What is the next level for me?

TRTGymBroXXX · 2024-06-19T20:20:15+00:00

Here is my take on this as someone who has approached hundreds of women and fell for the whole pick up bullshit.

You have to understand that going out for the purpose of approaching women on the street is inherently extremely needy. Let’s be honest here. What does it say about you? I will give you a hint:

I don’t have a life. I don’t have any friends who can introduce me to women. I am so desperate for female contact that I have to resort to the least effective method of meeting women ever. I am so desperate for a woman, that I will take any woman who gives me her number because I told her a pickup line. No woman is truly special for me, because my standards are so low, I will take anything with a vagina that is remotely attractive.

Now, think about what the life of a normal guy who had an abundance of women would look like. If he was dating a girl that his friends introduce him to and a girl he met online on Hinge, would he need to go out on the streets and spend hours harassing girls? If he was confident and attractive, do you think he would have to resort to cold approaching? If he could meet girls in his social circle, would he need to be doing pick up like a weirdo?

I want you to put your ego aside along with what all pua coaches have been telling you and understand that going out to pick up girls and approaching randomly is so inherently needy and weird, that it’s surprising any girls even stop to talk to you.

Here is another scenario I want you to imagine. Imagine that you do out and hang out on a street corner for 4 hours and approach 49 girls and girl number 50 decides to give you her phone number. You call her, go out and a date and start dating. She invites you to meet her friends and her friends ask you: “so how did you guys meet?” And your new girlfriend say “yeah, Bob, how did we meet? I actually never asked you what you were doing on that street corner the day you stopped me?”

So you decide to be truthful and so you say: “You see, in reality I’m a very lonely guy who hasn’t had a girlfriend in years. I was so desperate to meet someone that I would go and hang out on that street corner almost every day approaching random women who seemed kind of cute. The day we met, you were actually the 50th girl I approached and the only one who gave me a number and went out with me.”

Oh wow! Think for a second! Do you think your new girlfriend would be amused and proud of you? Do you think she will like that you only spoke to her because you were desperate and you were approaching hundreds of women before? Don’t think she would think “wow what a cool guy that I am dating!”?

I think it’s pretty safe to assume none of these things will happen and that on the opposite, she will think you are a weird, desperate loser. Because, let’s face it, you kind of are, otherwise you would not resort to such desperate measures.

The reason I’m ranting about this is that I want guys to stop doing this random approaching stuff and feel proud that they did it. The only time it is okay for you to approach randomly is if you are doing with a specific purpose like getting over shyness or social anxiety. Even then, the point is not to actually get a date, but just to get yourself to feel comfortable talking to women.

Some you seem to be beyond shyness and anxiety, I would advise you to take a hard look at your life and figure out what you are trying to overcompensate in your life that is missing. If you don’t have a purpose, hobbies, friends, activities to do, stuff that actually makes you enjoy your life as it is. If you feel that you need a woman/gf in order to have meaning in your life and to be happy, then you need to make drastic changes. You need to create a life that you are proud of WITHOUT women. Women are inconsequential. They are there for you to have fun when you have the time.

Your ultimate goal in life should never be women. It should be your purpose in life. What you are pursuing. Whether it’s career, music, sport, whatever. Anything BUT women. Women should only be icing on the cake. If you want to increase your chances of meeting a woman, then sure. Go out to places that have the type of women you want. Give them an opportunity to meet you. But don’t pursue them like a desperate loser. Be the guy that enjoys life and is having fun with friends or by himself, who is always walking somewhere with a purpose. This guy will be infinitely more attractive than the desperate loser acccosting women on the street and asking them for phone numbers.

DaygameCode · 2024-06-19T22:11:47+00:00

The guy who said that you have to ask for their name and wait for her to ask yours or else she is not interested, was giving you an extremely simplistic and generally bad advice.

No, a woman asking you the name doesn’t mean she is genuinely interested because a lot of women can ask it to be polite.

A woman not asking right away your name also doesn’t necessarily have to mean she is not interested because a woman can be trying to make sense of what’s happening since she is not used to being cold approaches and thus forgets to ask your name or may be focus on figuring out your intentions first.

I’ll share with you my checklists to get kiss closes and dates from cold approaches during the day

1 - Opener and setting the playful flirty tone right away. Wanna establish myself as a flirt right away to avoid the small talk and NPC vibe.

2 - Accidental physical touch to break the touch barrier organically.

3 - Switch from impersonal to personal topics of conversation where i get her to talk about herself so she can show the type of person she is and we also can build a solid connection

4 - Make sure that we are isolated to set the stage for flirting without “activating” her defences (slut factor)

5 - Express what i find different about her to justify in a solid way my romantic/sexual interest in the next step. (Getting her to believe she is not just another girl of the countless that i might hit on)

6 - Show/express sexual interest by flirting sexually to create sexual tension and avoid being friendzoned.

7 - Intentional physical touch to test the waters about whether she is ready to be kissed and reinforce the flirtation

8 - Kiss close | Nothing sexual just to reinforced that something romantic happened, and that she is loving a fantasy

9 - Phone close | Suggesting a date idea and if she agrees, then take her number

10 - Consolidate after phone close by talking 2 minutes more fantasising out loud about the upcoming date with her and leave.

11 - First text | An inside joke about the encounter to remind her of the emotional mood she was in before i left.

Ideal time length for the approach: 10-15 minutes

Ideal place to approach: Train trip, public parks/beach

Hope it helps, and if it doesn’t skip. This is what works for me.

PS: I can do free zoom session if you DM me where I’ll go into more detail

Wing_Inevitable · 2024-06-19T23:54:22+00:00

First - Daygame is generally harder ( I’m telling you this as the only man that did a 10 for 10 in daygame)

At beginner level a 1% - close rate from the numbers you get is about as good as it will get for years (provided you do constantly practice , read, test , learn to cheat and get good at the skills you use)

As for what you want advice on - I have no idea what you do - so I can’t fix it or tell you what to do next.

BUT getting nothing out of 30 usually means you go in meek(weak or nerdy) - which would probably be the first thing to fix.

Also I PRESUME you are not a complete idiot and don’t approach women from the back - but I will mention it just in case.

Minimum-Building-218 · 2024-06-19T20:03:04+00:00

I was taught you approach a woman by telling them your stopping them because you wanted to tell them they are beautiful. Leading on to asking there name and if they ask yours back its because they are genuinely interested in you so that makes or breaks within 10 seconds of a convo and you either converse or wrap it and move on that way you get your answer and its not so disheartening. Remember finding a match for yourself is 1 in 8/9 billion so get used to the feeling of no this ones not for me.

Title	What is the next level for me?
Author	doshealo1850
Upvotes	1
Comments	13
Date	June 19, 2024 7:48 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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