I’m sure this has been posted before but the longer I’m on Reddit, the more posts I see referring to women as females. For example, a female stayed at my house and drank some wine. Why can’t ppl just say woman? Is it a colloquialism that I’m missing?
Edit: looks like I was Late to the party
https://time.com/4300170/female-word/
[–]levelate 95 points96 points97 points (7 children) | Copy Link
from the folks who gave us 'male gaze'
[–]lestratege[🍰] 69 points70 points71 points (6 children) | Copy Link
And male fragility.
[–]Space952 55 points56 points57 points (5 children) | Copy Link
And "toxic" masculinity
Feminists are all scum
[–]jemosu 40 points41 points42 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Don’t forget Mansplaining!
[–]Huge-Title4888 36 points37 points38 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Can't forget manspread.
[–]Stormyturkey312 28 points29 points30 points (2 children) | Copy Link
or manterupting (yes they really invented this one too)
[–]Designer_Asparagus_5 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Tf? Manterupting? The hell is that?
[–]Stormyturkey312 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
literally just interupting but when a man does it lmfao. Feminists really go from 0 to 100 fast, from creating weird new words to wanting a genocide of all men.
[–]Anonymous_wastaken 75 points76 points77 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Dickless beings who have more experience in being dicks than beings who have a dick
/s
[–]Contershtaplishmints 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao
[–]Euphoric-Ordinary-52 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahahahahaha
[–]maxlvb 46 points47 points48 points (10 children) | Copy Link
Why don't you ask feminists why they call men 'males'...
Try asking that question in r/feminism, r/twoxxchromosomes, r/menslib and see if you get any answers, instead of a permanent ban...
Feminism: Equality, when convenient.
[–]_Gringus_ 8 points9 points10 points (7 children) | Copy Link
should i try it?
[–]Shayde505 2 points3 points4 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Yes
[–]_Gringus_ 11 points12 points13 points (5 children) | Copy Link
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/nnrq1k/why_do_some_women_refer_to_men_as_males
done, we'll see how this goes down
[–]mireethespacegoat 16 points17 points18 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Bruh, someone actually pulled the "female and woman is offensive because it has male/men in it" one in the replies. I legit thought that was just a meme thing.
[–]_Gringus_ 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
what a smooth thinker
[–]lonely_trickstr 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
So by their logic “femnoid” is less offensive
(Still should never say that though)
[–]Zealousideal_Drop_25 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Banned in less than an hour.
[–]funnydeadpool 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah bro they call us scrotes over at FDS
[–]asura227 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
No can do. I've already been banned from r/twoxchromosomes, twice. Apparently they don't like it when you point out their fake equality bullshit. I still hope that new abortion case ends in favor of men.
[–]_Gringus_ 12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"Why do men always call us females instead of women???" - firm believers of "fragile masculinity"
[–]Firetonado 22 points23 points24 points (1 child) | Copy Link
It's just a word. And the comments over there. What are the teaching bin schools ? How to be an asshole and cry baby.
[–]Ody_ssey 18 points19 points20 points (5 children) | Copy Link
So they admit they hate womanhood?
[–]lestratege[🍰] 14 points15 points16 points (3 children) | Copy Link
More like their femalehood. Don't forget that nowadays you're a woman just because you feel like it and say so.
[–]Ody_ssey 6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
First they destroy womanhood, then they say transwomen are real women, then then they call women as birthing people and then they protest against inclusion of transwomen in women's sports. They are themselves destroying the concept of womanhood. Atleast men are keeping that integrity of what a woman is by calling women as female.
Feminism has come to devour women.
[–]Space952 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Its amusing to say the least, in fact I hope transgenders take over women sports
[–]Langland88 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Or they'll defend it and claim it's ok. This one is actually very divisive surprisingly. A lot of feminists will defend transgendered folks in women's sports while many along with non-feminist women will protest against it.
[–]ron_m_joe 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Gottem
[–]John-Walker-1186 50 points51 points52 points (11 children) | Copy Link
just ignore that retarded sub
[–]Space952 24 points25 points26 points (7 children) | Copy Link
one of the worst subs on reddit and they are constantly on the front page
[–]ShoutoutsToSimple 14 points15 points16 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Yep. FDS is a pretty good piece of evidence that reddit is biased against men, and that they will ban any subreddit they suspect of misogyny, yet allow FDS to continue existing despite being nothing but misandry.
But TwoX kind of trumps it in my head, simply because it's a default subreddit. Even if FDS features worse content, it's not like TwoX is that far behind. TwoX is rarely anything but man bashing. Even posts which seem to focus on the experience of being a woman moreso than directly complaining about men...quickly turns into, "and my experience as a woman is made worse by those evil men". And TwoX, unlike FDS, is not just allowed to exist, but is continually promoted by reddit as a default subreddit.
Any new user to the site, and anyone not logged in, has the absolute displeasure of seeing posts from TwoX show up on their front page when they first come to the site. Reddit has no problem wearing posts from that subreddit as a badge of honor. New users will log in, and literally immediately see posts bashing men. They don't even have to dig for them.
That's fucked up.
[–]ron_m_joe 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm sorry, but, what is FDS?
[–]ShoutoutsToSimple 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Other comment was removed because it had a link. It's a subreddit called Female Dating Strategy. It's horribly sexist against men, but it's allowed by reddit.
[–]ron_m_joe 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I'd managed to read your reply in time anyway.
As expected 😔
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[–]ron_m_joe 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, I got your reply nevertheless.
[–]JayeshSethi[S] 12 points13 points14 points (2 children) | Copy Link
13 million members how?
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It's a default sub
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Sorry are you trying to understand using logic?
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instead of TwoXChorosomes it should be TwoBraincells.
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r/NegativeTwoBrainCells
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[–]shiftyfired1056 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
OOOOOOOOOH
[–]skymonstef 18 points19 points20 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Um we don't
I have never heard a man refer to women as females outside of the internet
Even when mad it's still women not females
[–]crux556 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean, I do on paperwork as default, but that's because it's easier, don't want to misgender someone or whatever, context I used to do hiring and firing for a company i worked at
[–]VinnyBoy45 -3 points-2 points-1 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I often do. Thing is, I often see women do that too. The post is right in the sense that it is degrading, but is wrong to push that just on men.
[–]ShoutoutsToSimple 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Right, that's generally the way I feel about it.
I think people are generally too sensitive to the word, because sometimes it's used, it's not bad at all, but people have been trained to view it as misogynistic no matter what. But sometimes, it is legitimately...off-putting, if nothing else. But like you, I see the opposite play out all the damn time as well. The difference is that no one calls it out, and so no one seems to notice how often it happens. It's easy to think that one thing happens far more than another if every time the first thing happens, there's a big to-do about it, and every time the second thing happens, it flies under the radar.
I'll see people lose their shit even when "female" is used appropriately, as an adjective. I saw a time on AITA when a man was describing the gender makeup of a discord server, when gender was 100% relevant to the conflict in the story. So he said something like, "the server has 18 male members and 7 female members". The comments were absolutely littered with people complaining about how OP gives off "incel vibes" because of his use of the word "female". It didn't matter that the word was used in the proper context, nor that "male" was used in the same may a few words over. Nope, misogyny.
Meanwhile, that same week on AITA, I saw a post where, two separate times, OP referred to a pair of people as "a woman and a male" and subsequently "the woman and the male". I read literally every single comment in the thread, and not a single person pointed this out. In this case, "male" was being used as a noun, which is when it sounds super awkward and sexist. And it was used alongside "woman", rather than alongside "female" for symmetry. But not a peep.
It was hard not to see the problem after reading those two posts back-to-back. This is why the conversation is broken. "male members and female members" seems misogynistic to people, yet "a woman and a male" doesn't seem misandrist to people. And that's the problem. This is why people are convinced "female" is so much more common than "male". They literally don't take notice when "male" is used.
[–]ihatethaifood 16 points17 points18 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Female here, ive never understood the hate against the word. Same with 'womxn' instead of woman.
[–]ShoutoutsToSimple 3 points4 points5 points (3 children) | Copy Link
How are you even typing right now when you should be absolutely shaking with fury at having to read the word "female". Oops, now I've said it as well. I'm so sorry. Please allow me to whip myself for the sin of being born a man, and to prostrate myself before you in an effort to reach "equality"*.
*Terms and conditions may apply. Equality may not actually be equality, but rather female supremacy. But just shut up and continue being an "ally" to our cause. If you believe in gender equality, you are a feminist by definition. And if you are a feminist, you must agree with women any time they say men are scum. So bow down, you fucking maggot of a man.
[–]HorrorFan1191 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I don’t think that was a male hating comment.
[–]ShoutoutsToSimple 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn't mean to imply that it was. I was mocking the kinds of things feminists say, by suggesting that the commenter above me, as a woman, must clearly be devastated by the use of the word "female". I completely agree with the comment I replied to.
[–]Eoasap 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
hi female, I'm a male! its nice there's at least a few people on the internet that don't flip out at the mere mention of words.
Personally, I was always taught we as individuals adapt to the world. so if someone (or a group) were calling me a name I found offensive, I would have to adapt to not let it bother me, but it seems lots of people nowadays demand and expect entire groups of people to change to accommodate a single individual. The world just doesn't work that way!
So its refreshing to see you don't care if you're called a woman or a female. I don't care if I'm called a man, male, guy, dude assailed, jerk etc. All we do is give people power over us if we get upset but its laughable because they're not even offensive terms nor meant to be offensive! some people just love the feeling if being attacked i guess. it seems to have a narcotic-type effect.
have a nice day!
[–]ron_m_joe 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
As quoted from the aforementioned thread, any term can be used in a bad way, blaming it on the seemingly neutral words themselves is stupidity.
[–]RileyParry 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
From the people who call men "scrotes" everybody.
[–]ShoutoutsToSimple 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Relevant time to point out that I see "male" get used as a noun all the damn time, and no one ever points it out. Every single time someone uses the word "female", even if it's being used appropriately as an adjective (i.e. "We have 3 male nurses and 27 female nurses"), people lose their mind about how it's misogyny and only incels talk that way. But I very frequently see shit like an AskReddit front page post something like, "Males of Reddit, why do you blah blah blah", and I'll scour the comments looking for anyone pointing this out, and there's not a peep.
I hate when confirmation bias leads to a situation like this. People continually act like it's evidence of rampant misogyny that women are referred to as "females", but that's only because of confirmation bias. Any time a men are referred to as "males", sweep it under the tug. Any time women are referred to as "females" consider it further proof that this happens all the time to women.
It's so stupid. It's just yet another "it happens way more to women!" claim with no proof. People are never able to demonstrate that it's actually a unique or disproportionate problem for women. They just claim that it is, and that's enough for people, because they've been trained to agree that anything and everything is misogyny.
[–]Marty-the-monkey 11 points12 points13 points (1 child) | Copy Link
What’s the problem?
[–]Alex-xoxo666 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That came to my mind when I saw it; why does this matter?
[–]oedipusplatypus 17 points18 points19 points (4 children) | Copy Link
I responded:
Look, I'm just an old white dude, so please... Downvote me into oblivion. Don't we have better things to worry about? You know; maybe rampant inflation, deforestation, fucking sea turtles. Maybe look into why we're all at each other's throats over words. Maybe wonder why race is suddenly a thing again after no one cared for years.
We're being played against each other and each little dig, each paper cut makes us that much less cohesive. We have far bigger problems than this and if being called female, male, or shithead is an existential crisis; you have far too much free time and should probably do something productive. My suggestion... Maybe help the women who don't live in a first world country. They have real problems. Feminism worked. You won a very long time ago. Help people who need it.
[–]Space952 14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't bother, feminists in the west won't be satisfied until men are their slaves.
Also feminism was a mistake since Day 1 and has ruined western society.
[–]Contershtaplishmints -3 points-2 points-1 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You my guy, have some sense
[–]RockmanXX -2 points-1 points0 points (1 child) | Copy Link
No, we don't need your "help", Mr.White Savior.
EDIT: LOL you're gonna downvote me, Mister? When the 3rd world tells the West that they don't need their condescending "Help", you get triggered. We never asked for any "help"!
[–]oedipusplatypus 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Not my job. I'm busy with my own life. My suggestion was for the females who want to save the world. I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one.
[–]Andynnos 4 points5 points6 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Wow the level of ignorance and stupidity we are climbing to reach as a society everyday is terrifying. We have so many problems of survival on this Earth and people are worrying about words............. There are species contemporary with us that GO EXTINCT. We are not anything special this can happen to us as well and we are faced with this idiotic articles. People in the past that were much stronger than us that died for us to be where we are weren't this stupid and they had no access to our knowledge and our boom in technology. Reclaim the word female pfua LIKE IT IS FUCKING TAKEN HOSTAGE AND USED ONLY BY MALES (should we start attacking people online for using males as well?).
[–]Space952 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem is in the west people have had really easy for a few decades now (since WW2 ended) so people started to focus on dumb shit like feminism or transgenders or pronouns & being offended 24/7.
Older generations would be ashamed to see the current state of western civilization, its a complete joke.
[–]maxlvb 1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
(off topic) You do know that species going extinct on this planet is the norm/default for all species that exist now, and have existed in the past...
99.9999% of all species that have evolved on this 'little blue dot' have become extinct.
All the currently existing species (including the human species) on this planet will go extinct at some point in their future.
It's the way evolution works...
[–]Andynnos -2 points-1 points0 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I know, that was my point. We need to make sure we are on the 0.1% side of things and not worry about words with no meaning.
[–]maxlvb 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I dont know about being like the 0.1% of species is such a good thing. They're the species that never/change evolve over millions of years....
Like this:
If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts. 😉
[–]Andynnos 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahahahah the last sentence killed me:)). I think of life as the willingness of the Universe to know itself, so if humans evolved in such a way to actually be intelligent enough to explore space why should we not put more effort into working together and discover more about the mysteries and wonders that are out there instead of getting offended over the word female? It is outrageously stupid to have conflict between genders because we as guys used female instead of woman. It reminded me of that idiotic clip when a dude used amen and awomen to be political correct. It's funny because the word it's from Hebrew and it means truth.
[–]lonely_trickstr 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
But if you complain about being referred to as male your called fragile
Why out of problems to care about in the world do they focus on a minor thing that isn’t even a problem
If they actually cared about women’s rights they would protest in countries where women can’t drive
[–]Huge-Title4888 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do women refer to men as "boys" in a context that enforces infantilization and makes the assumption that all men are immature little children? I've seen more women refer to all men as boys as opposed to men referring to women as females. Let's have that discussion.
[–]oedipusplatypus 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They banned me. I also responded to that:
So, we simply ban those who have a different opinion? In full context, was I not subsequently attacked? How was this dealt with?
Yes, wave your ban hammer, ruler of some sub. So stunning. So brave.
Discourse, often satirical... This is how we survive as a cohesive culture. We don't do so by hiding from everything we don't like. We seem to have forgotten the liberal ideals which created western democracy. When we allow our outrage to dictate policy solely based upon argumentum ad passiones, we are lost. When we placate the lowest common denominator rather than attempting in good faith to do what is in the best interest of all, we are lost.
Silencing those who you would find disagreement with does not make for a strong and informed opinion. Resorting to violence and the use of power at the first sign of being challenged are indicative of a flawed ideology and a lust for control of the narrative.
Enjoy your echo chamber.
[–]EgalitarianFacts 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Because now gendered words are completely disconnected from the sex of the person being referred to so in order to maintain specificity, we are forced to use different words.
[–]Contershtaplishmints 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I commented "it is such a small thing to whine about, you guys are pussies" and got a perm ban like 5 minutes later
[–]oedipusplatypus 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I was permabanned for this and the exchange that ensued.
[–]Zealousideal_Drop_25 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
JESUS... I just replied with a non-aggressive, not even hate endused "What? Are women not females and men not males? I'm sure no one does it in a bad way, just using... well, literally just the word for a woman." and got banned literally 10 mins later. The mods are HARDCORE feminists.
[–]FlatspinZA 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Male, female.
It's a logical progression.
Personally, I refer to mine as 'mah bitch', or, 'serving wench.'
She doesn't like either title, but I am the one who sorts out the car, the garbage, the garden, the plumbing, and anything that goes wrong around the house, so I don't care.
[–]Sorryformybrother 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I really don’t see a problem with that she was just asking a question it seems. Like it doesn’t seem like you’re trying to say all men were toxic or anything like that I was just asking a simple question why do guys say female instead of saying women. Which I just chalk it up to a sling thing
[–]Langland88 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I say female sometimes because people get offended by the word woman. It seems like it is those who are part of the female gender that are often offended by the words associated with their gender and yet they have no issues making derogatory terms associated with men or male gender.
[–]uac_redhound 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
From the people who calls us "scrotes" 😐😑😐
[–]The-Keep 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I call them broads. And dames..some times skirts
[–]urdude456_ 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Uhhh, because female is the biological sex of a woman???
[–]gamerush177 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Because that’s what they are??? Especially if you’re referring to them holding some title, like female (Insert position) is grammatically correct instead of woman doctor or something
[–]mashthemango 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The way some people feel the need to create an issue is astounding.
The logic behind 'female' being bad because it has the word 'male' in it is exactly the same as if men were complaining about being called 'male' because it was within the word 'female' but there is more added to the word 'female' therefore implying there is more to women.
Illogical jibberish that only becomes a problem when you have a lot of people wanting to find a problem that doesn't exist.
[–]Klutzy_Pride_5644 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
All the arguments apply equally well both ways. In Australia the media often say male judge, male police officer, male teacher, or most of all - male offender if it suits the stereotype they want to push. And the whole relationship to animals obviously is completely symmetrical for male and female. The reality is that, in the modern day, the user of these adjectives is, more often than not, negative.
As for the female dog idea that is just wrong - a dog IS male, a bitch is a female canine. Just as cattle are cows and bulls (and steers) and sheep are ewes, rams and wethers.
[–]jam-inii 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
im a man now for referring to the two main genders using male and female
[–]RockmanXX 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Because we live in a Time where people are confused about Gender and we need to emphasize what we're talking about is Biological males&females, not the "Gender" male&female.