shorts and Sketchers sandals (+bug spray). A few buddies nodded they were going out for a smoke, sounded good. I passed her on my way out, smiling, leaned closer, and said “I don’t know how to dance, but you sure do!” She replied “It’s easy, I’ll teach you!” With her devastating eyes and smile, she took my hand... I’ll sum up by saying if not for pants in the way, we’d have made a baby right there. EVERY man in this packed bar with their fancy chains and shirts and was watching, trying to cut-in; she shut them all down and stayed with me... the rest of the night and far after was amazing, and all the hustling G’s were nodding their respect to the guy in the Kermit shirt & bugspray...

I don’t know or use or practice “lines”. I tend to say whatever comes to mind in the moment. Always respectful, always fun, and just the right partial-squint look in my eyes and sly smile.

“Cherry Pie” music video girl without even trying- most importantly, without being fake.

Desperate-Gur-5730 · 2021-01-28T13:35:39+00:00

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revente · 2021-01-28T15:31:53+00:00

Online dating 95% looks

Real life its

Looks>Confidence/Body language>Money/Status>>>>Words.

If you have the best game but are mediocre you'll still fail competing against model like dude with okayish game.

lawcontor1 · 2021-01-28T20:26:40+00:00

For me, an older male, it’s mostly brains then sensuality....

laggerzback · 2021-01-28T16:10:04+00:00

I wouldn’t say 80/20. You have to find out what you can work with and be confident about it.

I knew a guy that basically made girls melt like butter simply using his voice. And he was pretty average looking. Looks can help, but ultimately it’s what you can sell and how charismatic you are

TheEndTrend · 2021-01-28T19:58:11+00:00

As a former beta blue-pill dude, I have to think that physical attraction is at least 50% for women. God knows I didn’t have great game, but I still got laid plenty, so I must be attractive, haha

2021-01-28T18:01:42+00:00

Personality absolutely is critical yet Idk I've gotten the feeling looks matter more than you think based on my failed experiences, I've had girls who liked me but I never was super popular when I lacked self awareness of how bad I looked, I'm working on my look. Getting closer tho.

For the in demand girls i think you need big dick energy tbh these days or at least something that sets you apart & I think looking good helps at least with girls under 27 I'm almost 27 but I still wanna go for younger girls because I still look younger than I am and can get away with it which is a good thing, go figure lol

Desperate-Gur-5730 · 2021-01-28T20:36:03+00:00

If there’s a Kelly Kapowski factory out there, I wouldn’t say no to a tour. Don’t just look for “hot couples”, look for “happy couples”, because they’re actually getting it right!

l3rannon · 2021-01-29T00:09:02+00:00

I would say it varies on different people. I'd say it's more 50/50. If you don't have the looks that person likes then you have a near 0% chance. There's some circumstances where personality wins over looks... Rarely. There's been a couple times personally.... Where I didn't initially find someone attractive physically until I started talking to them. I eventually started getting attracted to them once I got to know them.

JawJX · 2021-01-29T03:01:39+00:00

I have a friend who is skinny, not fit at all, looks like a nerd, not filthy rich, but he always hangs out with a lot of girls, very funny , charismatic, intelligent, confident. I may be more good looking than him but he wins at all those other traits. And that's all the girls give him attention and want to be around him.

scoteeho · 2021-01-29T04:42:34+00:00

If you show me kindness, an intelligent in-depth conversation, emapthic and a caring nature, those in itself is what I regard as attractive rather than just what is on the outside.

2021-01-29T07:05:22+00:00

It's 50% you, 50% her.

recyclablebanthas · 2021-02-06T16:03:52+00:00

If you look ok, not the best not the worst, and you do cold approach, is the attitude, that counts the most?

Get a bunch of dudes in a room. Ask them what their 10s are. There's going to be a lack of consensus. One dude's 10 will be another dude's 7 or 6.

And it's the same with women's taste in men.

Much of what's considered "attractive" is subjective.

This makes it problematic to try to pin down what "okay" looks are. What is, "okay," "best," or "worst" varies according to personal taste.

This is precisely why attitude and confidence can make a huge difference.

But at the end of the day, all you can do is maximize your chances. A girl might be into you, or she might not. It boils down to her personal tastes and whether the guy shoots himself down by assuming she's not interested.

I was thinking, a little bit more exercise won't hurt. The problem is, I don't like going to the gym for "personal reasons".

Being vague doesn't help when you're asking for help.

What reasons do you have?

My question would be, do you handicap yourself, by not doing, all you can to "game"?

Going to the gym or not will affect which demographic of women are into you. It doesn't determine whether any women would be interested. Some like a fit guy, and others don't care as long as you aren't a complete slob.

Title	Is seduction 80% attitude and 20% locks, or reverse?
Author	zllzlla
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Date	January 28, 2021 1:14 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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