This is one thing that I see alot of in this community, and it usually comes from men who are either still in the RedPill and curious about this community, or men that are leaving. Usually, its stated as: "The RedPill helped me better myself in some ways. I now workout and picked up a hobby. What's wrong with it when I bettered myself?" The answer is, theres nothing wrong with bettering yourself, in fact, I dont think anyone in this community is arguing otherwise. Self-improvement is a fantastic goal to have in life. The issue is, you don't need the RedPill community to better yourself. Sure, there might be some good in it, but it's also filled with alot of bullshit. As I've talked about in some comments, it usually has a rabbit hole effect. Initially, someone comes to the RedPill because they have had some tough luck with dating, had a very terrible breakup experience/got cheated on, or are a single dad that got screwed over in some way by their ex. They usually start off watching PUAs on YouTube, read some success stories in the subreddit, etc. The problem is, as they go deeper into it, they start seeing the common phrases such as: "Women are biologically incapable of loving you the way you love them, it's science!" "She's never really yours, it's merely your turn with her." "Alpha fucks, beta bucks." There's also the common arguments about hypergamy, and how women will leave you instantly the second that a better option comes around. And, furthermore, you're in an echo-chamber of men giving horror stories about how they got cheated on, used, manipulated, etc. With all of these components, it really isn't difficult to see how a man would decide to join MGTOW or inceldom. Sure, he can try to "be an alpha," but there's always going to be guys that are bigger, stronger, wealthier, higher status, taller, more attractive, etc. To many RedPill men, it becomes a terrifying waiting game, because, inevitably, a better man will come along no matter how much improvement you make.

The only reason I even post on this subreddit, and care, is because I used to be in the rabbit hole too. After getting out, and getting in a healthy longterm relationship, I want to try and prevent other guys from falling down the same hole. It started with a surge of self improvement, but ended in hopelessness as I started playing with the idea that I can never be loved truly. It's a really hopeless place to be, but most importantly, it's not even true. One of the healthiest alternatives to RedPill is simply asking men in longterm relationships for advice. The vast majority aren't RedPilled, but have success in other ways. The best people to get advice from are the ones who have what you want. Not some random middle aged dude on YouTube who calls himself "coach" and gives 0 personal details.