What zone is this?

YSLMangoManiac · 2024-04-21T06:48:31+00:00

The simp zone. If you not together you shouldn’t be paying for her shit

nightveldor · 2024-04-21T07:01:48+00:00

Money isn’t just money. Money is a sign, it has something that has psychology and other things attached to it. Let's just says there's a woman who is finding herself losing her attraction to a man because he is not making enough money. Because it may be a sign that he doen't have enough ambition/ enough drive in life. It may be not that but it's a kind of turn off to many women, so it's not always about the money, but the lack the money sometimes indicate unconciously somethings missing on a man. Money is also a pretty masculine trait that is pretty seductive.

To be more practical, try to know exactly where your relationship is with her before everything, if you know you will go nowhere with her I don't know why you would continue spending that much money on her.

Idk how long you know her but it's time to be direct and ask her out on a date and be clear it's a date and not just hanging out, she needs to know 100% what your intentions are .

Hope this helps

DependentAd1504 · 2024-04-21T08:02:21+00:00

Well guys This is a CLASSIC case of simp and in deep friendzoned. I'll just answer his questions:

Is there any way of knowing when a guy should pay or when a guy should let the lady pay?

Answer: Ask her out on a proper date first and escalate things over there. You know what they say," A must always pay on the date" on the date not on every fkn meal. Don't me her walking credit card. So stop spending on her completely unless it's a date or guys are together dating or at least in a casual scene.

Should a guy even pay for anything?

Answer: Exactly same as Answer 1.

3.Shall I only pay for things i order not she...

Answer: If she is your date take care of bill, otherwise treat her like bro.

Tip: Flirt with other girls in front of her and take them on a date and spend on the date. However you must stop spending on a girl who is just your friend.

burncushlikewood · 2024-04-21T06:52:49+00:00

Umm what is your financial situation like? Reminds me of that episode of friends when the poorer friends get upset about all their expenses https://youtu.be/avfVD6Par0M?si=uQstKJSzMzaZenL_ Anyways if you're a doctor and she works at McDonald's it's no big deal for you to pay, but if she makes good money...it sounds like you're in the friendzone with this one, it's nice to have female friends, I miss a lot of my previous female friends

Comfortable_Ad_6894 · 2024-04-21T07:08:12+00:00

your 3 question's answer
1. Well there is no way of knowing who should pay, but its interal realization to anyone if its a girl or boy, if they are eating out and someone has to pay. It should come from inside that lets split, and if not if you paid once, then its should be like. let me pay this time (this should be girl thought)
2. No A guy should only pay initially for 1-2 dates (if its date or you have a intrest), and after that you will realize is that girl even persoanlity wise, character wise, intellectual wise good for you? or just enjoyiing you free money.
3. Well then you are too blame for that, why did you order, when she don't want. until she don't say. and from the description what you said. seems like you are jsut paying and showing off your money [dude you are a student]. Even if any girl come for your money rememeber, she won't stay for your good personlity, if you try to show after you impress her with money, she came for money, aand will go for money.

Now my opinion: YOU ARE A SIMP WHO IS LOOTING MONEY ON GIRL. Want to fix situation? try following things
1. Bring in jokes about split and all. you are student right now so its worth a shot, not like earning. so it won't be wrong
2. Learn about her intrest in you, does she only come for enjoy or she really want to spend time but you are busy in investing money
3. And lost and foremost. try to be direct rather than wait for her to show intrest.

Affectionate_Arm_245 · 2024-04-21T15:38:26+00:00

Coffee date should be the 1st date. It’s cheap and you gauge their interest.. if you don’t like them bounce

Affectionate-Ant4888 · 2024-04-21T07:20:58+00:00

read double your dating from davidDAngelo, it's an old ebook, this stuff is in detail there

IGetBoredSometimes23 · 2024-04-21T07:45:58+00:00

Take dates out for coffee the first time. It's inexpensive so if the date goes bad it's no loss.

Fantastic-Life-2024 · 2024-04-21T12:42:39+00:00

An old married guy at work gave me this advice:

If you can't eat it, drink it or fck it it isn't worth having around.

Ok-Shock8867 · 2024-04-21T12:44:45+00:00

Here are my rules of paying, and I have plenty of money to throw around on women. If you're financially strapped, you should be even more serious about these:

(1) Only pay when it's understood by both of you that it's a romantic date

(2) Only pay as long as things are progressing romantically - you're starting to kiss, make out, hook up, connect on a deeper level.

(3) If you aren't progressing the relationship by date 3, switch to splitting.

If you're paying in any other scenario, you're just simping and wasting your financial resources.

Tatleman68 · 2024-04-21T13:23:33+00:00

My friend, in this case [since she is a "friend"], everybody should pay their own shit or you just split everything 50/50. You don't owe her anything. Why doesn't she pay for everything for once?

Based on your story, it looks like she is using you as an ATM mate.

DaygameCode · 2024-04-21T13:58:36+00:00

It’s simple follow traditional gender norms, and you’ll be fine. You are the man so you pay. Doesn’t matter if she is a feminist. You are the one who has control over where to do, making sure you don’t do something expensive, and you are the one who leads. Women don’t want responsibility, so take it yourself. If she insists on her paying half or whatever, let her. But don’t expect her to pay.

Secondly: Bribing her into liking you won’t work. 2 dates is enough for a kiss to happen. If it hasn’t happen, you should move on, because she simply is not gonna be interested in romance and will only continue to go out to get free meals.

You pay, and a kiss and sex should happen by 2 dates.

epimpstyle · 2024-04-21T14:18:29+00:00

I can speak as it is in Romanian culture and tradition, if you are the one who takes them to a place (bar / restaurant), you must be the one who pays.
Already answered.
That's rude AF, I can't even imagine buying a drink just for myself when she's with me.

Just use common sense and you will have the answer to your questions. However, expecting something in return is a big mistake! You can't be that guy: "Let me kiss you because I paid you XXXXX". This concept of not paying for a drink is very old, but many people misunderstand this concept and take it to extremes because they think they are "needy" if they pay, but actually they are needy if they expect something in return, not if they pay because it is polite or they want to pay because they want to.

Spiritual-Fox6141 · 2024-04-21T18:02:12+00:00

First.. You used the word bribe. Bribes are never good. So why would you be satisfied with bribing someone for love? It would never be real or genuine. Secondly, If you want to pay for sex.. There's hookers and escorts for that. But since you think you need to pay or use external resources, you must feel like you're not enough. That's the first thing that needs to be addressed. When you get that together, girls will want to hang with you and even buy your food and drinks. Third. If she's allowing you to do all this for her, with no return, she's not a good woman, nor does she respect you. Women are generally very smart socially. They see a sucker coming before you notice them. Friend zone her. if she asks to go eat , expect her to pay. ALWAYS KEEP ALL INTENTIONS EXPRESSED UPFRONT. Real men don't get"lucky"..

Loose_Profession_630 · 2024-04-21T10:16:43+00:00

Your not being GENUINE...

You playing the George Steinbrenner pay to play game and getting beat by lesser opponents...

Be Genuine and find more women

Title	What zone is this?
Author	ethan_winters404_
Upvotes	1
Comments	21
Date	April 21, 2024 6:40 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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