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"Women legislators turn the tables and introduce bills regulating men's reproductive health" - Daily Kos

izomo

October 4, 2015
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/r/MensRights
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Title "Women legislators turn the tables and introduce bills regulating men's reproductive health" - Daily Kos
Author

izomo

Upvotes 30
Comments 30
Date October 4, 2015 3:29 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3nf00j/women_legislators_turn_the_tables_and_introduce/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/women-legislators-turn-the-tables-and-introduce.970122
https://theredarchive.com/post/970122
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[+][deleted] 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]pocketknifeMT -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not really, both are choices about one's own body the government has arbitrary decided to regulate.

Her bill is to show the absurdity of how states are fucking with women.

[–]rg57 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Indeed, the former can be life-saving.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I guess they're too stupid to realize there are just as many pro choice men as there are pro choice women.

[–]izomo[S] 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There is actually more, if it was solely up to women it would be much more restrictive.

[–]wazzup987 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

check mate feminists

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women seem particularly vulnerable to the influences of the patriarchy.

[–]MittenMagick 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. It's the extremely unscientific and dishonest concept of "internalized misogyny". A woman is saying something anti-feminist? Internalized misogyny!

[–]Nulono 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*There are actually more; if it were

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

So in response to women (who, as another user pointed out, are the majority who oppose abortion) and men opposing abortion based on their belief a fetus is a person and it is effectively "murdering" someone, which has absolutely no relation to women and would apply the same way if males could become pregnant...

And in response to this issue that is almost entirely religious and based on the idea a fetus is a person, not an "attack on women"...

Feminist politicians deliberately and knowing try to take sexist REVENGE on men as a gender by attacking their reproductive health???!

Remind me again how feminists claim the "Patriarchy" rules everything when a feminist politician can blatantly state publicly that they are introducing a law against men to take revenge on their sex for something their sex didn't fucking do.

[–]MenandBoysareGood 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Feminism is for men too!". Don't forget this article when you hear that. It's pure misandry.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

We need a politician to Black Knight the fuck out of these retards.

"You're absolutely right, our policies in regards to reproductive health are entirely lop-sided. Either both sexes get the same choices when it comes to reproductive options or neither gets any. so how about we draft a piece of legislation that also extends safe haven laws to fathers, and further, lets talk about legal paternal surrender..."

Then sit back and watch the hamsters spin.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What next? Propose stripping men of their bodily autonomy by legalizing circumcision or telling them that consent to sex is consent to parenthood?

[–]shorty1988m 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"The men in our lives, including members of the General Assembly, generously devote time to fundamental female reproductive issues—the least we can do is return the favor,"

This sentence. Even just reading it I can hear the sarcasm.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No oppressed group ever wants parity with their oppressors. They want to do to them what they perceive has been done to them.

[–]Nulono 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do these airheads not get that there's a fucking difference between abortion and vasectomy that goes beyond just women doing one and men doing the other, and that they make themselves look like absolute fucking retards when they pretend otherwise? Do they have nothing better to do than waste taxpayer money sarcastically introducing bills like petulant toddlers?

[–]ZimbaZumba 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And these women expect to get re-elected?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, who pays attention anyways?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't think Obamacare covers vasectomies anyway.

[–]izomo[S] 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget to ask your wife to permission too.

[–]SporkTornado 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What Birth Control Is Covered?

According to HealthCare.Gov Food and Drug Administration-approved contraceptive methods prescribed by a woman’s doctor are covered. This generally includes:

-Barrier methods (used during intercourse), like diaphragms and sponges

-Hormonal methods, like birth control pills and vaginal rings

-Implanted devices, like intrauterine devices (IUDs)

-Emergency contraception, like Plan B® and ella®

-Sterilization procedures

-Patient education and counseling

Plans aren’t required to cover:

-Drugs to induce abortions

-Services related to a man’s reproductive capacity, like vasectomies

-http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-birth-control/

[–]wazzup987 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

well fuck

[–]Smitikus 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

by introducing a bill that would require men seeking a prescription for erectile dysfunction drugs to see a sex therapist, receive a cardiac stress test and "get a notarized affidavit signed by a sexual partner affirming impotency."

So that's a thing in the article. This seems like the state trying to leverage control over more of the population, using reproductive health to do it. I am not a fan of that.

[–]TheDude41 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What, men should introduce bill regulating their capacity to defend themselves physically in case they are assaulted.

I guess we could also pass a bill creating a health care mandate for Viagra, since there isn't one at this time.

[–]lethatis 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The irony that is escaping these harridans is that many clinics already require the wife's permission for a man to get a vasectomy.

[–]rg57 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Turn the tables? The ACA already doesn't fund male condoms or contraceptive surgery.

[–]matmannen 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is kind of a stupid post since it's quite obvious that the bill is a joke, somebody trying to make a point...

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, so now an official introduced legal bill by an elected official is "just a joke".

And I thought "omg kill all men is just a joke" was a ridiculous enough deflection.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In Illinois, for instance, state Rep. Kelly Cassidy (D) introduced an amendment to a bill requiring ultrasounds before a woman can get an abortion that would require men to watch an explicit video about the side-effects of erectile dysfunction drugs.

This is an excellent idea. You need to know that medication can crash your blood pressure and/or need to know your heart health before you can have the sex.

It can also make you blind or see blue. I see NOTHING wrong with doctors giving men informed consent. Seeing people buy Viagra basically after an "online consultation" makes me cringe. We need to rule out low testosterone, diabetes or other systemic problems first.

And, Missouri state Rep. Stacey Newman (D) introduced a bill that would allow a man to obtain a vasectomy only when not doing so could cause him serious injury or death.

Stacey Newman, I take it, is baby crazy.

[–]EmpathyOverSympathy -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't really have any issue with this. This is judicial/legislative activism, done to point out the fact that our society is placing undue restrictions on women getting access to contraceptives and abortion. The analogy to the examples they're providing for men is far from perfect, but that's not really the point, and I get that.

I think people here ought to recognize an instance of "sarcastic" activism, and not confuse it with a sincere belief that men's reproductive services need to be regulated. That is not what's going on here.

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