Why do Pro PUA's still get rejected so much?

crawleydown · 2018-09-22T11:59:23+00:00

When someone posts a FieldReport here and he gets recjected, UNLESS he done something ridiculous, the reply should always be 'She just wasn't into. Next! Keep going, bro. She was a 'no' girl. Most will be!'' b

But instead, he is told he should have went direct (if he went indirect) or he should have went indirect (if he went direct) or he should have asked better questions (if he asked her something like what she does for fun, or her job) or he should have asked her more normal/interview questions (if he asked her something a bit unusual to try to spike her emotions) etc etc. Always trying to force a 'reason' for his rejection un der the umbrella of 'game'

It's all a massive game of hindsight bias which perpetuates the confusion.

Fact is, it's basically always out of your control

One_Insanity · 2018-09-22T11:50:48+00:00

You answered your own question. Group N1 is just lying.

It's not all about game. If you're not as good looking you're at an objective disadvantage.

I mean just think about it. Look at us, men. We want pretty girls with fit bodies, big tits and nice asses. Those things are a sign of good genes to our reptile brain. A reptile brain that girls have as well.

Why would girls be any different? If you think a girl feels the same about a beergut as she feels about a six pack you're an idiot. Just think about sex. Girls obviously would really like a guy with a hard, toned body because it contrasts their soft, delicate skin and drawn curvature of their bodies.

Dick is hard, pussy is soft. Different energies. This is not rocket science. And we're just talking about body because it's the easiest. Faces are a harder thing because it's much more subjective. Even though a good jawline and defined features are a common theme.

Obviously game, personality, confidence, posture and attitude play a big part but you have better chances if you can make her want you on the most primal level. With your looks. With your masculine energy.

guimafelipe · 2018-09-22T10:16:06+00:00

There are a lots of reasons a girl can reject you that arent on tour control. You should focus on things that are in your control and do your best, but if you are black and she is racist, patience.

She can have a boyfriend, she can have physical preferences, she can be in a bad mood today, whatever. But you really cant control it and cant know this informations before

adventureman91 · 2018-09-22T16:22:14+00:00

Because the pro-PUA image is a marketing concept created to sell seminars and products. Plenty of guys get rejected even at the top. Celebrities, "PUAs", everyone. That's the nature of the game. All these different dynamics are taking place and many people just wont align. The big picture goal is to lower the rejection rate through game and status and build up logistics like creating a huge social circle that goes out and having an apartment in a good location for after parties. Create a lifestyle or social circle which allows for a flow of attractive women, hone in on game for communicating and building attraction and good logistics for fucking to take place. PUA isn't some magic voodoo skill where you can go up to any and every woman and magically make her want to sleep with you despite how she is feeling prior, the current logistics of the situation, context, etc. It's a big system with lots of factors that need to be taken into account.

suuupreddit · 2018-09-23T09:04:52+00:00

Because women are still people.

And people have preferences. They like and dislike different things, they find different things funny, charming, atd off putting. As do the instructors.

So they (and hopefully you) approach someone who has one thing you like, looks. The whole game of it is how to best put your personality on display so that those who won't like who you truly are leave quickly, and those who do latch on quickly.

You can try to learn more bland, generally attractive behavior and try suppressing yourself to see if you get more numbers. I remember a video Jeffy posted where he said he's happier with fewer girls who all love who he really is than more who just let him fuck them.

Quality > quantity, especially in what RSD teaches.

But as someone whose previous bad game fucked up a sure thing with more women than he's actually been with, game still matters when she already likes who you are. It matters a lot.

judahman8 · 2018-09-25T23:32:22+00:00

Because most of them just really aren't that good

IdontevenKnow022 · 2018-09-27T10:38:42+00:00

Because this isn't a video game. Women aren't buttons you can just press dude. Also looks matter a lot regardless what anybody tells you. I've gotten so many girls on my looks alone. And I've lost tons of girls on my looks LOL.

K3wp · 2018-09-22T16:57:38+00:00

I saw an infield of the famous 'mystery' where he was getting blown out by hot young college girls! he eventually done well with a girl later on, but she was much older.

I talk about this video all the time.

I live in a college area and when you see a cluster of girls like that, its a 'ladies night out' and most/all have boyfriends. They cluster like that specifically to avoid being hassled by guys and to support their girlfriends if they are.

Now, I mean, its possible to slide in on the side and maybe make some progress with one or more if they are single or looking to branch-swing. Part of my 'anti-game' approach is to actually watch for dipshits like Mystery and then ask the girls if any of his bullshit PUA routines are working. It's always hilarious when they all turn to me, wide-eyed and shake their head 'NOOOOOOOOOO!'.

Another winner if you can pull it off (you need to be intimidating) is to just walk up and say, "Excuse me ladies, but is he bothering you?". If you say it like you plan on doing something about it, miracles can happen.

But I wouldn't cold-approach and have very managed expectations if I did manage to find an in.

However, you see a later set when it's a solo older woman who is obviously DTF and into Mystery for whatever reason. You can also see that she pretty much had her mind made up as soon as she started talking to him and his routines were irrelevant. He could have been talking about baking cookies and she would have still been into it.

A lot of my method is about is focused on self-improvement (so your 'stats' are as high as possible going in, like a RPG) and finding an approach where all parties win (game theory). If you do this correctly you will 'flip the script' and stop thinking in terms of rejection and instead of making connections. You are then way more likely to be successful building a foundation that will lead to greater intimacy with women.

Lucifer49 · 2018-09-22T12:41:05+00:00

PUAs get rejected because they use silly seduction techniques that don't work

eliminatethought · 2018-09-22T10:15:35+00:00

I think it's interesting how prankster youtube people like Juan of 'thatwasepic' does better than pro PUA's despite not using game. Plus the girls whose numbers he gets are often legit stunning. Like 9's!

Looks are surely super important for cold approach pickup tbh.

Title	Why do Pro PUA's still get rejected so much?
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Date	September 22, 2018 10:10 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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