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I agree with others. I can literally approach any girl. And I used to approach EVERY hot girl I saw. After about 5 years of this I realized that the only girls I ended up hooking up with from this were newly arrived in the country. I did go on a few more dates, but none ever led to anything despite me trying. And I've watched and read every PUA product there is.
/r/seduction14/03/20 07:23 PM
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Do you really daygame to work? I find most of the numbers I get from daygame are flakes just trying to get rid of me. And I am a very sociable guy who has a lot of friends and frequently hosts parties. But all my friends are very religious so I use game to expand my circle.
/r/seduction14/03/20 07:19 PM
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Problem is that reading body language is extremely difficult. And I am a very well adjusted guy with many female friends. You can often approach a girl who looks totally open and get "blown out" and at other times you'll approach a girl who has her arms crossed and a resting bitch face and she'll be so happy you came to talk to her. I think the ideas you're saying above are just ad hoc canards, not particularly helpful to men. They are the kind of advice women on talk shows give to men that ensu…
/r/seduction10/10/19 05:02 AM
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The unspoken dichotomy here is that you say not to compliment. But you also say to be honest. Well, the reason I'm approaching is because I saw something worthy of compliment about her. So I can't possibly play by the rules you've laid out above (both be honest AND not compliment) other than going up and saying: hey I just saw you and I think I'd like to meet you. Which is literally what JMULV does. And he's also probably the creepiest pua I can think of.
/r/seduction10/10/19 04:53 AM
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Yes I do think something is up. Either they are looking for money or they want something. It's extremely rare they'd simply approach just to say hello.
/r/seduction10/10/19 04:47 AM
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This holds until you need to escalate. Because you're not just being friendly. You have a specific intention in mind that's beyond just making a new friend. Unless you don't. In which case you're in the wrong subreddit.
/r/seduction10/10/19 04:46 AM
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This is not "seduction" at all. This is a guy who met female friend at a festival. This kind of thing is so frequent at music festivals. Girls go for "good vibes". There's no sexual tension created here at all.
/r/seduction08/10/19 08:44 PM
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Yep, that sounds right. And that actually is a huge confidence boost for me. Because I'm constantly attributing flakes to my height. But, I can get probably 10-20% of girls whose numbers I get on dates. It's very good to know I'm probably attributing to myself what should be attributed to standard game expectations.
/r/seduction01/12/15 02:45 AM
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This is almost exactly what I do every time. It's a fun and non-invasive approach that works pretty often. I can get probably 50% of numbers. Tony, how often do you actually get girls on dates with this method? What kind of volume of this method should I be doing this with? Was this something you did 20x that day, or just once? My problem with videos like this is that they only show a very small portion of the exercise of game. Sasha had a video where he gets rejected 5+ times before he gets a n…
/r/seduction30/11/15 02:56 AM
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There is a flip side to this, though. You have to know when the girl is not interested or in a hurry and eject. You can't just try and push for the long conversation in every situation. Longer conversations are better, but they're not always possible.
/r/seduction30/11/15 02:52 AM
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When you say As a rule of thumb, I exchange 3-4 messages on Tinder, say we should meet up for drinks, and then ask for number so we can text. Do you mean 3-4 messages total in the conversation or 3-4 messages from you?
/r/seduction14/01/15 04:00 AM
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5'3" here. Some girls really care, some don't. Your odds will be better with shorter girls, although many here on seddit claim they give you more shit for your height. I never really get this. Girls shorter than me are way more responsive. You don't have to be some crazy alpha male. Most girls just love being approached and chatted to. I say this having done at least 500 lifetime approaches. Ask yourself what you're looking for. Do you want a girlfriend taller than you? I don't think I would. If…
/r/seduction17/08/14 02:12 PM
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First truly new actionable advice I've seen for short guys like us. Clubs are tough. They attract a really tall crowd. I find hanging out outside or in the chiller areas helps with height.
/r/seduction17/08/14 01:53 PM
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There is no real blanket answer to approach anxiety. Ask yourself how not approaching is negatively affecting your life. Focus on the great damage you are doing to yourself by not approaching. Rejection is never a big deal. There will always be another cute girl. Regrets stick with you much longer. I fear success more than failure I think. That's why I approach a ton but shy away from escalating.
/r/seduction17/08/14 01:19 AM
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Confidence is earned through assimilating these outward signs of success with self-worth. Only you can raise your self-worth. If you think all these "improvements" are superficial, you won't get a confidence boost. I think you have to ask yourself what you really want out of life and label some concrete steps that will help you get there. If you need help with the steps, find a mentor. Seduction/self-improvement is the capable ship on which you can ride to a better you. However, only you can gui…
/r/seduction14/08/14 12:00 PM
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Depending on school size, your type of approach may need to vary. If your school is under 5,000 people, don't cold approach often. If you see a really cute girl, do it, but don't just go around approaching everyone. You will get a reputation. Instead, be the guy the girls wants (and you should want too!). Be at every social event that is offered to you and have a hobby. The combination is deadly. At parties, invite girls to come do this hobby with you. Cute college chicks are often surprisingly …
/r/seduction29/07/14 12:17 PM
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I don't get a ton of creepy/non-receptive. Just a bunch of numbers that don't actually respond.
/r/seduction23/07/14 03:03 AM
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If you're getting bad results from this I'm curious, what do you consider to be bad results?
/r/seduction22/07/14 10:34 PM
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Girls often need to check their schedules though. What you do then?
/r/seduction22/07/14 10:33 PM
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But Julien told me to just open and calibrate after the fact.
/r/seduction10/07/14 11:52 PM
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Kino them when they do something that deserves a reaction. They tell a dumb joke...push their shoulder. They say something sad, lightly touch their upper arm and say you're sorry to hear it. They say something you playfully disagree with, nudge them. You are a physical being and touch is part of the way you communicate. You're not touching at this point to get sexual, you're touching to get personal. When you don't touch, a girl is going to assume you don't want to develop the relationship. So "…
/r/seduction05/07/14 03:34 AM
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Any intentional pause in conversation will work. There is no logic, just chemistry.
/r/seduction15/06/14 01:13 PM
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A lot of guys on here feel the need to make seduction about themselves. Sex and seduction are just as much about the women. Wanting sex and trying to get good at sex is not the same as self improvement. Tyler from RSD talks all the time about how there are a ton of guys in this effort that are really awesome guys. Rich, successful, fit and genuinely doing impressive things. Yes these things attract women, but not until they know about them. Game is about introducing women to your awesomeness. Se…
/r/seduction12/06/14 11:08 AM
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But come on, getting laid is self improvement.
/r/seduction11/06/14 11:13 PM
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I go and dance alone. I love it. Frees the soul.
/r/seduction07/06/14 06:09 AM
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I am the only one who thinks he needs to get out of this friendship with this toxic person? Don't surround yourself with heroin addicts and especially not in your home. There are far better women out there for you who might actually call you to be a better man, not just one who admires you for being tough on her.
/r/seduction30/05/14 11:26 AM
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I did starting strength. So Squats, DL, Press, Bench, some Powercleans. My body all grew, but my legs were already huge from hiking the Appalachian Trail (2000 miles in 100 days) a few years ago. Moral of the story: Don't take blanket advice from Reddit. Know your body type and improve it by tweaking your routine. Squats and big calories are not for everyone.
/r/seduction13/05/14 12:27 AM
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5'3 here. I envy you. Dat inch.
/r/seduction12/05/14 11:40 PM
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Could you cite this? As a 5'3 guy this could really boost my confidence.
/r/seduction12/05/14 11:39 PM
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No, what's awkward is looking up to a girl. Stooping down is simply inconvenient. You are so lucky you're tall. Being short makes things pretty tough, in both inner and outer game.
/r/seduction12/05/14 11:37 PM
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Wait, this girl showed signs of interest before you approached?
/r/seduction12/05/14 11:34 PM
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I have student loans. That is what my year of work is going towards. Not big travel plans. I vacation travel as best I can on this continent (been to NYC, DC, and soon Toronto) and got to travel to Portugal, Brazil and Spain in the past year for work. Not a terrible first year at a "real" job.
/r/seduction12/05/14 01:36 AM
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This is not for everyone. I did this and gained a ton of weight and can squat 300 as a 5'3 guy. I was grossly disproportionate. Eat healthy. Get to your ideal weight. Lift a bit if you want to bulk a bit. If you're skinny go for gains. If you're already chubby, don't go for gains.
/r/seduction12/05/14 01:33 AM
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Polarization in Models is about polarizing the girl, not yourself. It's about acting in a way that forces her to make a choice about you.
/r/seduction12/05/14 01:21 AM
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pleeeeeease!
/r/seduction06/05/14 01:28 AM
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I've done that too. It can come off as needy if done wrong (like anything else in seduction).
/r/seduction22/04/14 12:25 AM
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I have recently been thinking the same thing. For the past two years I've gotten 50+ numbers during cold approach daytime and ZERO dates. I do the quick hello->drop something unique about our interaction->ask for scheduling. It's a combo of Rob Judge and /u/TofuTofu style (yes I've read everything there is to read on this). I have meaningful daytime in-person conversations with many of these girls and many do seem genuinely interested. I don't have a definitive answer on this, but I can say that…
/r/seduction21/04/14 01:11 AM
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Could you provide the context to these convos? Was this after a quick daytime approach or a night of chatting/makeouts? How much had you spoken prior to these texts? You're not even telling them who you are so you must have had previous conversations to these.
/r/seduction21/04/14 01:06 AM
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I listened to it while driving to work over a month. Tyler spits gold. The series was awesome. I couldn't imagine sitting and watching him walk around a stage though.
/r/seduction09/04/14 01:52 AM
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Listen to RSD's Blueprint. It goes far beyond pickup into looking at yourself and your purpose. That coupled with Models has changed my outlook on life. And I'm a Philosophy major who is well read on these types of things.
/r/seduction09/04/14 01:51 AM
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I lost it last week to a chick on OK Cupid. I'm 25. It felt pretty good. She wasn't that attractive tho. I had a little talk with her about me being a virgin. She actually asked if I was because I was showing a lot of discomfort (religious guilt). Turned out I'm really damn good. She was cumming constantly for about an hour. Be thankful you're tall, there are many women who will want you just for that. You have to start talking to women and expressing our interest. Don't look for results. Expres…
/r/seduction08/04/14 01:23 AM
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"set" is unimportant. What she remembers and the followup.
/r/seduction26/03/14 11:17 PM
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When are you free this week? I like using that right in the convo. I also like the wing occupying the friend.
/r/seduction26/03/14 02:01 PM
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Repeat it and associate it with a memorable image.
/r/seduction26/03/14 01:59 PM
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TEXTBOOK
/r/seduction26/03/14 01:59 PM
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So do you just stop her in the middle of conversation and start making out? This is what I've started to do.
/r/seduction25/03/14 12:56 AM
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Maybe she's just not into that. Is she hetero and not religiously opposed? She's into that.
/r/seduction25/03/14 12:52 AM
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But this is so far from: Just do what you want and don't worry about it. That's true alpha behavior. that it really is no longer not "worrying" about it.
/r/seduction23/03/14 06:35 PM
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I instead wait until the end of the walk before I make out with her, then just when he make out is getting hot and heavy, I'll end the date but the escalation ladder told me to escalate early and often.
/r/seduction22/03/14 03:03 PM
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Girls will take everything you say literally. This is something that is crucially important, yet I don't see it stated here enough. Girls aren't mind-readers and oftentimes they are clueless to your intentions. You have to be clear in your intentions and yet subtly state them. A great example of this I have found is in day game. If you go up to a girl and say "HI I saw you, thought you were just so beautiful I HAD to say hello" and leave it there. Well, you're done. You told her you wanted to sa…
/r/seduction22/03/14 02:59 PM
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Same shit. Didn't feel like she was in the mood and didn't find the right time. I know it's bullshit. I just have to overcome the overwhelming urge to postpone escalation.
/r/seduction21/03/14 04:26 PM
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The field has fine-tuned your calibration. Ah. The words every guy on here wants to hear.
/r/seduction20/03/14 12:53 AM
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At what point do you start talking dirty? I was just on an OKC date and the conversation was mainly about things we both enjoy. At what point do you amp up the sexual talk?
/r/seduction14/03/14 01:14 AM
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I've read the SIDEBAR and probably the top 200 posts. My question seeks actionable advice on a situation that at least 49% of guys are going to have to deal with at some point.There is plenty out there about inner game on this, but very little on logistics. This should not have been removed, as it fits the rules of the subreddit.
/r/seduction09/03/14 09:53 PM
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Damn are you in USA?
/r/seduction08/03/14 02:45 PM
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Thanks, man. Even though I'm 25 I wish we could go out together. I need someone with some success to go out with. My friends now are all classically frightened of approaching. But I'm not going to just "get new friends" as so much seduction material advises. I like my friends! They're cool guys. Also, not sure to believe you with that username
/r/seduction08/03/14 02:13 PM
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When I used to "run" the Cube in the old days, it would often be surprisingly accurate. I can remember one time the girl's horse was big and black and she really likes big black dudes. Most of the time I would just pull shit our of my ass though and they ate it up.
/r/seduction06/03/14 02:56 AM
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I never talk to girls like this Incongruent. You are very comfortable and controlled. But maybe she just wants to feel special.
/r/seduction04/03/14 01:37 PM
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Ah the ole' mall pick up. I've spent many a Saturday. Really nice release after a tough week taking shit from the bosses. You seemed really rushed in this. I would slow down.
/r/seduction28/02/14 12:54 PM
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I was able to start approaching after about a month of reading game stuff. However, 3 years later I am still trying to learn to polarize women.
/r/seduction27/02/14 01:53 AM
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I go up to cute girls every weekend at bars. That's not enough. you have to push every interaction to either a rejection or her acceptance. No in between. Don't let a girl who hasn't said no walk away from you.
/r/seduction26/02/14 04:43 AM
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Thanks, Billy. Sounds like I've got some more "work" to do! I come from a house where if anything even remotely sexual pops on TV we have to change the channel. My mom still does this when I'm over (I'm 25). The going has been slow, but I've been on 22 dates and had about 12 kisses. Work to do, but I've made great progress from my all-boys high school days.
/r/seduction25/02/14 01:35 PM
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I've been going out, with pickup in mind, for 3 years.
/r/seduction25/02/14 12:58 PM
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But how do you choose whether to bounce to a quieter place or to get the number and text later in the night to meet?
/r/seduction24/02/14 11:31 PM
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Thanks, Mark. haha.
/r/seduction24/02/14 01:26 PM
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Thanks, Billy. I've always wondered how to handle the numbers game during the night. I often assume that the girl is logistically unable to meet up at the end of the night. Could you do one of these specifically on what you start doing with your numbers at 12pm?
/r/seduction24/02/14 01:23 PM
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Yes, I just did dinner at my place a couple weeks back. actually went for the makeout, but I was so disinterested in her that I couldnt bring myself to try for sex. I'm concerned that I am going out 2-3 nights a week, approaching 10-15 women a night, and maybe getting 2-3 of them to do anything with me. Half the weekends I get turned down on ALL my approaches. Could be that I'm often working college bars tho. Idk
/r/seduction18/02/14 01:27 PM
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Breaking all of Roosh's rules
/r/seduction18/02/14 01:12 AM
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Dead link. Got a mirror?
/r/seduction18/02/14 12:52 AM
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I'm pretty short (5'3") and whenever I fail I tend to blame it on my shortness. I've had successes: some dates, and plenty of club makeouts, but no pulls. How do you think I should relate to my shortness. Should I put on the blinders? The thing is, I have to acknowledge that chicks over 5'5" almost always reject me. What do you think. I'm not just trying to bitch here. I want to improve.
/r/seduction18/02/14 12:51 AM
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Imagine going to the bar and 90% of the girls are taller than you. It sucks.
/r/seduction15/02/14 08:04 PM
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People have schedules. It's OK to ask them if them what their schedule is. You just don't want to come off as always being available.
/r/seduction09/02/14 02:07 AM
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So much of this can be answered in one phrase: Take what you want.
/r/seduction31/01/14 01:14 AM
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Limiting Belief
/r/seduction30/01/14 12:25 AM
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I've read elsewhere in seddit to do this. I usually just caress the inner thigh. Vag is a little too much for the dance floor imo.
/r/seduction27/01/14 02:39 AM
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And judging from what she did at my party, she didn’t care much about me (if she did, she would’ve stayed) This is not necessarily the case. Don't read into things like this. Women live on the Western Wind. There are 10,000 reasons why she could have left when she did. Girls generally don't look at things from a perspective of singling out a person and going to their parties. You have to sweep them away and put yourself on the top of their mind. You had your 15 minutes to pull her in and you did…
/r/seduction26/01/14 03:31 PM
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Women have lives and schedules, too. Especially the one's I'm interested in! Sometimes asking what her schedule is like is needed. It was also reccommended by /u/tofutofu here.
/r/seduction21/01/14 01:30 PM
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When you first start going out alone you assume everyone has a radar for who each person is with at a bar. Then you realize, 90% of people don't care. The girls that ask you right away about "who you're with" are not worth pursuing. Proceed with your quest, unimpeded.
/r/seduction19/01/14 06:41 PM
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I didn't have the balls to just kiss her because I wasn't sure if she wanted me to. She came to your house and is sitting alone with you. She wants you to kiss her. That's that. There is no further instruction needed on this post. You need to internalize that this girl took the time out of here schedule and all the other dudes looking to hookup with her to come to YOUR place. She wants you.
/r/seduction19/01/14 06:38 PM
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I have done direct for about 2 years. "Hey I saw you and thought you were really cute. I had to meet you. Hi, I'm magicroot." This almost always yields a "Thanks", handshake and their name, and a quick departure. They're usually very friendly about it, but it has not been effective.
/r/seduction16/01/14 01:38 PM
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You've "scared the cat" as Roosh says. You are no longer a bystander, but an interested guy. That makes her go into club-girl mode. If you're good looking, maybe that will speed things up, if not, you're screwed. A compliment is fine, just not to her in general. It has to be on a specific, non-sexual thing. Just because you're a high-value man doesn't mean you should say whatever you want wherever. You became high-value because you're smart about what you say.
/r/seduction16/01/14 03:09 AM
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Read Day Bang from Roosh V. He lays it all out very well. Don't do direct approaches like saying "your cute". I've done this about 1000x with very limited success. Start up a conversation. I don't care what it's about. But make her say something remotely intelligent. You don't want her to think you just came up to compliment her. Also, remember that this girl is thinking about the moment, not your future relationship. If you ask her to hang out, she will almost always think you mean right then a…
/r/seduction15/01/14 11:54 PM
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I don't know how I feel about that. I want to have sex with someone I'm attracted to. Sure I want to get better, I don't want sex just to be a check-mark of things I have to do to get better. Plus, baby steps.
/r/seduction14/01/14 04:00 AM
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Just got my first date makeout tonight! Girl is cool, but I'm really not attracted at all. I'm still very happy with myself for going for it.
/r/seduction14/01/14 03:37 AM
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I feel like everyone always has a "personal reason" for being single. Shit, I'm a really cool guy with a pretty sweet resume. I don't have a gf because I have never felt deeply connected to a woman. I want to , but I haven't. Probably did 5 dates last year and kissed 5-7 girls.
/r/seduction13/01/14 03:45 AM
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After 3 years of approaching, and no girlfriend, I agree, approach. But don't expect super fast results. If you have high standards in women, it takes a long time.
/r/seduction13/01/14 03:43 AM
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Roosh? Is that you?
/r/seduction12/01/14 10:54 PM
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That is a damn good lay rate. Makes me wonder why, when I sent out 150 OKC messages, I got 0 lays or dates.
/r/seduction07/01/14 11:28 PM
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Wow, as a 5'3" guy I thought for sure my 10% rate of interested women was because of my height and that most guys do a lot better. Seems I have been mistaken. Thanks for asking this question.
/r/seduction02/01/14 02:00 AM
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This is where I disagree with a lot of seduction material. As humans, we are hardwired to seek sex as a primary goal. Replication is king. You can have a great career, a sick hobby, or a ton of awesome friends, but at the end of the day these things DO NOT make you good with women and they do not supplant sexual desire. I think we should recognize that we are sexual beings and that having women as a primary goal is OK, as long as we control the goal, not it controlling us.
/r/seduction29/12/13 04:37 PM
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There are so many posts on Seddit like this with no followup. I have done approaches similar to the above probably 200+ times now. In all likelihood, this girl texts back once or twice, flakes on the date, and the two completely lose touch within a week and and a half.
/r/seduction26/12/13 05:02 AM
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Girls love sex more than men. They just aren't as desperate for it so they don't have to be thinking about it as much.
/r/seduction23/12/13 04:32 AM
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Troll toll
/r/seduction18/12/13 04:51 AM
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Hi works well in situations where the approach is expected (friend get-toegthers, parties, uni gatherings) but cold approaching with "hi" often leaves girls confused. Don't scare the cat!
/r/seduction11/12/13 01:05 AM
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Sex is not a complicated surgery. Open legs, insert penis.
/r/seduction10/12/13 01:33 PM
2

As a guy who has done a lot of daytime approaching of women, NO ONE CARES. They think your an old friend, or a lost shopper, or curious about something the girl is doing. While you are out to "approach", everyone else is just going about their day, and they figure you're probably doing the same.
/r/seduction10/12/13 01:31 PM
0

Yea, but you kill them with vinegar. They just end up rotting in your house with honey. My intention was not to break them up. It's just that I want her to know that I'm OK with being just friends, but would prefer more.
/r/seduction07/12/13 09:21 PM
1

As a short guy, I envy you Militant Ugly guy.
/r/seduction07/12/13 05:50 PM
1

I know this fluctuates, but what range of women are usually interested in you any given night out? I usually perceive that it is 1/10 for me. I'm 5'3" and approach everyone though, so that lowers my numbers. How long do you generally take to go in for the kiss? I realize seddit doesn't like these kinds of questions, but all the guys I usually go out with tend to be far more shy than I so I don't have good benchmarks on these things.
/r/seduction26/11/13 01:42 PM
1

How often, out of the approaches you do in a night, do you go for the kiss? I get discouraged a lot because many girls just seem to not be into it. I'm trying to figure out if its just me looking for too much, or that only a few of the many girls I approach will be into it.
/r/seduction26/11/13 03:40 AM
1

But WHEN? My conversations always go down the interview road where we're talking about where we live and what we do. Can I just go from this to lean in and make out if she is into the chat?
/r/seduction26/11/13 12:50 AM
1

You better be fuckin glad. 5'3" here. 75% of the girls out are taller than me. Sucks balls being evolutionarily inferior. I get interest, but it takes more work.
/r/seduction15/11/13 02:38 AM
1

Yea. Talking about faith with others is a tough balance to strike. I don't want to force anything on anyone or even come off as "I'm right, you're wrong". But I do want to share this cool thing that I've got that I feel few atheists/non-Christians really get to encounter. They get the facts, but to encounter faith is an entirely different experience of oneself.
/r/seduction31/10/13 02:13 AM
7

As a serious Catholic on this thread to get better with girls, don't let this guy taint your view of faith. After having described Catholic sexual morality to my atheist friend he college he admitted that "that is far more beautiful than what I believe". Sex is an act of self-gift. It is a moral act inherently because it occurs between two human beings. Lust does not equal sexual attraction. Lust is desiring your own pleasure over that of the other person and their own being. I'd love to go on a…
/r/seduction30/10/13 03:36 AM
1

Yes, but the reality of being short does play a factor in our interactions with women. 5'3" here as well. Many taller girls will laugh or be confused you are even trying with them. This suck, but has no bearing on confidence/personality. Do you go for tall girls at bars? What is your strategy for picking out girls to approach?
/r/seduction16/10/13 03:07 AM
0

The close is the act of the man going for it. The kiss or fuck is the act itself.
/r/seduction09/10/13 01:38 AM
1

Remember your death. It is coming. Might as well do some fun shit beforehand.
/r/seduction03/10/13 11:14 PM
1

This is insane for a newb. You plowed through a lot of crap there at the club/bar. Well done. You're probably attractive, which means you've got an edge. Use it. As a 5'3" guy that's still a virgin after 2 years of constant day and night game, use your height as a massive ego booster. You are lucky.
/r/seduction02/10/13 10:23 PM
1

She said she get hit on 8-10x when she spends a day out in London. She did not say she spends every day out on the town. She could go mainly during busy days inflating the numbers.
/r/seduction21/09/13 01:47 AM
2

This is my past year of soloing at bars. really hit home. don't go so late next time. if you want to get some warm sets to start the night, go early when guards are down. even I, the uber-virgin 5'3 hyper catholic guy struggling with his sexuality has made out and gone home with one girl. If you persist, you will get what you want. advice for pickup, advice for life.
/r/seduction20/09/13 11:06 PM
-8

Or dude wrote the whole thing and she approved it.
/r/seduction20/09/13 11:00 PM
0

Yea, I feel like half the day games vids I've seen are from London.
/r/seduction20/09/13 10:58 PM
1

I wonder how many PUA's have approached her.
/r/seduction20/09/13 10:57 PM
2

Reality check: 99% are not going to be nice. There are bitches out there and certain bars have more than others. Some girls get bitchy when you approach. What I've found, though, is that hotness is not an indicator of bitchiness.
/r/seduction20/09/13 10:53 PM
1

Try to count the number of blinks they make. Gives you a "reason" to look.
/r/seduction19/09/13 12:27 PM
1

yes, thats true. Im want tryin to hate, either. Just noting some important variables for guys who may be confused as to why they don't get similar results. I was terrible in collefe. College is easier game, but not easy.
/r/seduction19/09/13 12:12 PM
2

In 2 yrs of direct daygame approaching I know: direct will get you a ton of numbers, and very few dates when a girl says you have a lot of confidence it is because you don't appear like you're comfortable approaching (which is fine). dont get discouraged if none of these 20 numbers work out.
/r/seduction19/09/13 12:50 AM
1

Dude. I am in your exact boat. I employ all the non-needy tactics, text hardly at all, and get a TON of flakes from my daytime approaches. Them promising to go out/see me again means absolutely nothing to me anymore. I need a time and place confirmed.
/r/seduction19/09/13 12:45 AM
1

I have been on Seddit for almost two years. I have had maybe 4 makeouts. I get a ton on flakes, find it super difficult to get dates. I am funny, a good conversationalist, even run up kino pretty well. My fear now is that I am simply too short (5'3") to have any lasting success with hot women. I do a ton of approaches and probably 90% of them don't hook. I'll go nights with all blowouts/rejections on the dance floor. Can a short guy like me reasonably expect to be having frequent sex with really…
/r/seduction17/09/13 02:39 AM
1

When you're drunk you don't think that she is uncomfortable with you grabbing and feeling her. You figure since you like it, she likes it. So you just do it. And when you do it, sometimes she will like it.
/r/seduction17/09/13 02:35 AM
1

Approaching is addictive. The thrill of never knowing what's gonna happen intrigues me.
/r/seduction09/09/13 09:48 PM
1

I'm 24, just graduated college and moved back to my home state. I am now living in an apartment complex and town that is generally filled with cute college girls. What's my strategy here?
/r/seduction07/09/13 07:04 PM
3

As a 5'3" guy this was cringeworthy. Terrible body language. Notice him constantly looking around during pauses in conversation. Crossing arms. Hands in pockets. I can feel for him; he feels the inherent difficulty in trying to pick up a significantly taller girl. Focusing on this difference I think is not a good idea. Don't remind her of a flaw in your sexual value. This guy's style is really gimmicky and try-hard. He goes into these interactions with the attitude that they are difficult. The s…
/r/seduction07/09/13 05:48 PM
1

Not that. I was thinking of ways to pull.
/r/seduction05/09/13 10:57 PM
3

This is a point of contention I think. Coffee is VERY casual, so it lends itself to the friendzone for us guys that aren't naturally assertive with women. I'd push more for going to a park or bowling or art gallery or anything that involves movement. Just do something you do all the time; with her. Coffee dates often feel contrived and not fun enough for me.
/r/seduction05/09/13 12:20 PM
1

I just moved out from my parents house. Newly have my own place with a roommate. What should I be doing to make full use of having a place and being on my own?
/r/seduction05/09/13 12:17 PM
2

I've been at this a while and don't have much to show. I'm really good at opening and holding conversations, but it almost always enters my head that she is not into anything sexual, especially with me. How can I get over this mental block? Should I just kiss/touch girls in the middle of this feeling and see what happens.
/r/seduction27/08/13 12:00 AM
1

Dude. You F Close 1 in 4 approaches. That is UNREAL skill right there.
/r/seduction09/06/13 04:11 PM
7

No, just searched "Mohler Labs" cuz I'm a creeper.
/r/seduction09/06/13 02:16 AM
3

Lehigh?
/r/seduction08/06/13 10:35 PM
10

Welcome to Game. This reaction will happen pretty often. Probably about 1/3 of the time. Don't worry, she doesn't hate you, she just doesn't care.
/r/seduction08/06/13 10:31 PM
4

That quote really shouldn't be given to Brad. It is far older than he.
/r/seduction08/06/13 10:30 PM
1

This is a followup on a recent thread he made thanking Seddit.
/r/seduction02/06/13 05:35 PM
1

If there is one thing that will kill any chance of being successful with game it'd be living in the fucking suburbs. This doesn't get said enough here. The suburbs suck.
/r/seduction02/06/13 05:32 PM
0

That gets said ALL the time on here.
/r/seduction02/06/13 02:12 AM
0

He is a weird dude.
/r/seduction31/05/13 12:43 AM
1

I'm two and a half years in and probably mid-intermediate. Some of us have a lot of baggage. I'm still working out what I really want from women.
/r/seduction31/05/13 12:42 AM
3

In this case, go hard and go home.
/r/seduction27/05/13 12:56 PM
1

This story is great. My warning, and I see this a lot on FR's, is that giving you a number is not an indicator of her true interest. Did she go on a date with you? We all want to hear how this went.
/r/seduction25/05/13 07:38 PM
2

You obviously don't live in an American Exurb. No girls to be seen anywhere.
/r/seduction24/05/13 12:48 AM
2

If I've learned anything reading seddit and absorbing pretty much all the material available online it is that girls are unpredictable. You should NEVER predict that a girl won't be attracted to you.
/r/seduction23/05/13 11:51 PM
1

Sounds like a flake waiting to happen. But I hope it works out!
/r/seduction23/05/13 11:47 PM
0

Dude, you don't need a cheesy line to kiss her. Just go for it. The method will come as you fail a few times.
/r/seduction21/05/13 10:37 PM
1

What would you have done had she not brought up kissing? Were you seated next to her or across? Did you kino from the very beginning?
/r/seduction19/05/13 09:08 PM
0

Why should they care you're using an "opener"? Are they offended you are approaching them? If so...NEXT!
/r/seduction19/05/13 09:02 PM
1

Pickup is impressive. Guys who are good at pickup do impress. That's the bottom line. Regardless of evolution, men who are good with women have achieved something that not many can claim.
/r/seduction19/05/13 06:20 PM
2

While this has some truth, I've seen many very successful posts here about how when you have a girl you need seddit that much more.
/r/seduction18/05/13 01:43 PM
1

Body Language is what RSD Tyler would call a micro-calibration. It is something that is extremely difficult to change willfully. Do the 7 things above and your body will naturally communicate more confidence over time. I don't like "fake it till you make it". I like messing up again and again until you find what works for you. Facades will always fall under pressure.
/r/seduction17/05/13 12:41 AM
1

Girls are never asking to be hit on. We can't read minds. An average guy that wants to be successful with women should not fear talking to women in public places. I'm not saying we should hit on women. I'm saying that we should make friendly conversation and let the girl decide if they want to let things go further or not.
/r/seduction12/05/13 05:52 PM
1

I agree on the approaching from behind. It's chode behavior. Be a man and face the possibility of rejection head on. You shouldn't fuckin care if some random drunk girl didn't want to dance with you at that particular moment. You also did nothing wrong. You were a man and sexually approached a woman. That is our biological imperative. What is the bestselling women's book? 50 shades. Women dream about being dominated and lead around. I think guys should do it, then stop if she says no. I don't th…
/r/seduction11/05/13 12:48 AM
1

unless...he's attractive.
/r/seduction11/05/13 12:38 AM
3

Keep in mind that this is only the case if you have full beard growth. For us guys with patchy beards, its best to just stick to the shaven look.
/r/seduction04/05/13 04:59 PM
3

5'3" here. Since I come off super confident most of the time, girls rarely react differently to the height thing.
/r/seduction29/04/13 02:01 AM
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Nothing has touched the RSD Blueprint for me.
/r/seduction24/04/13 01:06 AM
1

I feel like this shouts: We're not interesting enough, let's observe other people.
/r/seduction20/04/13 02:57 PM
1

You're thinking way too far ahead.
/r/seduction15/04/13 12:44 AM
1

I think the "approach" mentality creates a bit of a contrived feel to the situation. Think of it more as running into cute girls throughout the night. As they enter your world, you engage them. They can either choose to stay, or leave. But it's your world, not theirs that comprises your evening. As long as your world is one of joy and fun, you had a great night.
/r/seduction15/04/13 12:43 AM
2

What I've gained from two years of approaching: Stop thinking. When your gut tells you to approach, do it. When your gut tells you that it kinda would like to be holding the girl, do it .When your gut tells you to make out, do it. Don't ask what the mods on here would do. Don't ask what Mystery or Tyler would do. Ask yourself what YOU want, and do it. Searching for the perfect seductive way to do something is counter-productive. Last night I ended up trying to kiss a girl the night before her we…
/r/seduction10/02/13 09:43 PM
1

And she was Belgian. That didn't hurt her.
/r/seduction08/02/13 02:14 AM
1

Awesome FR. You got F-closed.
/r/seduction08/02/13 01:06 AM
2

I have been wondering when the hell is the right time to initiate a makeout. Every time I go out I tell myself I'm going to go for it, then the night goes by and I don't feel like I had any opportunities. This gave me a little glimpse into the mindset I need to take. Thanks.
/r/seduction07/02/13 01:41 AM
1

Go out and figure out what works for you. Start at hyper aggressive and unabashed, then move to backing off if you need to. A huge problem with a ton of guys' game, including myself, is thinking that you build UP to being physically assertive. No, you've got to start by going too far, then bring it down to the level where you aren't being constantly called creepy. Your problem is not a common one. Enjoy that.
/r/seduction03/02/13 06:33 PM
2

Reward positive behavior. Ignore or eliminate (by dumping her) negative behavior. Continue living the good life.
/r/seduction03/02/13 06:28 PM
3

You have not lurked hard enough. Seduction is about becoming a man with a deep sense of purpose who can communicate this effectively with women. The only thing that makes it a "game" is the sense that most of us find it FUN. There is some validity to the fact that some girls put on what are probably unnecessarily harsh bitch-shields. But who are we to say that? I don't know what kind of shit that girl has put up with. Try and give your fellow woman the benefit of the doubt!
/r/seduction02/02/13 03:10 PM
1

Guess I'll just have to go out and gain my own experience.
/r/seduction02/02/13 02:38 PM
3

I want way more infield. I've heard every quip of wisdom in the book. Listened to all of Foundations and The BluePrint. I've read every damn manual I could get my hands on. It's all great (well, most of it). But seeing this shit in practice via in-field videos is even more powerful and its not something we see enough of.
/r/seduction01/02/13 03:11 AM
2

The hand out thing is the best. Easy to gauge her interest. Most of the time the girl will take your hands and started dancing.
/r/seduction28/01/13 02:57 AM
11

This is disingenuous. Be authentic. Touch her because you want to, not to employ a "secret weapon". If you're there with her, you are her boyfriend. It's not a technique. Women live in the emotional moment and you are her man in that moment. You don't have to pretend. You are that man.
/r/seduction21/01/13 01:13 PM
1

It is a big deal for some of us. Period. Fact is, kissing is a very intimate act.
/r/seduction20/01/13 10:03 PM
17

This hits home. I can game all night long. I'm a champion of jokes and lines. I am an epicly good dancer. I can even isolate girls. But I almost never close. It's a huge hangup I have which I caused by a mix of my strong religious upbringing, fear of rejection, and fear of acting in a way that she finds completely inappropriate. Any quick little line to help me feel "allowed" to kiss her is going to help. I know this is not the ideal core intentional Alpha response to kissing, but I'm just not t…
/r/seduction20/01/13 09:55 PM
2

Ended up talking only about politics and religion because she asked. We were completely different. Less of a date and more of a debate. Was fun, but not sexy.
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:15 AM
3

Genius!
/r/seduction15/01/13 04:29 PM
1

All I thought after reading: Did you kiss her?
/r/seduction15/01/13 03:16 AM
1

I always end up either going too hard/aggressive or too chode. I'd rather be too aggressive.
/r/seduction15/01/13 03:15 AM
1

I genuinely would like an answer to this question. Not inner game advice. While that stuff is good. Having realistic goals is a key in being successful.
/r/seduction14/01/13 03:36 AM
1

So if you didn't go for it first date should you give up?
/r/seduction09/01/13 03:23 AM
3

You must listen to Tyler's RSD Blueprint. Just finished it. Insanely powerful program about deep identity change, not just pickup routines.
/r/seduction09/01/13 03:05 AM
13

You took a chance kissing her. I went out last night for coffee with a girl that was totally receptive but I simply didn't try. You are a man amongst boys.
/r/seduction09/01/13 03:03 AM
1

hmmm, no less than 24 hours? I follow almost right away with a quick text that involves something "inside" between us and -my name. Then I follow usually the 2nd day between 11-4pm
/r/seduction31/12/12 12:52 PM
1

When I ask for concrete plans, she usually says that she doesn't know her schedule and for me to text.
/r/seduction31/12/12 02:12 AM
12

Warning, guys, this was written for 2012. 2013 girls are slotted to be completely different.
/r/seduction30/12/12 09:48 PM
7

You are waiting for a sign that almost no woman you will ever meet will give you. This hit home for me. I always thought if I just hung out at places with girls, that things would magically escalate. Never did. 23 and just starting to learn that.
/r/seduction24/12/12 06:11 PM
7

you got a freaking k-close after one approach? Unreal. Took me a year.
/r/seduction23/12/12 02:00 AM
1

I think you're confusing value and quality. Value takes into account the worth an object has to a person or society. Rarity can play a role in this picture. Quality, however, is a trait that occurs when an object does what it was meant to do extremely well. It does not imply scarcity.
/r/seduction19/12/12 01:18 PM
1

No, but I don't plan on asking if I can have sex with them either. That might just guarantee it isn't going to happen. BTW, waiter here.
/r/seduction19/12/12 01:21 AM
1

Counterexample: There are a ton of high quality vehicles on the road today, the safest of any era.
/r/seduction19/12/12 01:20 AM
13

A fisherman never takes advice from fish...
/r/seduction18/12/12 09:23 PM
1

High quality is not by definition rare.
/r/seduction18/12/12 09:18 PM
2

I don't know, I like the idea of getting new girls. The freshness and freedom of the cold approach has a great appeal to me. My idea is not to have found 20 girls to call, but confidence that you can get with ANY girl you want.
/r/seduction18/12/12 03:28 AM
5

This stuff works 10% of the time. We all get rejected A LOT. The good PUA's are the ones that can manage this and keep going.
/r/seduction16/12/12 04:20 PM
3

Oddly enough, hearing it worked once or twice before on here gives me confidence to use it. I'd venture to say this principle is the driving force in any of us even bothering to read Seddit.
/r/seduction10/12/12 01:03 PM
8

This is the kind of concrete logistical information that Seddit often deeply lacks. I will be implementing this on my next night out, which is hopefully very soon!
/r/seduction10/12/12 03:26 AM
1

Face-to-face on the dancefloor, lay your hand out before them. If they accept and let you spin them, you're golden. If they don't take your hand, insist ONCE more. If she turns down the second time, it's not worth it.
/r/seduction09/12/12 04:20 PM
5

One caveat: Girls during the day are often going places. So are you presumably. Sticking around and chatting for more than 5 minutes with anyone is often not possible.
/r/seduction07/12/12 09:18 PM
1

All the time. And then I approach them and discover they are the same as everybody else. Sometimes bitchy, sometimes super friendly, sometimes really into you, sometimes not. Sure, I've had those insanely hot 5'10" girls look down on my 5'3" person and think I'm joking them. I'm not. And they will know that before I go.
/r/seduction24/11/12 05:13 PM
4

I'm not an insanely good PUA, but I am a very good dancer at bars/clubs. Sure, watch some Youtube videos. Find your style. But most importantly, FEEL THE MUSIC. Let it take over your body. If you do that, people will respect you. As for dancing with girls: just put out you hand and assume she is going to take it. If she doesn't: rinse and repeat.
/r/seduction24/11/12 05:00 PM
3

I think we all do this. I have found myself watching Romantic Comedies, Gossip Girl, Gilmore Girls, Dawson's Creek, and all that stuff. It's fine to like those shows, but Serena, Blair, Rory, and Joey Potter are all figments of what producers think viewers want women to be like. We all know this, but we forget it. There is good news, however; women do this too. Sweep them up out of the Gossip Girl/Cosmo/Perez Hilton world and into yours. Yours is much more interesting.
/r/seduction24/11/12 04:57 PM
13

I am NOT a big fan of the whole "social value" paradigm. The girls you want don't care if you went to an Ivy League School or ran Marathon in under 3 hours. You ARE a man right now. Don't underestimate that. Being a male gets you 85% of the way there.
/r/seduction22/11/12 10:14 PM
1

If the goal is selfish, then sure. My goal is to find a mutually beneficial relationship. Screw going out to play people.
/r/seduction22/11/12 08:12 PM
2

Here me out. I'm Catholic and "waiting". Yikes, I know. But I don't think there is a fine line where a relationship is sexual or asexual. If two people are really sexually into one another but choose, mutually, to allow that desire to be unrealized for a while, the sexuality is still there. I've seen it done many times and turned into some awesome, sex filled marriages.
/r/seduction21/11/12 01:30 AM
0

I believe you can't draw very much from this. I'm not saying it's worthless, but the OP is overplaying its value. He's being approached, yes, but in the way a waiter approaches a table at a restaurant, not in the way we approach girls at the bar. They don't want a meaningful relationship, sex, or even a makeout, they want money. Different. The most successful stripper is the hottest stripper.
/r/seduction21/11/12 01:26 AM
9

Nope, I read the whole thing. I believe trying to learn from a stripper how to approach is inherently flawed. The techniques they are using are to get men to do what they came to the place to do in the first place. They can be far more forward without coming off as creepy. An approach is always situational, and a stripper's situation is almost never the one we are in.
/r/seduction21/11/12 12:14 AM
-16

None of them give a flying fuck about you. They want your money so they can feed their kids or their addiction to drugs, clothes, jewelry, or whatever else tickles their fancy. You want to be a man with women, or a salesman?
/r/seduction20/11/12 11:27 PM
1

Have you asked for numbers? Have you asked for dates? Don't expect girls to take any steps for you. Move with the assumption that every cell in their body is dying that you see through their neutrality and you ask them out. Or whatever other things you'd like to do.
/r/seduction19/11/12 07:15 PM
-1

Relevant
/r/seduction19/11/12 07:09 PM
1

I went on a first date and we ended at a bar sitting across the table. She said she felt like it was interview style so I quickly told her to jump over to my side. She did but I didn't kino. Date quickly ended.
/r/seduction14/11/12 01:41 AM
1

When he said: "Have you heard of Starcraft 2?" I cringed so hard.
/r/seduction13/11/12 06:33 PM
1

This reminds me of myself
/r/seduction13/11/12 06:31 PM
1

I don't like assuming that there is going to be a relationship between you. She needs to prove herself worthwhile before that.
/r/seduction13/11/12 06:31 PM
5

How do you know why I'm there?
/r/seduction11/09/12 04:51 PM
2

What if it's at a restaurant waiting tables?
/r/seduction11/09/12 12:58 PM
6

I have seen that said. My comment was in reference to squarehouse's statement that women are drawn to two intimacies, infants (motherly) and men (submissive). Everytime a girl calls you "so cute" or "adorable", chances are she is mothering you and not interested in you sexually. This I have not seen elsewhere. The fish quote is great and definitely right as well.
/r/seduction11/09/12 12:54 PM
41

The burden of escalation is on us. If you don't escalate, she won't. I've thought for years that if I talked to girls (Now I do unrelentingly) everything would fall into place. No, you've got to lead her from approach to close, all the way. You wimp out anywhere along the way, she won't and shouldn't carry you to the next step. If you want her, you've got to try and take her with you. That's scary as hell to me for some reason, but I know it's true.
/r/seduction11/09/12 03:14 AM
23

You are the first person I have seen say this on Seddit. It makes perfect sense though. Beta guys are playing the role of infants.
/r/seduction11/09/12 03:11 AM
1

You have a cock. Use this one simple endowment to not give a flying fuck about your height. They want cock.
/r/seduction10/09/12 08:32 PM
1

Don't help them lift boxes just to get a chance to talk to them. Help them because you want to help them and think they're hot. If you just want to chat, keep walking, because they are lifting boxes and will be unreceptive.
/r/seduction10/09/12 01:46 AM
2

She is the "idea of her". A girlfriend is a mentally constructed social tango.
/r/seduction09/09/12 02:57 PM
1

Unlikely, its Justin Bieber
/r/seduction09/09/12 02:56 PM
-2

This has been here already.
/r/seduction07/09/12 02:32 PM
1

In the words of Pitbull: Hallelujah, have a blessed day.
/r/seduction07/09/12 02:31 PM
2

Because I live in the 'burbs and often meet girls in the city at friend's gatherings, this happens to me sometimes. If I don't get a number, how do I proceed on Facebook? Is there any hope?
/r/seduction07/09/12 02:29 PM
1

You are only as interesting as you think you are. Instead of trying to convince yourself of your interestingness, go chat with some guys you find interesting. What are they doing? Go do it. Don't Google, "Interesting things to attract women" Don't do things just to look cool to women. Get off your ass and meet cool men who you can emulate. Then carve out your own niche out of all the things you like best about them.
/r/seduction07/09/12 02:24 PM
1

He doesn't even close.
/r/seduction05/09/12 03:03 AM
1

I bombed it. It was a bad move. Killed my "flow" as Tyler Durden might say. I was trying to live in the moment.
/r/seduction30/08/12 02:10 PM
1

It's if you try to find reasons, you will never find any. This is definitely not the way I see it. I can find 1000 reasons not to do it. She must have a boyfriend, she looks bitchy, she's engrossed in conversation, she doesnt want to be bothered or interrupted, it's "girls" night she won't want to talk to me, she won't find me attractive, she's taller than me, she's hotter than me, she will think I'm weird for randomly coming up to her. The list goes on...
/r/seduction30/08/12 06:37 AM
1

I've thought about the running issue. I do think a quick walk-break is a worthwhile sacrifice for chatting up a beautiful woman. Obviously, if your timing yourself or running a marathon, fuck talking, but otherwise just slow down and do a quick intro and go for the #/meetup. It really won't hurt your workout at all. How long you stay in set in entirely up to you.
/r/seduction30/08/12 06:34 AM
1

Question, Nick. Do you keep pushing to build attraction on the girls who have what I call a low buying temperature or do you seek out the women that respond positively right away to your approach?
/r/seduction29/08/12 11:59 PM
1

Right, you should be approaching and escalating with purpose. "Why Not" makes it sound as if you have no better way to spend your time.
/r/seduction29/08/12 05:52 PM
6

This is one of the best writeups I have ever seen. Your attention to every possible situation is really helpful. The DiCarlo Ladder is utilized best in very different ways depending on the venue, time, and your history with the girl. This captures that well. Good work!
/r/seduction29/08/12 05:47 PM
2

I don't agree. "Why not?" recognizes there could be reasons to not do it. "Why?" emphasizes the reasons you ought to do it. You should have reasons, otherwise, you're letting game run you instead of you running game.
/r/seduction29/08/12 12:41 PM
1

So what your saying is: "get rejected a few times until you figure it out"
/r/seduction28/08/12 01:45 PM
1

What indicates comfort? Many times it feels like she is OK with it, but not particularly happy about it.
/r/seduction28/08/12 02:20 AM
1

I know DiCarlo, I've been reading this stuff for a long time. What I have trouble with is knowing when is the right time to escalate.
/r/seduction28/08/12 01:45 AM
1

I do this and I touch when I ask her something important. But, I simply don't know what to do after this. There have been a few time when I've had a girl in my lap or around my arm, but this is because they were extremely receptive to my touching. Should I be escalating only on the girls that are extremely receptive?
/r/seduction28/08/12 12:05 AM
0

As a kino novice, can you please elaborate on the kino you used?
/r/seduction27/08/12 10:45 PM
1

This is the general impression I get reading field reports. Most of them end in a K or F close. Considering the number of noobs on here, very unlikely. Or at least not worth reporting.
/r/seduction24/08/12 12:35 PM
2

I edited. I definitely could do this, girls give out their numbers like its nothing. I don't really even consider a number a "close". Its an indication of a small chance that a close could happen if you play your cards right.
/r/seduction23/08/12 10:32 PM
0

But no PUA guy will accept this until every tone and defined man has been rejected by her. And with them, I stand.
/r/seduction23/08/12 09:18 PM
3

That closes happen all the time. EDIT for clarification: I mean K-Closes and beyond, as well as actual first dates.
/r/seduction23/08/12 09:06 PM
1

They never do.
/r/seduction23/08/12 06:10 PM
1

This is terrible advice. Go talk to real live girls.
/r/seduction23/08/12 01:01 AM
-1

So one girl that already agreed to go the mall with you liked the smell of a cologne. I do not see how this helps anyone at all.
/r/seduction23/08/12 01:00 AM
-2

TY Durd is a megalomaniac who treats himself like a fucking god. His advice may work, but he is a major douche-cake.
/r/seduction21/08/12 02:55 PM
2

Ugh, I've been like 150x. nothing.
/r/seduction21/08/12 03:43 AM
1

First date - This can be a little more tricky Just learned this tonight. I am a "kino master", as my bro's call me, in the club. But one-on-one having a meal picnic style was much more difficult to find an opening. This is how PUA works: you unlock one level only to find that the next one is even more challenging.
/r/seduction21/08/12 03:30 AM
1

I have had no success doing the following direct approach at least 50x: Excuse me, you are extremely cute, I had to meet you, I'm magicroot75. I get a positive response, but they want to move on to whatever they were doing at the mall. Still working on this one...
/r/seduction21/08/12 03:25 AM
2

Maybe it is a small contingent, but I had a girl that absolutely loved the hell out of me sitting down at a club. Making out, sitting on my lap, she was way turned on. Then I pulled her out to the dance floor and I am like 3 inches shorter than her in heels. She got real different and turned completely off and would not dance. Sure, this is bullshit and she is not "worth my time", but it does happen.
/r/seduction20/08/12 06:37 PM
42

I'm short. I've been rejected openly by girls for this. Not all attraction is in our control. That idea is delusional. The right mindset is to not care about those girls for whom my height is a problem. They are simply small speed bumps on the road to the women I like who will desire me back. You don't have to be attractive to everyone, you just have to be OK with knowing this and proceed unhindered. Some girls will inevitably be attracted to you.
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:10 AM
3

Otherwise id imagine most of the numbers being flakes. This is definitely the reality. Being fun at a party for a quick convo is not going to bring you a long term set of friends unfortunately.
/r/seduction15/08/12 07:42 PM
3

What happened to the original HB9 you went with?
/r/seduction15/08/12 07:40 PM
1

No limits, you see an HB and can approach, APPROACH.
/r/seduction14/08/12 09:05 PM
1

Unlike the other replies here, I was in your exact situation 5 years ago. Ended up doing nothing with girls in college but a couple dates that went nowhere. Now after college I finally got my first K-close a month ago. My advice is to take a serious look at your faith. Is it what you want and do you own it as your own? If it is, like it is for me, you have a long road ahead. You will need to accept that sexuality is an extremely important aspect of your life that will at times feel unmanageable …
/r/seduction13/08/12 02:41 AM
15

You'd have to shit test her.
/r/seduction11/08/12 04:37 PM
1

What happened to the 8.5?
/r/seduction05/08/12 05:04 PM
2

This is my mode of thinking almost every time I leave almost a venue, day or night. There are a few exceptions. I think the problem we have is the failure to see opportunities. There are girls out there interested in us. Accept that now. You just think interest looks different than it really does. Looking back at my near 1.5 years of "game" I can see that I've given up or not acted on many opportunities. If you don't act, she almost never will. And if she does, she's in charge, and that usually …
/r/seduction04/08/12 02:07 PM
2

This is definitely the case. However, I think PUA gets you a far better chance of leaving a "failed" set with swagger and not negativity, and this is key.
/r/seduction04/08/12 01:59 PM
1

Sit next to her, not across. Touch her when she says something that is either funny or bullshit. Have a plan as to how you are going to cut off the date/transition to elsewhere. Act on that plan when you are done eating, there is no need to be in a restaurant to chat. Read her reaction temperature. Is she into it? No? If she is, you'll be able to tell. If she is just lukewarm or cold for some reason, forget her. Leave her as "girl at the party". But she agreed to breakfast, so she is at least co…
/r/seduction02/08/12 05:32 PM
1

I feel like I learned more than what any other date could have taught me You may feel this way (we all do at times), but you're mistaken. There are a ton of other opportunities for learning out there. I feel like this set her expectations to be higher than what I was in person on this particular date. Fuck her expectations. Show her Today's You. It's the only you that really matters.
/r/seduction02/08/12 05:15 PM
0

Hey Cajun, thanks for the AMA! I never really see a PUA talk about their stats. Out of the daygame sets you approach, what % ends in a succesful Day 2? Bar/Club Game?
/r/seduction30/07/12 02:15 AM
1

There is an excellent prayer (or mantra if you're not religious) that goes: God, grant me the grace to change the things I can, Accept those I can't, And the wisdom to know the difference.
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:38 PM
1

You don't have to feel satisfied with every aspect of yourself. That is delusional. You're not perfect. You do, however, need to be comfortable with the fact that your not perfect and avoid blaming and shaming yourself about your flaws. Embrace them, they make you YOU.
/r/seduction28/07/12 06:18 PM
1

Gangsta ass shit right there. Did you settle down and have a family? Because that seems like it would fit your plans. I respect this a lot, you have come to appreciate the female person, not just the HB. That is rare here on Seddit, who often seems to be shooting at something like mutual masturbation, rather than love.
/r/seduction28/07/12 02:48 AM
2

Not having a sister and having a very strict mother (insisted at one point that dating is for married people) makes things tougher, but not that hard. Luckily, she has begun to encourage me to "practice".
/r/seduction27/07/12 07:35 PM
2

I had a similar experience this past weekend with making out. I had never done it before. Now I've made out with two different chicks. It was DEFINITELY not as crazy of a big deal as I made it out to be. Of course, they were just strangers at clubs.
/r/seduction27/07/12 07:31 PM
1

I'm right there with ya man. Touch is a hump to get over.
/r/seduction27/07/12 07:09 PM
1

It was at the Ottobar in Baltimore,MD. A grungey hipster venue where Hunter Moore, porn mogul, was Guest DJ'ing.
/r/seduction27/07/12 02:09 AM
1

Two instant dates out of three approaches? I'm calling bullshit on this one.
/r/seduction27/07/12 01:42 AM
0

Key here is to show yourself as friendly and heading somewhere. There is no way if your perfect ideal man approached you on the metro that you would be creeped out.
/r/seduction27/07/12 01:41 AM
1

All the attention in the busy subway car is drawn to you Maybe for 5 seconds. People see people they know, meet people, and also ask for assistance/directions on the subway all the time. It's not some earth shattering event that two people talk on the subway. It's not like they know what the pretense of your interaction is. I've only ever gotten smiles or complete indifference (99% of the time) to public approaches in close quarters.
/r/seduction27/07/12 01:38 AM
1

Bus Lording 101
/r/seduction27/07/12 01:27 AM
2

ANNNNNND...No fucks are given.
/r/seduction27/07/12 01:18 AM
0

No one type. Just not fat. Facial normality is also preferred. This type of thing is bad. Method of gait is also important. Bow legged or pigeon-toed is a major turnoff. Too large or small of a forehead, nose, chin, or other primary facial feature with also lose you "points". This girl would be like my ideal girlfriend. Slightly exotic/euro charm and cute as a bell. and her my ideal lay. Because perfect aesthetically.
/r/seduction27/07/12 12:46 AM
-5

See, I think she is overweight.
/r/seduction27/07/12 12:37 AM
1

The other night two separate chicks out of 3 approaches I did specifically said "I'm not here to get hit on tonight". And told me to leave.
/r/seduction26/07/12 04:05 AM
2

But I, as many other I'm sure, do get signals of rejections quite often. I often get: "It was nice meeting you" after day approaches. At night I get :"Well, I'm going back to my friends/the bar/the bathroom now" And this makes "assuming attraction a bit trickier than simpler escalating with every girl you approach" I think better than "Assume Attraction" is "If you don't get a negative sign, it's a positive sign". But girls send out negative signs often. I am a friendly, aggressive approacher an…
/r/seduction26/07/12 02:00 AM
3

You, my friend, are an experienced man. You've got a french chick opener. That's outstanding.
/r/seduction25/07/12 06:02 PM
1

Get a new insurance agent. Escalate. Plow.
/r/seduction25/07/12 05:59 PM
5

signal of opportunity I feel like the sign of a master is in being able to read these signals. I've seen some cool points on Seddit like "If she lets you grind, she's down to k-close". We need more like that. But in the end, its getting out there and testing the waters that will key you in. You gotta go too far at least once to be comfortable going at all.
/r/seduction25/07/12 05:55 PM
15

Laughed out Loud. So perfect.
/r/seduction25/07/12 05:51 PM
4

The reason you don't see single women, is because you are viewing every woman as taken. Women will never put themselves out there as single to the general public, they want to look like they are with people or someone else. What you need to do is start approaching in public, there is no way your general public encounters are all sausage fests, this is statistically impossible if you live in a westernized urban area. Go forth, bro. Make female acquaintances.
/r/seduction25/07/12 12:29 PM
8

Single women need supplies, too.
/r/seduction25/07/12 12:26 PM
1

How would you deal with a situation like this? Just walk away? What would Tyler Durden do?
/r/seduction23/07/12 05:20 PM
-2

But I thought an F-Close with an HB10 was the best possible thing? Thus it is limited.
/r/seduction17/07/12 11:38 PM
1

This will be happening soon! Most of the time they simply seem too mundane and close-free to be worth posting.
/r/seduction17/07/12 10:23 PM
1

Seddit is mainly about seducing women. It's not /r/selfconfidence or /r/bodylanguage
/r/seduction17/07/12 07:25 PM
1

I've read everything on here. I know all the tricks, threading/stacking/asking open ended questions.
/r/seduction17/07/12 04:19 PM
1

I am so close.
/r/seduction17/07/12 04:18 PM
1

I think I converse too much. I've tried many different things, but in general my approaches lead into, "Who are you here with", "What things are you enjoying about your life right now", and other personal info questions like that. Then there is usually a long pause, which I comfortably hold, and either the girl tells me it was nice meeting me/us, or she simply lets us stand there until we leave without continuing the convo. My personal analysis is that I need to be more forward and pull girls to…
/r/seduction17/07/12 02:40 AM
1

These videos always have such badass background scenes. This guy is insane.
/r/seduction17/07/12 02:10 AM
3

In my defense. I have approached probably 150 girls, and gotten one crappy date out of it. I have approached in malls, the beach, clubs, bars, restaurants, parking lots, fairs, colleges, and just about everywhere else. All I have to show for it is one shitty date that was a waste of my time, a few flakey numbers, and a few dances/grinds with random girls. I dress well, I come off forward, I even kino. What gives?
/r/seduction17/07/12 02:06 AM
1

How what % of girls were interested? % Receptive? % Blowouts?
/r/seduction15/07/12 05:46 PM
-5

Downvote because this has been on Seddit multiple times already.
/r/seduction15/07/12 01:52 PM
6

I'm curious about Tyler's "dancing with everybody". Does he just grab every girl and pull them in? Does he pull girls away from dude's their dancing with?
/r/seduction15/07/12 03:44 AM
1

The only part most guys here will hear: There are sometimes when approaching is bothering her, like when she is intensely reading a book. Bother girls, bother the fuck out of them. Let them deal with it. You're fucking worth it.
/r/seduction12/07/12 03:59 PM
1

O great, you don't even notice if we're awkward or are failing.ಠ_ಠ I'm so glad I'm forgettable.
/r/seduction12/07/12 03:56 PM
1

You clearly didn't actually read the FR. HB did not say it, friend did.
/r/seduction12/07/12 03:53 PM
0

Following my mores (Catholic) has led me to never treat women sexually. I still accept my faith, but I really don't want to.
/r/seduction12/07/12 03:52 PM
3

Its a one thing to post this on the internet, and a totally different thing to "be" this girl IRL. Anonymity breeds openness.
/r/seduction10/07/12 03:35 AM
2

Sounds like you got lucky and found a girl that needed some lovin'. But It might just be because your report is very vague.
/r/seduction09/07/12 11:12 PM
1

Why did you not try to pull her away to somewhere else?
/r/seduction09/07/12 07:43 PM
1

sex addiction is a real thing right? Not according to /r/psychology who refute with this source.
/r/seduction09/07/12 07:41 PM
1

Much of the discussion here focuses on eye contact and what to say to a girl. You need to read more. There is a ton of non-verbal stuff on Seddit. Much of it is dance floor game.
/r/seduction07/07/12 03:41 PM
4

Game around them. They will crumble into being your unwavering minions. Trust me, all of my friends made fun of me for reading this shit. Then they saw me actually talking to women while they cowered in the corner sucking the life out of bars and clubs. Still AFC's, but they don't hate anymore.
/r/seduction07/07/12 03:38 PM
3

Two months, lol. I didn't know they let such recent AFC's even post on here.
/r/seduction06/07/12 07:12 PM
3

Offer the hand, dance a bit, then grind if she's into it. I don't buy this crap that girls don't like the penis.
/r/seduction06/07/12 07:09 PM
6

Totally agree, this advice is fairly weak. Seddit's general advice at clubs is: Offer the hand, dance a bit, then grind if she's into it. Don't buy this crap that girls don't like the penis.
/r/seduction06/07/12 07:08 PM
1

Just use situational then. Open girls who are in your class. And girls with whom you have mutual friends. I forget who its by, but some PUA put out a very good college PUA guide that appeared here about 8 months ago.
/r/seduction29/06/12 06:43 PM
1

TIL Women act the same everywhere. I would have written the exact reply, though I've probably only done 100 of these approaches.
/r/seduction29/06/12 06:22 PM
1

We many times just grab empty bottles and walk around with them for this reason.
/r/seduction28/06/12 03:38 PM
0

Yep. We were there to meet girls there. We should not have hidden this. We're men.
/r/seduction28/06/12 12:04 AM
1

30 minutes NW of Baltimore in Westminster. -23
/r/seduction26/06/12 03:06 PM
2

"oh I'm sorry I think you're too old for me, I'm only 18. " RESPONSE: "aww come on. I mean, I can push your stroller around and buy you candy whilst fighting over which song to play from the new Dora Soundtrack. I also strongly advocate breastfeeding grab nipple." PLOW into new topic. I'm 23 and just had a 18yo begging me to take her number on my metro ride downtown. It's all in the manner you present yourself. You essentially didn't present yourself at all. So she reverted to her initial reacti…
/r/seduction26/06/12 01:32 PM
1

What is failure? If it's not getting a close, I fail probably 95% of the time.
/r/seduction22/06/12 08:33 PM
4

She is a hired gun looking for tips, don't assume this was genuine.
/r/seduction22/06/12 07:02 PM
1

But RSD Tim recommends this. I am often disappointed with how often seduction material contradicts itself.
/r/seduction22/06/12 07:00 PM
1

At least your younger women are 18. Being 23 is tough.
/r/seduction19/06/12 07:48 PM
1

I got way worse on Friday night. I approached a 3 set with HB4 birthday girl, HB4 and HB7 friend. Upon approach, HB4's shook with me and gave me names. I discussed their birthday plans and gave the young lady birthday wishes. Always give value. Now I gesture to HB7, " "I didn't get your name" "I thought you'd be gone by now" "Wow, hate strangers much?!" "You ladies have an awesome night!"
/r/seduction19/06/12 07:40 PM
1

Ignore the bitchey one and the guys and proceed to chat up the interested ones until. 1)You Isolate 2)They lose interest as well
/r/seduction19/06/12 07:37 PM
2

I feel ya man. I have read like 10 PUA Books, watched all the RSD and other videos available to the community. I have been actively approaching girls during the day and at clubs for a year and a half now. To date I've gotten probably 12 numbers, 1 date, one girl in my lap, and maybe 6 girls who indicated real interest. I'm in great shape, but I'm short. I often feel like I'm making no progress and don't know how to proceed. Reading all these posts from guys who have been reading for a couple wee…
/r/seduction18/06/12 03:19 AM
2

Just the previews, and they are outstanding, however it seems like he is only closing with really drunk girls.
/r/seduction13/06/12 12:17 PM
0

Agreed. They actually close in those vids. Whereas all the stuff on this Keys episode was FZ material.
/r/seduction12/06/12 04:27 PM
0

He says 95% success rate. That cannot be true. That type of claim is what turns away recovering AFC's.
/r/seduction12/06/12 03:30 PM
2

How did this turn out? Sounds like a flake to me.
/r/seduction11/06/12 08:05 PM
1

Girls will give their number to anybody. It is response that is harder to come by.
/r/seduction05/06/12 03:03 PM
1

Good words. I don't work groups usually because they wear me out. To much entertaining involved.
/r/seduction03/06/12 12:20 PM
1

I did the hand thing last night with a smoking HB8. She did it. Then we split and danced a bit with eye contact, then gradually separated, this seems to happen to me alot. Can you just spin and pull into grind? Is "never lose touch" a good rule?
/r/seduction02/06/12 01:49 PM
1

How long from "dancing" to grind?
/r/seduction31/05/12 11:15 PM
6

Keeping your gun loaded doesn't improve your aim. Awesome quote.
/r/seduction31/05/12 10:53 PM
1

There is definitely a physical change when not fapping.
/r/seduction31/05/12 09:49 PM
0

It does help. It helps get more meaningful and higher quality relationships.
/r/seduction31/05/12 09:23 PM
1

I think the tribe has spoken.
/r/seduction31/05/12 02:03 PM
2

I have this a lot. Girl will look away or start talking to someone else. I think first thing you need to consider is "Why?". Am I engaging her physically and emotionally enough to make me worth her time? If this is so, and it very well may be, I just back out and wish them a good night (if they will even pay attention). Ultimately, those time wasters are a joke in my book. They simply don't register on the same level as the girls who will hold a conversation and actually notice you. I'm still ce…
/r/seduction31/05/12 01:59 PM
9

Seeing seduction as getting to a higher level in GAME and getting serious relations/spouses is pretty inaccurate. I know plenty of schnerdo loser dudes with relationships. The goal in question is quality of life. As you improve, you experience a fluidity to interactions and an assertive dominance over outcome.
/r/seduction31/05/12 01:55 PM
1

Of course it is under your control. The question is how you habitually choose to control yourself.
/r/seduction28/05/12 04:30 AM
1

Get into the friend circles of the girls you do know. New hangouts, new experiences, most likely new girls. Fort Collins has a ton of shops, find one that fits you and hang out there.
/r/seduction27/05/12 05:53 PM
3

Dismissing something as "in your head" is foolish. The mind is an integral player in our health and wellbeing. It can be an extremely tough thing to fix or a powerful healer depending on how you treat it.
/r/seduction27/05/12 03:53 PM
2

Where is this lakehouse?
/r/seduction26/05/12 06:02 PM
4

I've also read other things in Seddit and /r/psychology that say the brooding look is generally more attractive to women than smiling.
/r/seduction26/05/12 06:02 PM
27

Girl didnt offer you a dowry upon coitus? You ain't SWAGGIN'!
/r/seduction26/05/12 06:01 PM
1

I left because I graduated.
/r/seduction22/05/12 04:01 AM
1

sounds like shit. There are few goals that would make me do that to myself.
/r/seduction22/05/12 03:53 AM
1

I just moved back to the "burbs". It sucks. I would strongly recommend the city.
/r/seduction22/05/12 03:39 AM
1

Girls need to hear this advice even more than us guys.
/r/seduction18/05/12 03:32 AM
3

This is very true. But don't think once you get this down that everything will be perfect. You are going to need to learn to deal with rejection.
/r/seduction18/05/12 03:31 AM
3

Link to video?
/r/seduction17/05/12 06:53 PM
-3

Very simple minded response. Every close is situational and can be evaluated only in its context.
/r/seduction17/05/12 06:41 PM
1

I love dancing. I dance on empty dance floors and people stare and point for about 30 seconds. Then they realize how much fun I'm having and invariably get into it. Its comical how predictable the club crowd is. However, I almost never have success with girls at clubs. It never feels natural. I do approach confidently and say "hey you look cool" or "hey, youre really cute, you having a sweet time". Most of the times the girls are not into this. Sometimes, it works. But never have I been able to …
/r/seduction15/05/12 04:09 AM
1

Tyler is psychotic, but he has some awesome points.
/r/seduction08/05/12 07:31 PM
1

Assume attraction needs to be qualified. Assume it, but look for signals of interest and disinterest. I've seen too many guys jump to far ahead because they don't read the girl.
/r/seduction08/05/12 03:22 PM
6

Condition yourself to become comfortable with your panic response. After a few times, you'll be laughing at it. I would go tunnel vision, ears ringing, and faint. Its YOU, not the objects. That might be scary, but coming to grips with it will free you.
/r/seduction06/05/12 06:04 AM
4

As a guy who has had full blown panic attacks (passed out from them twice, which is really rare) they are really not a big deal. Avoidance is the worst possible thing you can do. Let the attack come. After a while you will see that its not as bad as you think now. I had a really bad attack in a classroom, I thought I could never enter a classroom again. After some counseling, and a shit ton of courage (most people don't understand how hard it is) I went back into a classroom with a friend. I was…
/r/seduction06/05/12 04:17 AM
9

Gotta assume attraction and escalate. Unfortunately, you're just going to have to be uncomfortable for a couple seconds. If us guys have to worry about triggering an abuse response everytime we touch you, we'd never touch you.
/r/seduction06/05/12 03:05 AM
0

Has never been a problem. just pay for yourself.
/r/seduction30/04/12 02:27 AM
1

I think the key is not to ignore girls that you aren't interested in. I get in trouble when I'm not using the mantra "always be opening". Approaching only HB's you really want is bound to lead to some oneitis because it fosters the attitude: "man, I've been waiting forever to do an approach, I gotta make this one really good because it will be awhile before the next."
/r/seduction24/04/12 03:29 PM
2

Not having enough money to move away from the job I have. Not getting any "real" job offers. Rent is really cheap where I am.
/r/seduction24/04/12 04:36 AM
1

Part One in definitely me. And I'm still dealing with it. Until I do, pickup always feels like it has an unclear motive to me.
/r/seduction24/04/12 04:34 AM
1

"Cute" has never worked with direct approaches for me. Maybe I will try this next time I see a kindly young lady in my path.
/r/seduction23/04/12 11:43 PM
2

Too high standards like I just graduated from a pretty good university but have found myself waiting tables in bumfuck rural suburbs where most the girls are pregant, addicted, or generally unintelligent to the point that finding a girl worthwhile through sarging seems like playing the lottery. Wal-Mart pickup is depressing.
/r/seduction23/04/12 11:36 PM
3

You obviously are not level 99 stalker status yet.
/r/seduction23/04/12 11:33 PM
2

I don't like "thank you", it makes it sound like the interaction was just for practice or something. Say, "enjoy your night" or something relevant.
/r/seduction23/04/12 11:29 PM
2

Pics or GTFO
/r/seduction23/04/12 11:22 PM
2

There is a hottest woman on the planet. Its unlikely, but maybe he has found her. There should be a subreddit for oneitis's where guys all states how awesome and hot they think their girl is. Everyone will see that there's is not the only best girl.
/r/seduction23/04/12 11:20 PM
2

I hate that you say you went for k-close too early and guys like ty durden say its never too early. Who I am supposed to believe?
/r/seduction23/04/12 11:15 PM
1

her reaction was less than warm. Did not feel like the effort.
/r/seduction11/04/12 12:03 PM
1

I opened a deaf girl today. Had no idea how to proceed so I bailed.
/r/seduction11/04/12 03:25 AM
1

I disagree with previous posters. At first, make a situational commentary on whatever is going on. Oftentimes, this is not enough to talk about. I agree with Wygant on this one: Ask her the boring questions, just be able to shoot the shit and joke about stuff. I don't understand why you wouldnt want to know what the girl does and how she spends her time if you really want to spend time with her.
/r/seduction17/03/12 12:26 PM
2

Been approaching for a year. Probably have not done 1000 though. This actually made me feel a little better about my struggles. Seems like a ton of people here join the community and a couple nights later brag about their exploits.
/r/seduction14/03/12 03:37 PM
82

I put my hand on her shoulder and told her "thank you"- later she told me that that single movement made her wet. Those must be some sweaty ass hands.
/r/seduction13/03/12 11:38 AM
2

I like direct because it has forced me to face women as sexual beings. It has forced me to stand in front of them as a suitor. You can't be friendzoned if you go direct.
/r/seduction10/03/12 07:19 AM
3

It never gets old. Every approach is an entirely new experience.
/r/seduction09/03/12 06:29 PM
1

Hey, don't worry, I'm not a salesman... Proceed.
/r/seduction08/03/12 05:15 AM
5

Hi, you're cute. I had to meet you. I'm Magicroot. Common Response: Aww... Thanks! Houston, you've got the go ahead for takeoff.
/r/seduction08/03/12 05:12 AM
0

Oh, for sure. But this is good precisely because you know a person is experiencing pleasure. You don't get this with a sex toy.
/r/seduction05/03/12 01:36 PM
0

I would have to disagree there. You can't ever access her sex toy (vag) without touching her person. This is especially true for women, who experience sexuality in a far more emotional way than men. There is something about the nastiness and rawness of sex that makes it not uglier, but even more intimate I think. My goal here is not to downplay sex, but to ultimately make it a better experience. I'm not going to advocate waiting for marriage to those sedditors that don't believe in the religious…
/r/seduction05/03/12 01:11 PM
0

Do you really get joy from having someone use you as a sex toy? I got told to shut up and look pretty by my female coworker (she is constantly complimenting my appearance) yesterday when I tried to help her with something unsuccessfully. That felt shitty, because I am more than an object. There is no separating me and my appearance.
/r/seduction05/03/12 01:05 PM
-1

Wait, you said it was meaningless, are you saying that making it meaningless makes you value it more?
/r/seduction05/03/12 01:02 PM
6

This is fucked up and why I still hold onto my religious leanings even after a year of pickup. She's a person, not a sex toy. They are emotional beings with a future and a past. Neglecting this is putting the blinders on to what sex really is: a personal encounter. Remove that element, and you've got mutual masturbation, which feels good, but fades. I want joy and pleasure, not just pleasure.
/r/seduction05/03/12 03:08 AM
3

Meaningless? What's the point then? I want my actions, especially with other persons, to have a metric shite-ton of meaning. I don't see what the point of sex is otherwise.
/r/seduction05/03/12 03:05 AM
1

Whats the risk? Its almost nothing whether you use direct or indirect.
/r/seduction04/03/12 07:49 PM
1

This is totally me. You are the first person on Seddit I've heard that does not preach sexuality right away.
/r/seduction04/03/12 07:49 PM
1

After a year (no K or F closes, but thats being worked on) I agree with all this and boil it down to: Always approach- Even if you forgot everything you read that last day on Seddit, approach anyways. No bullshit excuses, APPROACH. Gauge interest- within the first 5 seconds you can tell if your work will be "easy". Within 30 seconds if its not going well, walk away kindly and gentlemanly. Don't wait till the end to do anything. If you want a number or something else, get it. Most of the boundari…
/r/seduction03/03/12 05:27 PM
1

She does that you go as quickly as humanly possible to the next girl you like and engage. Proceed until desired result. There are way more fish in the sea! Her worldview is drowned out by the droves of attractive single women that actually have a soul.
/r/seduction03/03/12 05:19 PM
3

Neither are diagnosed ones.
/r/seduction03/03/12 05:15 PM
-1

You did this for 2 months and only asked out 10? UP your game.
/r/seduction29/02/12 04:26 PM
2

what this tells me is you are not comfortable physically and sexually escalating with a female. This is dead on. I really am not. I will say whatever the fuck I want, but I almost always don't kino past DiCarlo's first level. It's 22 years of my religion and parental conditioning at work. Assuming I choose to overcome this, how do I? Simply being social will just make you "that really cool dude that no girls will fuck". I see it as "that really cool dude that chooses not to fuck". I am often ver…
/r/seduction27/02/12 07:39 PM
2

I did go. That statement is beautiful, and affirmed by most of the major existentialists, when taken in the right context. Modern psycotherapy also uses our littleness and insignificance to show that nothing is worth beating ourselves up about. Also this Kansas song comes to mind, though the conclusion is far from Christian. The point is not that you or I do not matter, but that we are more than our physical being. Our lives on Earth are fleeting. Eyes on Heaven so to speak. This does not mean t…
/r/seduction23/02/12 08:34 PM
1

Pope Benedict recently stated that religion is useless if it can only get us happiness after we die. The power of the Church is that it can bring happiness right NOW. You probably don't agree with my faith, but we do recognize the Power of NOW as Tolle dubs it.
/r/seduction23/02/12 12:32 PM
1

I dance like this all the time at clubs, whether it be by myself or on a packed dance floor. It never, however, turns into any closes. Girls will always tell me they love my moves, but when I move in they back away.
/r/seduction17/02/12 07:31 AM
3

This is a sweet success story. However, you will have nights where everyone seems to be repulsed by you regardless of what you do. Keep this evening as a reference point when times seems a little less welcoming. And if a set isn't feeling you, PLOW. On to the next one. You've got this!
/r/seduction16/02/12 04:48 PM
1

TIL there is a tipping point where deformity begins to be useful.
/r/seduction15/02/12 03:09 PM
1

From experience, girls are naturally averse to the random-guy-trying-to-dance-with-them. Being naturally social and meeting her, albeit briefly, helps to lift this natural defense mechanism.
/r/seduction14/02/12 03:22 PM
3

Problem with this is that you are automatically deeming her worthy to dance with you without making her qualify herself. Personally, I dont care if she is with the guy if she turns out to be a bizotch.
/r/seduction13/02/12 07:06 PM
5

Before you move in on a girl dancing with a guy, ask her if shes with him. Don't do this directly. Do be social and actually talk to her before trying to dance with her. If she is with the dude, that will become clear oh so quickly through body language and her interest level.
/r/seduction13/02/12 03:42 AM
2

Used in marketing all the time. Same with pickup. 80% of the interest you get will come from 20% of the girls. Save yourself a ton of work and focus on that 20%.
/r/seduction06/02/12 03:04 PM
20

Stop counting IOI's and then doing nothing with them and hoping that she makes the next move. Monster Cheat Code. This is it. This right hear is the only thing holding most people back.
/r/seduction04/02/12 07:06 PM
1

As a guy who is still becoming comfortable doing kino, and k-closes, I really appreciate this post. Seems like every other FR ends up being overly cocky and ultimately self aggrandizing.
/r/seduction04/02/12 05:45 PM
3

Where is general?
/r/seduction02/02/12 03:48 PM
1

This needs to be the top comment. So true. A relationship goes two ways.
/r/seduction02/02/12 02:23 AM
2

Her being "into you" is a complex set of feelings and emotions that develop over the course of a conversation. If a PUA always gave up when the showed any sign IOD there would be countless missed opportunities.
/r/seduction31/01/12 12:26 PM
5

You don't really sound alpha, you sound douchey. I have used this on a ton of sets and most are just blown away that someone is bothering to talk to them.
/r/seduction31/01/12 12:18 PM
0

No guy ever cried over losing a chick as a friend. They have cried over losing a woman's love. Use that to you're advantage. Lose girls as friends if you need to.
/r/seduction31/01/12 02:43 AM
2

What!? How can you deduce that from this simple chart? I actually often do really well in conversation. My problem is usually worrying that I don't have anything "good" to approach with. The point of the chart is to show that any situation has a simple line that can be used if you can't think of anything else. Rule #1 Go in and approach and don't give a fuck.
/r/seduction31/01/12 02:29 AM
1

Almost every MPua out there now has a wife or girlfriend. I take this is good evidence that LTR should be the ultimate goal.
/r/seduction30/01/12 04:09 AM
22

What ever happened to "fake it until you make it"
/r/seduction28/01/12 08:49 PM
8

I don't like witty comebacks. When I use them I just feel like a value taker. I try to leave them better than when I found them. I am talking about regaining interest.
/r/seduction28/01/12 06:32 PM
-4

Its a really hot chick. Why should I start the process over on someone else when I can salvage this one?
/r/seduction28/01/12 05:24 PM
3

Oh, I know, I was just hoping you could help me with this big fingerpaint assignment I have due tomorrow. Run your fingers on the back of her hands
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:30 PM
1

I feel like you were trying to say something there but only like half of it came out.
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:24 PM
1

Thats funny, Red Cross told me I'm a universal donor.
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:23 PM
2

Yea, let me stretch first though. Proceed to lift her up
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:21 PM
1

I know. Proceed to sit down
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:21 PM
1

No, I stole my socks from the wealthy Asian man that runs the local buffet.
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:19 PM
3

No, I don't. It's tough when you live in a palace.
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:16 PM
3

Wow, we only just met and you're already committed to a long distance relationship. you're such a keeper.
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:15 PM
0

TIL women need psychologists
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:02 PM
15

This article assumes a fine line between cold and warm approaches. Often the best approaches happen with girls that are not in your social circle but still are not completely strange either. You find them on your college campus, they are friends of friends, classmates, and people you see often at a place you go frequently. These situations allow for the warm open without the stakes of screwing up the hierarchy of your inner circle of friends.
/r/seduction24/01/12 10:21 PM
1

Went to school for four years in Canada. My head is not "up my ass".
/r/seduction20/01/12 05:57 PM
-1

We also have among the highest productivity rates.
/r/seduction20/01/12 03:38 PM
2

Problems I have with article 9 The difference between a model and an average chick is usually just height. Height is often a good indicator of body type, taller girls are less likely to be chunky girls. It's really just plain unattractive and shallow. This is coming from the guy that says "I'll blow my load whenever I feel like, and where ever I feel like."
/r/seduction20/01/12 02:31 PM
-1

In #7 he uses anecdotal evidence to say that American don't work enough. Americans work more than any other industrialized nation, including Japan. Source
/r/seduction20/01/12 02:26 PM
1

The only way to overcome a phobia is through exposure. Do not suppress the fear of the approach. Notice it, let it be there, and expose yourself to the risk by approaching. Expecting for the difficulty to vanish is often a waste of the best opportunities. When in doubt, just go up and say hello while being scared shitless. That is better than reinforcing your fear through avoidance behavior. You'll see those fears quite rapidly for the next 30-45minutes, to reduce longterm AA you're going to nee…
/r/seduction19/01/12 01:00 PM
9

She's got it way easier in terms of approach. Women are so much more comfortable being approached by other women than men. They don't need bitch shield most of the time on other women. However, I can imagine ASD and kino are where things start to become much more difficult for her.
/r/seduction17/01/12 01:31 PM
-2

By sleeping with a girl, you are not taking something away from her. The fact that it is casual does not mean that you are using her Maybe you are not taking something away, but you certainly are holding back giving her everything you could. Consider steering a little of that desire to fulfill your physical needs with a little charity as well. Try giving your whole self to a woman, not just your body. It's not that you are taking away, it's that you are not giving everything you could. You aren'…
/r/seduction13/01/12 05:02 PM
2

Social circles. Ask her who she hangs with, what they do on weekends, etc. Why would she have anything outside of school to talk about, she is a fulltime student that spends the majority of her time at/around school. She'd be a real space cadet if she did not steer the convo in that direction.
/r/seduction09/01/12 01:43 PM
5

it took awhile to scope out the cuties What? It takes about 10 seconds to quickly scan the room for cute girls. Don't wait. Just do it. Now. And don't go for numbers, go for the actual thing you want. If thats a date, go for a date. If its an addition to your friend circle, go for that. The number is a mechanism by which we achieve these things. Celebrating getting a number is like celebrating the fact you bought a hammer for a sweet pool deck you want to build. Celebrate the deck, bro. It's all…
/r/seduction09/01/12 01:40 PM
1

Don't worry about others thinking you are running pickup or something self-conscious like that. Go sit next to whoever you want to, this usually entails a cute female. Ask her about the course, then her courses in general, then her life at school. Once you have some info about her social life at school make a determination about if you are interested in hanging out with her. Proceed to tell her about stuff you are doing (this requires you have cool stuff that you do) and invite her to it. If she…
/r/seduction09/01/12 01:35 PM
1

give me somewhere to start
/r/seduction02/01/12 04:40 PM
1

Most people enjoy sex. As for frequency of sex, do you really want to not marry a woman because you may have to wait sometimes to have sex. Obviously, she is expected to give herself to you to a reasonable extent in marriage.
/r/seduction01/01/12 07:45 PM
1

What does sexually incompatible mean?
/r/seduction31/12/11 11:13 PM
3

I am Catholic and oppose premarital sex and I will do my best to defend this position. Women, and men for that matter, in a Catholic marriage, have what we call a "marital debt" to each other. This means that withholding sex because you "dont feel like it" is only acceptable for valid reasons. Couples in the Church are expected to have a healthily frequent sex life. Sex is an integral part of a Christian Marriage. Pleasure is a huge part of that. The reason we wait is because we see sex as a com…
/r/seduction31/12/11 10:10 PM
1

What does that mean, sexual compatibility?
/r/seduction31/12/11 09:55 PM
2

My religion (Catholic) claims to be about love and responsibility, yet there are so many of us out there just waiting around for the right girl to fall into our laps. PUA is a great way to start sharing yourself with the women around you who are in real need of love. God make us naked and innocent, ready for some lovin'. Nowadays everybody thinks you gotta be all buddy-buddy with girls. Nope, thats absurd. Women were created to be our sexual partners.
/r/seduction27/12/11 02:24 PM
1

I did not have to. I went above and beyond the call of duty.
/r/seduction23/12/11 06:32 AM
1

What women want is important. We live in a world with others, not just ourselves.
/r/seduction23/12/11 06:20 AM
2

This needs to be the top post. Women should not be relegated to sex things. At least be open to the possibility of a relationship, otherwise, don't waste her time. Be a value giver, not taker.
/r/seduction22/12/11 02:55 PM
1

Try hard to be in a serious relationship
/r/seduction22/12/11 02:53 PM
2

Indirect is for clubs and bars where women are expecting to get hit on. The goal is to be different from every other guy. Direct in the day, less direct at night.
/r/seduction21/12/11 03:26 AM
1

Screw reading, write your own book.
/r/seduction19/12/11 08:58 PM
2

Not targets, people.
/r/seduction19/12/11 08:14 PM
1

DAE feel really awkward when you watch these videos. Also it is not day in this video.
/r/seduction16/12/11 05:07 PM
-1

yea, but then they are not really "just friends" anymore. They are "I could have sex with you but I don't" partners. Alpha male discards females not sexually interested in him as being unqualified for time in his life.
/r/seduction10/12/11 08:08 AM
3

Recognize that discomfort does not equal danger. Accept the discomfort and adopt a "let's see what happens" attitude with touching. Next time you are with female, and hear the negative self-talk, just say "OK, this is really uncomfortable, but I'm going to be OK with that because it is in my (and her) best interest.
/r/seduction10/12/11 08:05 AM
3

Never, ever, take advice on women from women. It never helps.
/r/seduction30/11/11 12:30 AM
2

Hey, it was nice talking to you. I'd love to continue this convo. How can we do this?
/r/seduction25/10/11 12:53 AM
1

added to post
/r/seduction02/10/11 06:54 PM
-1

the HB9
/r/seduction12/09/11 01:09 AM
1

So slick my man. I love the "I only have one more minute to stop flirting", I'm stealing that. How does the story end?
/r/seduction11/09/11 12:37 PM
4

There is no NORMAL.
/r/seduction30/08/11 01:05 PM
1

Stand out. Be interesting. Be the guy that is having fun in the club. The guy who smiles at people in the street. Don't play by social rules.
/r/seduction26/08/11 12:48 AM
1

absolutely. its not hard to tell. the disinterested ones simply act non-reactive whereas the cold ones usually change their tone of voice and give clear physical cues.
/r/seduction24/08/11 01:33 PM
1

Go to her friend saying "Is your friend always this rude to people?"
/r/seduction24/08/11 12:39 AM
2

Average Man- Obie Trice
/r/seduction24/08/11 12:28 AM
5

Speak slowly, make eye contact.
/r/seduction24/08/11 12:13 AM
13

Or you could avoid wasting your time with uninterested women and plow until you find the one who is warm. It doesn't take long.
/r/seduction24/08/11 12:12 AM
2

I like this. Girls will project their feelings towards men/you in the instant you approach. Don't bother with the stinkers.
/r/seduction24/08/11 12:10 AM
1

I get IOI's. They seem legitimately interested.
/r/seduction15/08/11 02:20 AM
1

definitely not asking too quickly. I always hold a good convo before I get a number.
/r/seduction15/08/11 02:18 AM
1

done
/r/seduction15/08/11 02:17 AM
7

Debatable. Whole grains are a key component of our evolution. They fuel exercise. Does not make much sense to advise eating NO whole grains. I lost 55 pounds simply giving up processed foods. My advice: No soda No snacks from a bag or box Mainly only drink water (lots), lay off the caffeine Stick to the outer walls of your grocery store Eat frozen, not canned Eat colorful food Use technology to save time, not energy
/r/seduction27/05/11 11:55 AM
1

Do you really do this? Does it ever work?
/r/seduction24/05/11 08:19 PM
1

OK, got it. That is not a place you want to be in. I want to be in a place of abundance.
/r/seduction23/05/11 09:03 PM
1

I can't get laid in any situation by simply befriending a girl and not going beyond that." Is your aim sex, is that the goal?
/r/seduction23/05/11 09:02 PM
0

This is think is a smart reply. The other ones are quite immature, but this here makes a genuine argument against the FZ.
/r/seduction23/05/11 08:59 PM
1

Darn, Im go there on Thursday's usually. Sorry I missed this post. Will you be going sometime this week?
/r/seduction23/05/11 02:26 PM
3

Yes, you should have engaged the 6 and showed off your social proof. In fact, you should have spent some time diverting your attention from the target. Classic Mystery stuff.
/r/seduction19/05/11 11:02 PM
2

I'll start: Looking at you frequently Proximity Fiddling with hair or jewelry while talking to you
/r/seduction18/05/11 08:35 PM
1

You still have to make approaches. There is still a process behind it. Many people deeply misunderstand us as puritans when it comes to sex. Sex is lauded as the most truly beautiful act by Catholics. Kissing certainly has its place as well. These things are manifestations of the comfort and attraction people have between each other.
/r/seduction14/05/11 06:29 PM
3

I am a sexual person. I just won't act on it until I have made a commitment to a woman.
/r/seduction13/05/11 07:33 PM
2

It is for "religious purposes". We believe as Catholics that sex is a unitive act. In fact, the most unitive act. Thus we find it irresponsible and animalistic as rational creatures to engage in the act without a profound announcement of exclusivity to the community as well as to our Maker. This we call marriage.
/r/seduction13/05/11 07:32 PM
2

Attraction is not a choice. It can be created.
/r/seduction13/05/11 02:15 PM
0

This sounds like bs. How did she get your name? There must have been some convo.
/r/seduction13/05/11 02:13 PM
0

I disagree. Asking permission is for AFC's. Know what you want and go for it. If she does not want it, she can easily communicate that. We are not puppies begging for a treat.
/r/seduction10/05/11 01:21 PM
2

Very poor opener. You need to do some reading. This goes against almost all PUA tactics. You have given her no reason to accept this proposition. You have not elevated beyond creepy guy status. Going out to lunch with you shouldnt be a favor, it should be a privilege that she earns.
/r/seduction04/05/11 12:34 PM
1

It wouldnt turn you off, it would make you wonder why he wasnt interested in you. it would make you do the work. the point is not to directly excite you.
/r/seduction02/05/11 06:17 AM
4

Once you had the camera the game was yours to play. You should have made them look silly, do role playing, whatever. Show them you are the guy that can escalate past stranger-with-camera quickly.
/r/seduction01/05/11 01:13 PM
1

Go wherever you see girls. Go to a place where they are sitting, approach. Do so until reaching desired effects.
/r/seduction01/05/11 12:45 PM
1

Wow, I'm at around 3-5 on most nights. I had better up my game. I usually take like 5 minutes to get over AA then another 5 to get over one-itis. Got to be less selective on my sets.
/r/seduction01/05/11 12:24 PM
1

Good stuff, thanks
/r/seduction30/04/11 02:45 PM
2

I don't like the study-buddy approach. But I think its OK if the girl doesnt seem too brainy/studious i.e. does she actually expect to get serious studying done. If so, ditch the idea. Take her for an impromptu walk around campus, stumble upon a nice spot and talk/kino there. You've got to build comfort straight out the gate. Ideally you would have instant-dated, but you still most likely have a shot. Get into some personal/emotional stuff with her on that bench. Be the man who can listen and no…
/r/seduction29/04/11 09:32 PM
2

What to do if one of her friends says: dude, get out of here, we don't want to talk to you! This has never happened to me before but it's good to know just in case.
/r/seduction29/04/11 09:27 PM
2

Cool, thanks a lot man.
/r/seduction29/04/11 09:25 PM
1

I got stood up a few weeks ago. Turns out the girl's father was in a car accident and she didnt have access to her phone. Sometimes there ARE good excuses.
/r/seduction29/04/11 08:45 PM
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