Unpopular opinion in 2XChromosomes: "Men AND women can stop rape"

guizzy · 2012-01-13T21:06:05+00:00

I'm sorry, how is that post indicative of anything regarding 2xc? We're not SRS, let's not stoop to using their tactics.

Feckless · 2012-01-13T21:00:05+00:00

2xc isn't really our enemy. That is a women's reddit not a feminist reddit and has shown they have the ability to be very intelligent and rational about gender issues - unlike the feminist reddits.

It is pretty obvious when you are in one or the other. 2XC doesn't allow misogyny or misandry. Feminist reddits just don't allow misogyny.

Feckless · 2012-01-13T21:02:43+00:00

You can't use CDC numbers for rape. They cite their own studies which specifically excludes certain kinds of female perpetrators and male victims from their statistics. Their methodology is (I believe intentionally) flawed.

more on that: http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/16/what-counts-as-rape-in-the-cdcs-survey

Use independent studies instead:

http://www.nursing.ubc.ca/PDFs/ItsNotWhatYouThink.pdf

• Males were just as likely to be sexually exploited as females. Among younger street-involved youth (ages 12-18), a greater percentage of males were exploited (34% vs. 27% of females in 2006). Among older street-involved youth (ages 19-25), a higher percentage of females reported sexual exploitation (53% females vs. 32% males).

• Both men and women sexually exploit youth. Although the majority of youth (70%) had been exploited by males, half of youth (50%) had also been exploited by females.

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID45-PR45.pdf

Almost 3% of men reported forced sex and 22% reported verbal coercion. For the forced sex items (analyses not shown), 2.4% reported forced oral or anal sex, and 2.1% reported forced vaginal sex. For the verbal coercion items, 13.5% reported that their partner insisted on sex without a condom, 11.7% that their partners insisted on vaginal sex, 7.5% that their partners insisted on oral or anal sex, 1.9% that their partners threatened them to have oral or anal sex, and 1.9% that their partners threatened them to have vaginal sex

2.3% of [women] overall reported sustaining forced sex from their current or most recent romantic partner, and close to 25% of the female sample sustained verbal sexual coercion. For the forced sex items (analyses not shown), 1.6% reported that their partners forced them into oral or anal sex, and 1.6% reported that their partners forced them into vaginal sex. For the verbal coercion items, 11.0% reported that their partners insisted on having sex without a condom, 14.7% that their partners insisted on vaginal sex, 8.3% that their partners insisted on oral or anal sex, 1.7% that their partners threatened them into having oral or anal sex, and 1.8% that their partners threatened them to have vaginal sex

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry09.pdf

Approximately 95% of all youth reporting staff sexual misconduct said they had been victimized by female staff. In 2008, 42% of staff in state juvenile facilities were female

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri0809.pdf

Most victims of staff sexual misconduct were males; most perpetrators were females. Among male victims of staff sexual misconduct, 69% of those in prison and 64% of those in jails reported sexual activity with female staff. An additional 16% of prison inmates and 18% of jail inmates reported sexual activity with both female and male staff

2012-01-14T16:50:22+00:00

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misseff · 2012-01-13T19:35:15+00:00

Please don't think I disagree with your general opinion, because I don't. But from what I can see you did misinterpret the numbers. You can't make those kinds of mistakes and expect people to take you seriously. Not that it matters because TwoX is not a political or feminist subreddit, but I've had people there support me in the idea that men are not the only ones responsible for "stopping rape" and that men are victims as well.

JeremiahMRA · 2012-01-13T21:10:30+00:00

rantgrrl has a good summary here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/h22yw/bin_ladin_dead_and_all_it_cost_was_a_thousands_of/c1s1g5e

Bobsutan · 2012-01-15T16:18:09+00:00

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rachiedoubt · 2012-01-14T09:27:14+00:00

I think that human beings, in general, can stop rape. It's not about men or women, it's about PEOPLE. We are all human. The fact that rape and sexual assault are horrible things should be understood and not committed by everyone.

2012-01-13T20:40:06+00:00

I've had a look at the report and posted in that thread - by my reckoning, at least 36% of sexual offenders are female, and 44% of rapists or 'forced penetrators' are female.

The report definitely supports the view that women are plenty guilty of committing sexual offences.

Title	Unpopular opinion in 2XChromosomes: "Men AND women can stop rape"
Author	Feckless
Upvotes	9
Comments	45
Date	January 13, 2012 7:29 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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