For you young guys ..

maxart1337 · 2020-02-10T15:49:18+00:00

Sorry to hear you had to overcome such horrible and hurtful experiences but I am glad you found the correct path.

icew1nd03 · 2020-02-10T18:23:00+00:00

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KneeDeepThought · 2020-02-10T16:47:20+00:00

We all seem to have to learn the hard way that we deserve to be a priority in our own lives instead of just constantly prioritizing everyone else. Be good to yourself first and foremost, is the best lesson I got out of my abusive relationshits.

davisyoung · 2020-02-10T18:51:12+00:00

She told me "I wasn't at her level anymore and wasn't going to wait" and "I wasn't attractive anymore".

The level of ego these days. 20 years ago, she would have at least had the common courtesy to pull the “it’s not you, it’s me” routine.

RedPillMissionary · 2020-02-10T18:23:40+00:00

At some point happiness was replaced with “pleasure.” Monogamy will never work if even one of the partners has that perspective.

bassheadstang · 2020-02-10T17:40:13+00:00

You’ll be fine bud. Youtube is great too if you haven’t discovered that already. I highly recommend Terrence Popp how to get over your ex. His videos are great.

1xTom · 2020-02-10T19:28:02+00:00

If it makes you feel any better, women don't use words with the same gravity or meaning that men do. She's just blurting out whatever she thinks comes close enough to how she's feeling at the time. What I mean by this, is not to let yourself hang on something she said to you that may mean a lot to you to hear but probably didn't mean that much for her to say to you.

I've had girls and women tell me all sorts of nasty things when they find out that I did something they didn't like (simple stupid things like when I'm eating a sandwich and a piece of chicken falls out of it onto the floor, I'll dust it off and eat it because it doesn't really bother me - she'll say something like "you're the most disgusting person I know") but really they're just trying to convey the emotion behind it.

What they mean and what you mean are probably very different things. I'm not really sure.

Also, something that might help you out in the future, is the concept that women want a "strong" man. One who won't give into their shitty little games. I'm not saying this ad advice for if you want another woman, but generally. I've read tons of books about this kind of thing so I like to think I have a clue, but it seems like in your second marriage at least you got walked all over because you weren't strong enough to refuse to be a doormat. As weird as it is, women appreciate men who refuse to back down. You actually gain points with them in ignoring them as opposed to being their servant. But yeah. There's a guy called Corey Wayne I think, who has a lot of stuff to say on the matter that I found pretty insightful. Maybe you will too.

bongohai · 2020-02-10T18:54:42+00:00

Sorry to hear this bro. We see stories like this time and time again and yet women wonder why men get cold feet regarding "commitment". It's carnage out there brothers. Stay safe.

TheCuckTriggerer · 2020-02-10T20:20:53+00:00

Never trust a woman who has ambition beyond that of simply being a good wife and mother.

A woman who has ambition beyond that will turn on you at some point, and when they do, the bite will be fierce and the poison will be extreme.

Docbear64 · 2020-02-10T21:22:50+00:00

Men can't make another man hate women ... women can make a man hate women.

Ody_ssey · 2020-02-10T19:19:00+00:00

Adopt a dog. Only pet can reward you for your unconditional love.

sootlord · 2020-02-10T19:44:05+00:00

Thank you for sharing, its stories like these that keep me firm about saying no relationships/marriages

bpdloveoflife · 2020-02-10T22:55:49+00:00

Hey brother, this is just horrible to hear. You seem like the person who give all your best to make other people happy. We are brought up to believe that you put in your best and you get back the best in return, but the world doesnt work that way.

Givers always get attracted by Takers. Takers have a natural instinct to find Givers and also to know all their weaknesses. They know which buttons to push, how to get the most out of the Givers and when they finally get bored, they move on to the next Giver.

I am happy you are finding your peace. From my own experience, I would like to suggest taking the time to learn about yourself. After all you have suffered, therapy might be needed to bring some peace. Please know that people like us will always keep getting attracted/attracting Takers until we stop being Givers. We need to learn to love ourselves for just who we are, not for how much we do for others. You probably grew up with very hard to please parents, and thats what put us on the journey of always trying to please others. Hope you can find your inner self and heal your inner wounds on this journey.

trematar · 2020-02-10T17:57:26+00:00

Stay strong brother! Focus on yourself from now on. Remember, all women want to do is use men. Use us for financial gain, status gain, validate their insecurities, leech off our strength. They can't offer a man anything that we can't get on our own.

mgtowmale · 2020-02-10T23:41:41+00:00

Ah yes, another shocking and highly offensive life story. Pity Reddit got the direction of the shock and offense backwards...

justiceavenger2 · 2020-02-10T17:45:38+00:00

Sorry to hear that. What is the statusbwith your kid? Do you get to see him or her often?

BobbingForBunions · 2020-02-10T19:01:21+00:00

That sounds rough, OP.

What are your plans going forward? Take up a new hobby (cooking, guitar, MMA, etc.)? Start a business? Adopt a dog that'll reward you every day with love, loyalty, and companionship?

sebastian0801 · 2020-02-10T19:16:19+00:00

But its good that you learnd it later then never.

MeGoingTOWin · 2020-02-10T21:58:31+00:00

One thing I missed in both marriages was my identity

This is what women do with all their shit tests even BEFORE marriage. They work to slowly take away your identity so they can then control you. It really is a very smart and great tactic for THEM but we need to be very aware of the red flags!

artographic · 2020-02-10T22:29:08+00:00

We should gather up your story and other men and put it as a book. More young men need to understand what awaits them if they choose marriage.

aniani04 · 2020-02-10T16:48:55+00:00

Yes sir, hypergamy never sleeps, you think if you help your wife go up the latter, she'll appreciate everything you did, and whenever you have some doubt, you say: "Not my woman, Impossible, she wouldn't do that". There is no shame in that, we've all been there.
The moment you internalize AWALT, you'll never help a woman, not even your wife, only do enough for her to know her place, nothing more, nothing less. And have the ZERO TOLERANCE policy, cause cheating doesn't just happen, They never go from 0 to 100, and need to always keep a close eye on her behavior, then one day you'll feel it in your guts that something isn't right, ONCE YOU FEEL THAT, END IT.
Time means nothing to women (12 years together), in her mind, that never existed, so you should start acting the same, always here and now. She disrespects you, Fuck the 12 years together, You should be out.
As far as cheating goes, you won't heal easily, and you will never fully recover, but it should be a one-time lesson in your life, to prevent it from happening again. A friend of mine is taking a different approach to this matter, he goes ahead and cheats first, so when the bitch does it, it doesn't affect that much. Mine is also different, I just pump and dump now, no more gf titles, to keep the their best behavior when they're around.
I hope you learned your lesson, and thank you so much for sharing the wisdom.

countinginsolitude · 2020-02-10T18:23:56+00:00

Did the counseling help? I need it myself for a similar issue

Donald_Malarkey9 · 2020-02-10T18:30:47+00:00

Damn homie, this is tough to read. I'm sorry this has happened to you.

GoodMan_Gone · 2020-02-10T21:12:39+00:00

I concur OP. I'm at your side warning young men, running after their dicks to those hot curves: they are worth nothing! So even on this sub my advice is: totally ignore them on a romantic level. And don't even try the moron "pump n dump" BS. Do that with a sex worker but FFS not with those parasites in the wild. All you do is mark yourself for a #metoo.

lazercrazy3 · 2020-02-10T22:20:31+00:00

Invest in stocks instead of marriages. :)

2020-02-10T22:53:05+00:00

Welcome aboard brother

Megitgud · 2020-02-11T00:07:25+00:00

"Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association." - Briffault's Law

Revorob · 2020-02-11T01:14:01+00:00

Never sacrifice or change for women. They will never do either for you.

delsystem32exe · 2020-02-11T03:47:29+00:00

looks like you just deleted system32.exe

Alcibiadestiny · 2020-02-10T18:33:00+00:00

Hello, brother.

You are not alone.

Your biggest trial will be the emotional withdrawal. It's real. And, it's ugly. Expect it. Cry if you need to. Break shit if you need to. Get drunk if you need to.

Then, from the pain, build anew.

Visualize your ideal life. WITHOUT WOMEN. Then, plan it. On detail.

Then, build a team of like minded brothers, to help and support you.

Then, begin.

bri2389 · 2020-02-10T19:52:52+00:00

Most of us had to learn the hard/painful/expensive way. Glad that you found us.

bambambam10 · 2020-02-10T20:06:48+00:00

Being easy going with women just means you are a door mat. You let shit go and you let em walk all over you. You need to be a closed door instead. Your default answer should be "No". You propped your wife up in support thinking this is what is good for you, but it was just good for her, and you basically leveled her up out of your life. What you should have been doing was improving yourself and evaluating whether she was still worthy of you. Also, always, always remember that AWALT means AWALT.

Equivalent-Craft · 2020-02-10T20:50:11+00:00

That sux mate. Noone needs to go through that shit. But...the world is your oyster now. Im hearing you on the lost identity thing. Marriage in this day n age definitiely makes no sense anymore.

1231412412 · 2020-02-10T22:40:39+00:00

Simp

Smegma_Hitler_69 · 2020-02-10T22:41:53+00:00

Horrible experiences, but I'm glad to see it led you here. This is where you need to be.

2020-02-10T22:46:08+00:00

You are not alone. Welcome.

evergreen35 · 2020-02-10T22:57:58+00:00

I understand the Hypergamy, the self centeredness, the nitpickiness, the self delusion, all of the shitty traits that most Women have... Female Nature... and I can kind of forgive that... But I came to realization that very few Women actually have a moral compass, a moral code...

And then this video was a paradigm shift for me: It made me realize that Women aren't really capable of True Love, at least as I define it. We have been lied to all of our lives by romantic movies and cartoons thinking that Women can really Love, but they can't:

She can't love like that

MASTERoQUADEMAN · 2020-02-10T23:23:36+00:00

Good buddy you are a true man. Going through a blasted mess like that twice and coming out strong. It’s horrible you went through that, but folks like you and your experience really ring through to younger guys like myself. I appreciate you, and I pray for some good time to build your identity back up.

BurdenedChad · 2020-02-10T23:38:58+00:00

Long story short, I supported her career move, work for free helping her with the business (IT work) and put my education on hold while she move up the ladder.

Apropos of nothing, does it seem to anyone else that any woman with more than a passing interest in computers just gets ushered into the profession and quickly promoted? And if you're a guy everyone fusses over whether your certs or compsci degree are good enough?

ikhwan_arif · 2020-02-11T00:01:15+00:00

Thank you for sharing your story. Please help to spread the good word of MGTOW in any way you can.

2020-02-11T03:16:12+00:00

but i heard all men are rapist abusive assholes that beat women and hate their kids. lmao.

...how many times have I seen a good man who is honest, loyal get thrown to the wolves after years because....feelings. Briffaults law is the most bitter of all red pill. you should look into it if you're not familiar already. Women are lovely to e around until one day, they are not. "what have you done for me lately" is really a biological instinctive behavior, no man is safe from it and nothing you can do can prevent it from happening. men who understand loyalty simply cannot fathom this hard bitter truth.

guaranteed if you put your career first, told her she was worthless and fucked her face like a dirty whore 5 times a week she'd say you were amazing. fuck modern women.

TrainYourMuscle · 2020-02-11T03:55:44+00:00

Hope you get better and better !
Marriage is nothing but a trap now.

RedPill_Dragon · 2020-02-11T04:09:30+00:00

You are welcomed here brother!

There is always a place for you. Unpack and enjoy. Sandman will be here shortly and Terrance Popp wants to watch Space Ghost with you.

You did nothing wrong. Women will say it's your fault when in reality, the only problem was that men listened and believed women in the first place.

kubicas · 2020-02-11T05:55:20+00:00

Oh man you got played big time. All young lads out there must focus on their own shit. Women already have an upper hand when starting.

HonestGamingTroll · 2020-02-11T14:48:33+00:00

I am a young guy and I appreciate you for taking a bullet for me.

I am all about that hit it and quit it life. I live alone. Life is good when you don't buy the cow and still get the milk for free.

odun96 · 2020-02-11T19:44:11+00:00

Thank you for sharing this story with me. I am 23 now and also work in IT. What actually happened to you might also happen to me. Thank you for warning

2020-02-10T17:31:43+00:00

Sorry to hear that ,bro..but you sound like a smart guy who has a good job and you will bounce back.

Focus on yourself...its sounds cliché but ALL the answers in life come from within.

We must never ever ever ever ever stop "focusing" on ourselves...women are literal children.

They want a guy to have a 6 pack but bitch when you spend an hr at the gym daily.

Its their nature to whine about everything...but this is part of how pop culture attacks masculinity with its hidden repetitive messages and mind programming.

We shouldn't be constantly trying to appease women to attract them, but rather quite the opposite is what is normal.

Traditional female roles dictated that a woman is attracted to a driven man who doesn't have time to analyze tv shows and every word spoken out of someones mouth.

So we have to give a fuck less about what women are demanding today for the long game in any relationship...and they'll bitch and pout and whine now, but in the long run when you save money or build your body or whatever ..they will be happy and forget that they were mad about it originally.

This is akin to how children behave when they gotta go to bed early for a big day of fun the next day.

The cry and pout and then when you wake them up and say - dont you feel great and ready for your fun day after a night of sleep - they are happy!

99% of Women are inferior to men in every way fathomable ..and this comment is based on what women "used" to be, not what clown world has made them.

I weep for the future and sometimes am glad that i am 42 and not 22

feltentragus · 2020-02-10T18:07:49+00:00

The sidebar is a good place to start. Since this sub. is quarantined (and thus maybe soon to be deleted) I'd recommend you save stuff to your HD for future reference.

If you want an overview of the current shitfest, I'd recommend Men on Strike, if you need to have feminist craziness deconstructed then Karen Straughan's YouTube is an entertaining place to start. If you find that watching TV these days is almost intolerable then Spreading Misandry will let you in on what's been done to entertainment in the name of equality.

But most of all, move on; find out what makes you happy, and do it.

rayedward363 · 2020-02-10T21:58:50+00:00

The only way to properly learn is to experience the misery, good on you for not letting it crush you into the mud.

2020-02-10T22:35:25+00:00

Hey dude this is inspiring man good to have you on the boat!!!! Good luck and if you need someone to talk ill gladly ask questions because I am 26 and curious what they are initially and them what they are later on in marriage.

Text me on directs if you are interested to answer a few questions

Chakra_Devourer · 2020-02-11T05:15:56+00:00

lol...that's what happened when you help a bitch get ahead. Once she got ahead she'll leave you behind. You are now not good enough anymore. You were useful but now you're beneath her. Forget "loyalty." Didn't you hear? "the past is the past." You're the past now.

Title	For you young guys ..
Author	jbiker10
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Date	February 10, 2020 3:44 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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