SMV and herpes

aphelion3342 · 2015-02-18T11:02:53+00:00

So what you're going to have to do is switch to long game. You're going to have to get girls interested in you and hooked on you before you have sex with them. Somewhere along the line you need to let them know that you're a carrier.

Alternately, you can find a girl with herpes and go bananas.

Canwang · 2015-02-18T11:28:40+00:00

Well, it sounds like you contracted hsv-1 based on it being contracted orally. The thing about hsv-1 is,about 80% of the population has it and doesn't even know it. I would definitely aim for long game approach and even ask them to get tested before you have sex. Odds are in your favor that someone will have it and you can continue as per usual from there.

One thing though, I admire your honesty with your partners and PLEASE continue doing that. It would be extremely fucked up to transmit that to someone else when you are fully aware that you are a carrier.

howimetyomama · 2015-02-18T12:06:36+00:00

Unpopular opinion, but true story, if you want to have a couple dozen partners you'll likely end up with HSV I and or II and or at least one variant of HPV for your trouble. They're so common that a majority of people already have HPV, and that's remarkable considered the skewed nature of the sexual marketplace. My favorite statistic -- a woman leaving college having four partners has a 85 percent chance of having HPV. Every year it gets worse. They're spread even with consistent condom use. Standard STI screens don't even bother checking for them. When you go to your county health department for a check -- which you should do if you're spinning plates -- the HSV test is visual. Have lesions? Positive. Don't? Negative. Want an actual blood test? You have to pay. That's at this county and two neighboring counties.

For many folks they're asymptomatic and they aren't aware they're carriers. And/or they don't tell their partners.

My guess is that most people aren't telling their partners.

Feel free to read into why sexual morays and sexual repression existed in our patriarchal culture for thousands of years.

Source: Teach sex ed, am med tech.

vicolani07 · 2015-02-18T14:40:22+00:00

Go to publix, ask for a chicken pox vaccine if you have herpes....100% of patients in this study had no recurring herpes outbreak over through course of 6 years.... this can be helpful http://www.dovepress.com/efficacy-of-the-anti-vzv-anti-hsv3-vaccine-in-hsv1-and-hsv2-recurrent--peer-reviewed-article-OAJCT

Janko630 · 2015-02-18T15:55:27+00:00

Thats not how HSV works, paisan.

It takes a couple of weeks for the virus to show any symptoms. This means you got the HSV from someone else.

proof_TRP_works · 2015-02-18T14:48:27+00:00

Redpill, BE CAREFUL. At this point I would say make every bitch show you her clean STD test before you even touch her. Bitches are dirty and my life is ruined.

The problem with that is HSV isn't even tested in most STD panels because its so common as others have pointed out. So even if they show you a clean STD result you can still get it. If you think holding frame is hard, try doing it with a cold sore on your lip. Work out, stay low stress and take Lysine and ZMA to lower your cold sore rate.

Also, avoid arginine and foods high in arginine such as peanuts. I ate a whole container of peanuts and got 2 cold sores at once, kept eating them because I didnt realize what happened and got another one just as the others were healed. There's a relationship with lysine and arginine, if you have too much arginine and not enough lysine your chances of developing a cold sore skyrocket. I take lysine daily, about 2-3000 mg and more during a cold sore. Sugar also causes cold sores in my personal experience.

I've had great results using Bactine to help with coldsores. Do a search on it and read up, the main ingredient is very effective at speeding up the healing and sometimes I've stopped them completely in their track. I get the "tingle" before a cs, apply bactine and it goes away completely.

I've read about the shingle vaccine reducing cold sores as well.

http://www.dovepress.com/efficacy-of-the-anti-vzv-anti-hsv3-vaccine-in-hsv1-and-hsv2-recurrent--peer-reviewed-article-OAJCT

There's a reddit thread on it as well.

Quoted from the reddit post.

Results: From 2005 through 2011, for the 24 anti-VZV vaccinated patients, the average number of herpes relapses decreased to 0, correlated with an increased anti-VZV antibody level and clinical recovery of all patients, whereas no improvement was observed for the 26 nonvaccinated herpes patients.

From this wikipedia page. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicella_vaccine

One study has indicated that anti-VZV vaccine protects against oral and genital herpes outbreaks.[38]

Looks promising and I'm going to try to get the chicken pox vaccine.

To the people who think HSV is gross etc, don't spin plates or make out with random women. It is possible to meet a woman, get her to take the specialized std panel that checks for HSV and then go steady based on the results, but if you go the partying/plate route your whole reality will be shattered if you wind up with HSV 1 or 2.

red_pill_1 · 2015-02-18T14:55:00+00:00

"None of them will stop the hamsters." What exactly about std avoidance is "hamstering"? It is you, not them, who is unwilling to confront the truth - your new std has made you objectively unattractive. Secondly, it is your fault for not wearing protection with some skank plate. Most women who are content to have repeated no strings attached sex with you are also doing so with other men, so condom use should have been mandatory.

NeopolitanAfterglow · 2015-02-18T13:03:51+00:00

I don't understand this. He has a condition that 80% of all people have, and this removes him from the sexual market? In other words, 80% of all people are off the sexual market?

I mean I've had HSV1 likely since I was a toddler and I've hardly given it a thought.

cocaine_face · 2015-02-18T15:54:21+00:00

If you have sex with more than about 6ish people, you should assume you have either HSV1 or HSV2. Probably both. HSV1 does make you less likely to contract HSV2 by about 50%, IIRC.

Despite the fear-mongering, they're not big deals. Most doctors won't even test for them in an "STD test" unless you specifically ask, because they are so common and the freak-out is so high. The vast majority (> 80%) are asymptomatic and don't know they have the infection. For the small portion that do have symptoms, they're usually unnoticeable, and usually happen only 4-8 times in a lifetime (typically you feel a little under the weather - there may be a sore somewhere on your body that's hard to notice unless you go looking for it). That process is typically done within the first year or two, and your body has antibodies and the viral load is virtually undetectable as long as you have a healthy immune system.

So in short, don't worry about this. Herpes is mostly just a way for girls to slut shame other girls.

Source: I used to be terrified of STDs, and I've had sex with a lot of partners. As far as I'm aware, I have none (last time tested), but as I said, most doctors don't test for HSV.

TekkomanKingz · 2015-02-18T13:00:20+00:00

Guys HSV/HPV is unavoidable. Most people have it you were just unfortunate enough to have an immune system that doesn't block it or tolerate it well which leads to outbreaks. So the stigma I feel is evolutionary. Evolution dictates they want a mate who has an immune system strong enough to suppress a virus even though it still lives inside the body. Anybody who had chicken pox still has Herpes Zoster which can become Shingles as you age later. Try explaining this to a non-medically literate female will be futile.

My Wife has HSV-1 (oral) and I'm sure I have it as well but I don't have any symptoms and Docs can't really test unless you have sores. There is an expensive blood test which is only partially reliable available if you desperately need to know.

You got HSV-1 on your dick which is rare, because HSV-1 prefers the mouth. I'd say for any guy looking to avoid getting these things:

Always use protection no matter what the activity is as much as possible. A girl won't care if you get a cold sore but if you have even just a blister or boil down there (not from infection) they get the willies because they are uneducated and don't understand the human body.
Keep your immune system jacked. I have been around the town and never caught anything (at least that shows up on the blood test). Zinc is key in preventing viral transmission of all kinds.

Beef up your immune system to suppress future outbreaks by taking in more Zinc daily but no more than 40mg a day or you will have copper deficiency anemia.

moment_in_time · 2015-02-18T11:30:00+00:00

Can someone with knowledge please advise all on how to avoid such accidents. Also at what point/how is it best to ask a girl about her possible stds.

1independentmale · 2015-02-18T15:32:27+00:00

If you just need to fuck someone, I'd imagine there's a former plate of yours with herpes who would probably still be down.

Just sayin'.

FourLokoKills · 2015-02-18T15:52:21+00:00

Switch to herpes dating sites. There are many, and there are some hot and nice chicks on them. This might lead you to meeting some great girls. That's how I see it, at least. No big deal. Most people have some type of herpes anyway. Your life is not at all ruined in my opinion. This is an obstacle that might lead to a happier you in the long run.

constructiveasshole · 2015-02-18T11:00:37+00:00

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herewegoaga1n · 2015-02-18T12:44:23+00:00

Knew someone that intentionally passed the herp to his SO...and then dumped her once she was positive for "the happies". I even caught him trying to pawn off a dirty/laced shot glass on me. Luckily I've never caught it, but be careful where your cups come from in college settings.

0NIGGERS · 2015-02-18T13:14:56+00:00

i hate using them, but will reinforce the use of condoms. i have had chlamydia and a urinary tract infection before. it was terrible. thankfully, it was nothing serious. but you can imagine how scared i felt getting my blood drawn and simultaneously being tested for HIV/AIDS.

grewapair · 2015-02-18T16:27:04+00:00

There are herpes positive dating sites. A friend of my brother is on them and says it's mostly women, so his SMV went UP in that group.

nemaxofredpill · 2015-02-18T16:43:33+00:00

What the fuck. You already have herpes and it isn't curable so why the hell did you get rid of the girl? HAHA. JK bro. That sucks.

But in all seriousness....which type is it? If it is from a cold sore then it is herpes simplex 1 (HSV-1) then it will not keep showing up on your junk. It will go up to your lips. And honestly, the reports are that 90% of Americans have been exposed to HSV-1. Which are cold sores. They estimate that 62-85 percent (depending on age group) have it. I actually have the virus and got it from my mom when I was a child. I will have an outbreak on my lips if I get them sunburned so I make sure to keep sunblock chapstick on me anytime I am outside. Oh and I have found that I haven't had any "warnings" of a cold sore since I have been taking a regular dose of L-Lysine. It isn't a problem. But you shouldnt just out yourself to chicks unless it is herpes simplex 2 and you want her as a LTR.

But my regular knows I get cold sores but I wouldn't kiss her if I had one. I'd be like "No babe, no kisses right now. I have a cold sore". She always responds with "But I want to kiss you so bad. But OK." It's only a stigma if you make it that way. You are announcing it like you got gona-syfa-litus-aids.

NotQuiteRedPill · 2015-02-18T16:48:44+00:00

HSV does not show up a day later. That means...

You already had herpes.
You have herpes, but not genitally.
You don't have herpes because you wouldn't be diagnosed in a day.

First things first. Go get an IgG test. NOT IgM. IgG testing can check for HSV1 and HSV2 (though it can't tell you the location).

If you ever had cold sores growing up, you will test positive for HSV1 and it's unlikely you'll catch HSV1 again, genitally.

While "asymptomatic shedding" is a thing, I'd argue that if you don't have an outbreak or even some weird irritation you can't identify, you're not contagious at that moment.

I have grown up with cold sores and have never passed them. Part of the reason is even some weird mouth irritation makes me think "maybe it's a REALLY SUBTLE outbreak." And those exist, too. Outbreaks so minor, you didn't realize you were contagious at that moment.

Valacyclovir works wonders on cold sores also.

asd1100 · 2015-02-18T13:29:44+00:00

and neither of us knew she had a cold sore.

bullshit, she knew.

begged me to forgive her and said she loved me and had no idea she could transfer herpes to my dick when she didn't have symptoms

Yeah if it's preceded by beggin and I love you it's a lie.

It's transmittable just during your outbreak. Your partners are safe the rest of the time stop advertising it as aids or some other permanent STD and you'll be fine.

MrWoofles · 2015-02-18T10:25:30+00:00

Wow that sucks, you've pretty much put yourself off the market.

malandric · 2015-02-18T10:50:48+00:00

You no longer need to worry yourself with attracting women. Your SMP is now rock bottom. If you still have a high SMV then you can still function and continue on. Remember, TRP is more than just sex.

That said, yes women Lie about themselves. This includes being VD positive. I have encountered I and I almost ended up in your boat. A friend informed me of her condition.

Title	SMV and herpes
Author	constructiveasshole
Upvotes	26
Comments	70
Date	February 18, 2015 10:02 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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