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weallwantsomethink/r/seduction03/12/18 06:21 AM
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Well it depends on where. But my first line is usually indirect. I try to avoid cliches. When she is clearly suprised or weirded out. I say something like "a bit weird to come talk to you but". Maintain conversation? Uhh that is the hardest part to explain. I just talk to her. There are a lot of different parts in my interaction. I usually let her know through flirting or eye contact or silences that I like her. Some push and pull. Some qualifying and diqualifying What we talk about is not reall…
/r/seduction24/05/19 07:20 AM

Basically desperateness. Non-smooth guys are busy with thoughts like: does she like me?, wouldn't it be great if she likes me? I like her a lot!, I have to do anything for her to like me. It makes you act weird around her. And she feels your desperateness and thus low value. It ruins the whole interaction. No sexual tention. She just knows she can have you.
/r/seduction24/05/19 12:31 AM
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I can but that is a lot of effort. But next time I am in another town I definetly going to shotgun it.
/r/seduction23/05/19 12:13 AM

Ow and how do you handle that?
/r/seduction21/05/19 10:55 AM
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Interesting you say that. Because I am wondering how direct or indirect I should be. Already stating your intention with the opening like a compliment etc. is too direct imo. Because a girl needs to get a feel of you first. In my experience if you are to direct a girl walks away not that she isn't interested she just needs some time to breath. It is starteling for her. A lot of advice is that you shouldn't use indirect because you never show premise or intent. And I understand why. A girl just d…
/r/seduction21/05/19 09:50 AM

My big thing is that I only live in a town of 90 thousand. So I can't shotgun it. If I approach 20 girls a week that will be a thousand a year. Since I hit on a certain age and only females. I will soon get a reputation. So I use the "she is not hot enough" a lot of the time. Since I can only cold approach a few girls a week.
/r/seduction20/05/19 11:08 PM

That women can't give you advice on seduction. "You can't learn from a fish how to catch fish" The problem is that most guys don't ask the right questions to women or don't know how to intepret what women are telling them. Women give clues all the time on what they like in men. A lot of guys just follow a detail a women tells them. "I like guys who hold the door for me". And than start holding doors everywhere for women. In this example women like attentiveness. They like that you look out for t…
/r/seduction16/05/19 10:39 PM

Tall men are leaders because from an early age when they were also taller they were already high in the hierachy. Physical strength is a big factor in dominance when young and in interaction with peers and siblings. Their personalities develop accordingly. So they project a lot of leadership traits naturally troughout their life. It has nothing to do with being physically taller when older.
/r/seduction20/04/19 05:45 PM
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I believe there is some truth to this. It can also be a shittest or banter. But I approached women who definitly were in the category of being bitchy because of insecurity. Think of that loud mouth bitchy fat girl in high school. We all had one. Women who are insecure take it out on you that they are not able to reply.
/r/seduction25/03/19 06:29 PM

Well it was 50 percent bullshit. And it makes you feel unfairness. But it doesn't matter she is wrong about you. What matters is why she thinks these things about you. Why do you come across a certain way? That is what you can learn from it. But you can only ask if you aren't invested.
/r/seduction24/03/19 01:15 AM

I asked once directly. Maybe under the radar a couple of times. That one time made me feel like shit. But she gave useful info in the end.
/r/seduction24/03/19 12:30 AM

Sounds plausible thx bro
/r/seduction24/03/19 12:23 AM
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True. And it maybe be hurtful. I did in the past. And hoped to get a general vibe. I got a specific personality analyses. Which was half true but spinned in a weird way. How or why did she spun in that way? Randomness how she was feeling. But also halo effect. You do one thing wrong and that clouds everything. In the end a date is a lot about how open a girl is to pass quick judgement. And how picky or judgemental a girl is is out of your control. I did my own analyses and I am just a bit rusty …
/r/seduction23/03/19 05:12 PM

Women are not fish. I am just going to ask what she didn't like. Not how to seduce in general or her. You have to interpret what they say I agree ofcourse. Maybe I learn I didn't play out a key principle of seduction. Or am I totally off on this?
/r/seduction23/03/19 03:06 PM

Thx I will try that. Still a bit awkward. But you make some great points. :)
/r/seduction23/03/19 11:02 AM
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True! Bitterness is an attitude that you given up on seeing the beauty and the positive in things. And is often a coping for being a fuck up. Somebody who lost the game and tells you after the game sucks anyways. Insecurity in any form is unattractive and turns a womens hornyswitch off. The bonus of bitterness is also that somebody is a bore to be around and pulls you down. It basically tells you that somebody is durably unattractive. And I agree too. I will lose interest in a bitter girl within…
/r/seduction20/03/19 08:57 AM

It was just an example you are reading my comment wrong. What I mean is that you have to have a positive mindset but also a realistic one. And this "quote" works for people who have a lot going for them. It is a good mindset if you happen to be bruce lee a great fighter. And a good mindset if you are in reach of your goal. But it is a worthless mindset if you think you are great at something despite any reason to think so. People who think they are great at something and are clearly not, are dou…
/r/seduction07/03/19 10:07 AM

Works great if also are very good at something..... Thinking you can beat 20 black belt enemies when having no experience is not a great mindset but just insane (edit:bruce lee could, just an example) Bruce Lee is the biggest example of half baked pseudo philosophical quotes imo.
/r/seduction07/03/19 09:51 AM
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Some women can give you great insight on what they like in men. But most of the time it goes like: I don't know I just liked how he acted. And you will get a lot of random things not principles. "I like that you dropped your coffee". (She liked it because how you handled it. Very calm and confident also carying if she got wet but she doesn't say that) It showed her a authentic reaction. That you are not a neurotic but confident guy and a guy that looks out for her. But she just tells you how she…
/r/seduction04/03/19 10:07 PM
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Uhhh ok. I am not sure what you are responding too. You seem very emotional. But "keeping pressure" has nothing to do with what you commented on. It is not playing it safe. Releasing tension is playing it safe. I agree with the "mr cool act" ofcourse. But I never said you needed to be that guy. That is a common mistake among average guys. But I am not sure what you are trying to do here. Misreading what I say or strawmanning me to push your views and calling me a bitch in the process.
/r/seduction28/02/19 01:26 PM
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I read the whole thing. Imo it is better to stress that you keep silences than trying to fill them. It should be "keep silences" and than some footnotes that you shouldn't akwardly keep silences all the time. But it depends on where you are at. Nervous talkative guy: leave silences. Unresponsive not talkative guy: try to move on to other topics. I think most guys working on seduction are nervous and try hards. Leaving silences isn't a bad thing. You can even don't speak at all and talk with your…
/r/seduction28/02/19 11:57 AM
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I think point 3 is wrong or incomplete. That makes me distrustful of the rest. A lot of it doesn't hit home for me. Leaving silences is a great way to build tension. You "stay in pressure". It shows confidence and she will feel that. It is one of the few ways you have to make her non verbally feel tension. A lot of guys feel akward too stay in pressure. With silences or looks. Just keep calm and be ok with being silent. Often dead spots in a conversations are a rarity. But it depends if you are …
/r/seduction28/02/19 11:34 AM
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You mean seinfeld? I always think that being too funny you scare a lot of women if if they for some random reason don't fund your joke funny. But if they do find it funny they like your more ofcourse. What are your thoughts in that?
/r/seduction28/02/19 11:07 AM
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You ask in a tactful way what their relationship is. Sometimes they don't have a bf they just say that as a automatic response. Sometimes it is just a guy they are seeing. In that case you just say: if it doesn't work out here is my info. Some women will get back to you when things don't work out. If she is ok with cheating she won't tell you that she has a bf. Maybe until much later. If she is and she is monogamous their relationship is already on the rocks and she is looking for a way out. Or …
/r/seduction23/02/19 05:45 PM

Alright so what are you saying with this line? Because translating it would be words to that effect. "That doesn't work for me" means in my language "I am not putting up with this".
/r/seduction19/02/19 04:57 AM

On the second one. What are you actually saying? I am asking because the line doesn't translate well in my language. Is any line fine as long as you are saying "I am not putting up with this". If it does it seems a bit needy.
/r/seduction19/02/19 04:38 AM
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Sounds very passive to me. Attracting people by being attractive means you should take the first step at least. So approach approach approach so people can see your attractiveness.
/r/seduction19/02/19 04:09 AM
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Well thx. A sincere compliment btw is a a good thing in seduction. But only coupled with non needy behavior. I am just a guy who reads up on these things :)
/r/seduction13/02/19 10:45 AM

I fully get that. If you get approached badly it can almost be harrasement. On the seduction sub authentic respectful good approaching is what we aim for. But I know that there are a lot of pushy pickup line nice guy creeps out there. They are ruining the vibe for everybody :).
/r/seduction12/02/19 08:04 PM

I understand that. Although I don't see difference between general "I don't like to be approached" and what you experience. If guys don't approach people only would get together through social circle or datingapps. In every situation you have women who don't like to be approached. Enough women who dislike being approached in a bar. Also I think it is an overreaction rescheduling. If you get hit on by pushy guys 4 times everytime you work out I get that. But one guy once in awhile who shows some …
/r/seduction12/02/19 07:40 PM
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Only a table. Not really
/r/seduction12/02/19 05:47 PM

Why does it make you uncomfertable? Isn't it the way you are (and who) approached instead of being approached?
/r/seduction12/02/19 05:40 PM
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How do you start talking? Everybody is zonening out on whatever they are doing where I go.
/r/seduction12/02/19 10:21 AM
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Hmmm but still your gf is matching women on tinder. And the women suck on there.
/r/seduction12/02/19 07:41 AM

Job and money are not really attractive qualities. Social status somewhat but nog a big factor. You don't need to be the life of the party. You should be good at one on one. Only thing social status and proof does is make you interesting. "Who is this guy people like?" But than still you need the real seduction to happen. With socially intelligent I meant: doing the right thing at the right time in an interaction to get women to like you. But that is impared with autism so like I said that is a …
/r/seduction12/02/19 07:37 AM

Looking at your profile I am not sure what is up with you. Are you looking to sell stuff?
/r/seduction11/02/19 11:47 PM

Casual and relationship begin the same way. It is the same "game". Women just need to find you attractive. So you have some good things and some bad things about you. Only thing that is a problem is the autism. I think if you have autism first it is important to work on social skills if you have trouble. Trying to get girls when being socially akward and autistic is hell. It will take hunderds of approaches for you to get anywhere. Casual or relationship doesn't really matter. You need social in…
/r/seduction11/02/19 11:03 AM
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That actually isn't a bad idea.
/r/seduction10/02/19 12:59 PM
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Lol. Sure frame like you are the catch ofcourse. It is part of abundance mentality too. Not being desperate or outcome independent. I go on dates checking if I like someone. Makes you act natural unforced and relaxed. Works wonders
/r/seduction10/02/19 12:53 PM

Have to agree with clouds. Memes have a time and place for sure. But it really depends on the (sub)culture you are in. A lot of 30+ women don't know what a meme is. You send it and it won't make sense to them. 25+ maybe half. Some guys are big advocates. Like a certain dating coach of youtube.... In my culture I never gotten a meme ever. Not friends nor lovers. So it would be pretty weird starting doing that.
/r/seduction10/02/19 12:50 PM

Sorry but tinder sucks imo. Even with a great profile I match with women below my real life "matches".
/r/seduction10/02/19 07:54 AM
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I am intrigued though.
/r/seduction10/02/19 07:52 AM
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A lot of women are bi. A lot of women like to have a fwb. So basically normal seduction untill you hit this combo. It will take about 5 times.
/r/seduction10/02/19 07:50 AM
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Hmm yeah that is a good point
/r/seduction10/02/19 07:47 AM

A lot of it is mindset. The whole low status things depends on where you live and what girls you want to hit on. But it is the same with everything. So your resume sucks alright. Another guy is bald and can find enough evidence girls don't like that. Another guy height, looks, muscles, penis size etc. You can always focus on what you don't have and find evidence for it you are not what women want. Well.... women aren't perfect. Not even close. They aren't special and worthy of perfect guys. Most…
/r/seduction10/02/19 07:40 AM
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My fwb never seduced a girl. So that way I thought well it is on me than. But this worked for you? Seducing like a team?
/r/seduction10/02/19 01:57 AM
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Seen?
/r/seduction09/02/19 11:25 PM
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Sorry I don't unserstand. I should seduce her at the bar?
/r/seduction09/02/19 09:13 PM

Offer a drink and than take them to your bedroom..... what? Sounds more of a swingers party than actual life.
/r/seduction09/02/19 09:12 PM
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Alright this is a bit pessimistic. Ofcourse I am going to try and test the waters. Not jumping the gun. The statistics yeah that is a thing. But the treshold is a lot lower for my FWB if she is already horny. And than she can always decline etc. But if I may ask. How many treesomes have you had? Did you do something similar to conclude on this advice?
/r/seduction09/02/19 09:11 PM

Having escaped FA I think you make good points. But on the confidence. You don't need to specificallys stop saying these things. Just get rid of the nice guy stuff. Have a straight back keep a little more eye contact. Be calm. Don't show neuroticism. And don't think a girl is special and pedestal her. Don't frame yourself that she is special and you will be lucky to have her. She wants to feel it is the other way around. All this is emotion subconsiously. She will connect non verbally. Because s…
/r/seduction08/02/19 06:55 AM
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Still happens even when having two girlfriends.....
/r/seduction07/02/19 08:10 AM

Well his jokes are a stretch for one. The axe murderer thing is corny. Beginners a lot of the time think they need to me smart in their convos. Obvious one is asking for a meet up instead of stating what he would like. It all reads as being the unauthentic gamy closed guy. Sure you don't need a lot of time and a deep connection. But I read zero rapport in this. Most girls even of tinder will want you to share a little more than this.
/r/seduction06/02/19 06:27 AM
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It depends where you set the flagpole. This is the seduction sub. So already not a beginners sub. Beginner here is an average guy imo. He has sex just not consistently. So he mostly doesn't fuck up things with girls who are DTF or are in to him. Intermediate is when you create oppurtunity out of nothing. So cold approaching in the street. Or advanced night game. Trying threesomes etc. You never screw up if a girl is DTF. But you are still not perfect in getting a decent lay whenever you want. An…
/r/seduction05/02/19 07:11 PM

Agreed. He is beyond the absolute beginner level sure. But this girl just happens to be DTF. OP has got some concepts down. But makes some obvious mistakes in his convo. Also it all seems extremely gamy to me. I haven't seen any evidence of building an authentic connection. Being witty and smart all the the time gets old pretty quick. And you take a risk. If I was breaking down a conversation like that I wouldn't even enjoyed fucking her.
/r/seduction05/02/19 05:10 PM

A lot of this post is like: who gives a fuck? Also intermediate advanced? Even intermediate is a stretch imo.
/r/seduction05/02/19 04:33 PM
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Agreed. OP has to learn to be a gentleman
/r/seduction05/02/19 04:30 PM

He used a wrong term. This isn't passive aggression just a girl who isn't sold on OP. Passive aggression would be if she would have negative (absent) responses to him to screw with him.
/r/seduction02/02/19 04:14 PM
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Not complicated. When you feel you are chasing or getting mixed signals. The girl just isn't sold on you. You are still an option most of the time. They haven't made up their mind. If you had 2 dates and this happens your game usually sucks. In this post the girl OP was chasing lost that option and felt regret.
/r/seduction02/02/19 04:09 PM

Can you elaborate?
/r/seduction23/01/19 01:25 PM
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No, you can get a girlfriend out of a threesome or one night stand. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/seduction21/01/19 06:27 PM

Lol yeah I understand that. I think holding hands is bf gf stuff. Not first date stuff.
/r/seduction21/01/19 06:23 PM

Hold hands?
/r/seduction21/01/19 04:15 PM
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Thank you :)
/r/seduction21/01/19 12:52 PM

It isn't in it self manipulative. How you are presenting this "advice" and your intentions are. And it is about what you can build together not the venue. Changing where you are too much makes you half of the time walking next to each other. And being underway is boring and cumbersome especially when it is cold.
/r/seduction21/01/19 06:22 AM

Worst date advice ever dude XD. This is a very old and manipulative way to make girls think they had an exciting date and a lot happened. Women aren't this stupid. Don't fall for it OP. Don't go for "tricks". Have a meaningful experience don't try to "trick" women.
/r/seduction21/01/19 06:13 AM

For inexperienced guys there are some things they tend to get wrong: - You have to lead. You lead as if you are dancing. You must lead her with confidence and skill. This comes with practice. In a sense it is already foreplay because you show how sex with you will be. So pick the place show her the way. Ask her out etc. - You have to escalate. At some point you must pull the trigger. And a lot sooner than you think. Women go on dates to have sex basically. They don't admit it and sometimes don't…
/r/seduction21/01/19 05:58 AM
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Yes. It is like a horoscope. Personally although bruce lee was an interesting person his aphorisms were cheap pseudo wisdoms. If you think about them they are often more something a gooroo would say than a wise intellectual. Meaning: sounds great on the service but has no substance. And if it does the substance is cliche or one level deep. Saying common sense things like you are buddha.
/r/seduction18/01/19 08:14 AM
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Dumbass
/r/seduction17/01/19 11:46 AM
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Uhmmmm..... Well like always we weren't there. But the only 2 possibilities I see is was she was DTF right there or she has psychopathic tendencies and was fucking with you. It seems to me an obvious case of a girl who likes you a lot and can't help herself to touch you. Yes this happens.
/r/seduction17/01/19 11:46 AM
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You can yes. Depends highly on the local culture. I don't call it anything if I don't have to. Just show my interest and that I like to gtab a drink.
/r/seduction16/01/19 03:35 PM

You don't want to put pressure on things calling it a date. This advice actually means that you should be direct in that you are interested. Because otherwise you meet up and some girls don't even know that it is a date or you are meeting up as friends.
/r/seduction16/01/19 01:45 PM
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I think losing some girls because they want to text is a good trade of since it otherwise takes way too much effort. If you can try with 3 girls with 40 messages a piece. Or 1 girl trying to build a connection online for weeks. In my experience you don't have a higher chance with the one you have texted a lot. Also it is demoralizing. Because you are investing a lot in trying to be atttactive online and they can as easily flake or don't want to set up a date.
/r/seduction16/01/19 01:43 PM
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Agreed but texting to win her over will never work. Just a bit of rapport is enough.
/r/seduction16/01/19 01:36 PM
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I never had a problem with this advice. I used to talk a lot online. Biggest mistake I ever made. It took me way too much effort and made me invested in girls that weren't worth it. I am dating 18 to 32. But also 18 year old girls give their number just as easily as their FB or insta. I think something else is going on: you are primarily hitting on 16 to 20 year olds. FB or insta is easier to give. But than it means a lot less. Phone number is more personal. this group can be shy and unexperienc…
/r/seduction16/01/19 01:20 PM
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Al lot of this has a r/wowthanksIamcured vibe to it.
/r/seduction15/01/19 05:55 PM

How is this specific to seduction? This could apply to anybody who wants to make behavioral and/or life changes.
/r/seduction15/01/19 05:53 PM
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It depends on what you have to offer. Occasional action can be harder than a relationship. Although it is lower in commitment. Women only want a casual relationship with guys they find highly sexually attractive. For a long term relationship they look beyond sex.
/r/seduction13/01/19 05:54 AM
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But that is online. Online women have not a lot to go on. So they take superficial markers to make desicions on. They think a guy that makes money associates with attractive traits. And sure status is more important in USA. Also you have these believes but you don't seem to have a lot of experience with women. Even in europe online dating sucks. The women are skewed to the less desirable. Because the attractive ones don't stay long on there and they get approached in real life. And they only gp …
/r/seduction12/01/19 12:22 PM
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Ow I know enough people single "high" in status. Their personalities are just unattractive simple as that. Certainly you cannot be 30+, no college education, no career, and expect to find any chicks interested. For seduction in european countries you easily can. Status isn't a big thing here. If you go on a night out and are fun and you have good game. Women don't care. If you are a good lover you can even get a relationship. But it really depends on why you don't have your life together. A lot …
/r/seduction11/01/19 11:34 AM
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Sounds exactly like a guy I know. He asked me for advice because I am good with women and people he said. Him being my wingman for a night made it obvious as day. I had to be real with him. You are just a negative person. It is simple, women want to have fun on a night out. They don't want to hang with a guy who isn't fun. There is no technique you can learn or a special behavior. Your whole vibe is "I don't want to be here I am not interested". And he had that vibe just because of low self este…
/r/seduction10/01/19 02:50 PM
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I don't agree that this gets you girls no. It is one of the most common mistakes I see guys make. Thinking they need to be succesful to get girls. And subsequently put a lot of effort in trying to be succesful. Status is a factor that depends on your culture if women are interested in it or not. But even then you shouldn't try to get girls by being succesful. The type you do attract is not the type you want. You have to work on getting attractive. Status is not a big part of that. And it is much…
/r/seduction10/01/19 02:03 PM

I disagree with everything you said.
/r/seduction10/01/19 01:01 AM
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I am just saying it is good to overthink things in the sense to get a bit nerdy and analytical about seduction. Most people say don't and let life unfold on serendipity (or regular "thinking"). You can do that but you will get the same results as always or most people. And we come to the seduction sub to better ourselves. What the formal definition is of "overthinking" isn't very interesting imo.
/r/seduction09/01/19 10:33 AM
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Couldn't have said it better.
/r/seduction09/01/19 07:17 AM

To get good at something you are not good (enough) at you need some overthinking imo. I know guys who are perfectly good guys but who just need selfanalyzing to improve their chances with women. Also what some of us try to do isn't easy. Cold approach a girl on the street getting her phone number and having casual sex with her. You need a part trail and error experience. And a part analyzing. Because otherwise you just make the same mistakes over and over and trying to reinvent the wheel. But su…
/r/seduction09/01/19 07:15 AM
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Well you make an interesting case. Never been or will be the nice self esteem recharge guy. I only do this pondering over a woman if I already had great sex with her.
/r/seduction06/01/19 01:38 AM
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Engaging is callback stuff. So something you did or she liked. Let her be reminded of that. Just not something boring and generic. Can be a joke. Or sharing something about yourself.
/r/seduction06/01/19 01:33 AM

That makes sense. Thx On the cynicism. That women use me for sex or money while they are waiting on other men isn't something I actually have encountered. But I think it really depends on the type of women you have sex with. Ofcourse a selfesteem boost is something we all get from sex. I keep running into this sentiment. But I guess the type of women I am and are attracted to me just don't do this. Weighing her options sure. But still if she doesn't do anything that option will fade. And also wh…
/r/seduction05/01/19 08:24 PM

I do that. After three weeks I just text something engaging. Sometimes get a date. Sometimes yes but busy this week etc. But back on topic. Is there any situation it is good to just ask straight up if she is interested want to really meet up or not?
/r/seduction05/01/19 06:15 PM

No I meant I "half of the time I get another date" with playing it like I explained in the post. What bothers me is that it is stressful and sometimes it goes nowhere. And I rather have a honest conversation about it. But what is holding me back is like I said. I think I ruin my chances by doing so.
/r/seduction05/01/19 05:49 PM

And if she is interested? That is the thing. Half of the time I get another date.
/r/seduction05/01/19 05:30 PM

Can you elaborate? Why never?
/r/seduction05/01/19 05:15 PM

Well ofcourse I already asked for another date at this point. And I got a yes. Just somehow doesn't result in a plan.
/r/seduction05/01/19 05:14 PM
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Your attachment is fake. ​ You are attached to the memories of her. Not to her. ​ Because she doesn't want you anymore. The girl you are attached to doesn't exist. Only in your fantasy. ​ I don't know how it went down. But I think you left that relationship with some hope. But you need a good hard clear "no way in hell we are going to get back together because I don't love you". ​ This will make you understand that the girl you loved doesn't exits anymore. Because you were in love with a girl th…
/r/seduction04/01/19 11:25 PM

When I am enjoying myself I still sometimes forget the other points.
/r/seduction04/01/19 10:35 AM
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I am not sure this is great advice. It resembles a lot like the advice: "approach girls who seem approachable". This advice is bad because that is what every guy does. And you can't really tell what is going on with a girl. If girls are out they want something out of going out. The "low energy" you describe sounds like they don't really want to be there. I am not sure that are many girls. Avoiding "low energy" just seems to me another excuse not to approach. Like always: you simply don't know ho…
/r/seduction03/01/19 06:22 AM
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Going up to her in real life already is a huge upside. Online options in the mind of a women still feel far away.
/r/seduction27/12/18 11:43 AM
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No problem! :)
/r/seduction23/12/18 02:00 PM
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Well just go for it. ​ It is the same as a lot of questions on dating in several subs. You can have an educated guess on how somebody will react. But you never know how somebody will react. ​ My educated guess: A shy guy will have very little options. Since most women don't like shy guys. So he will be desperate and will put up with a lot. ​ Also shy guys are most of the time low in confidence. One of the main requirements imo for an open relationship/FWB. And being desperate having little optio…
/r/seduction23/12/18 11:56 AM
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They wants us to be open as long as it fits their idea of an attractive men. So yeah have problems be human! But serious anxieties or insecurities and you aren't fit to be her protecter anymore and you can fuck off.
/r/MGTOW17/12/18 07:14 AM
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I upvoted you because that is funny as shit.
/r/seduction15/12/18 05:33 PM
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Alright that sounds ok nothing fancy :)
/r/seduction14/12/18 05:12 PM
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That is the dumbest advice I ever heard on seduction. Social game has big flaws. It works good if you are in uni and party a lot. If you have a normal social circle and you are not 20 anymore your social circle is too limited. And you will be fucking amongst friends. That creates drama. And it is very limiting. If you know 10 people and they know 10. You "know" 100. 50 will be female maybe 15 will be single. Maybe 5 you will be interested in. Social game is a good add on to other "game". But if …
/r/seduction14/12/18 03:09 PM

"Hi, I would like to get to know you" Hmmm... isn't that putting pressure on things? But tell me what first sentence have you used?
/r/seduction14/12/18 01:33 PM

I agree. But still. What?
/r/seduction14/12/18 01:23 PM

I am confused on what you think a white knight is.
/r/seduction05/12/18 07:15 AM

And what are your thoughts on direct openers in nightgame?
/r/seduction02/12/18 05:27 PM

Ofcourse. I do that. Still, how do I ask again without looking desperate?
/r/seduction12/11/18 11:59 PM
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THx :)
/r/seduction04/11/18 08:01 PM

What is zero-stating?
/r/seduction29/10/18 11:47 AM
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Yes! I want to add to the more obvious things other commenters already said. When I am not thinking about seduction, two hours later I find myself in bed with someone. When I am thinking about seduction a lot less. But that isn't bad. What you should realize that the thing you are practicing thinking about seduction will actually be internalized and come of as natural later on. When I am not planning to seduce these same things come to surface. I am in line at the grocery and I just chat about s…
/r/seduction29/10/18 11:41 AM

Yeah you are right. Thx man I needed that as a reminder. She is just a 9/10 in a long time and I am needy. Just treat her as a guy right?
/r/seduction28/10/18 10:15 AM
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Well not necessarily. She can me a slow fader. That is what I think of if somebody hase two word responses after a date Although the date itself was.very good.
/r/seduction28/10/18 10:12 AM
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True. Just stick to core attractiveness.
/r/seduction28/10/18 10:06 AM

Hmmm yeah makes sense. I got some oneitis here. When I don't have that I feel less bothered by it. But with other women I can gaze by the interaction where they stand. I can't with her. It feels weird. Maybe I should just ignore the texting and focus on the date we had. And maybe bring this up the next she says she likes me etc. But still I feel like a doormat not calling her out on this bratty unsensitive behavior. Probably unintentional.
/r/seduction28/10/18 10:06 AM

I agree with the needyness. And her being on the fence. So maybe some reassurance that I like her and I want to see where this goes? We said we liked each other and other things. She knows I am banging other women and have a girlfriend. Although I am polyamorous. But she could be confused about the situation. She is 18 never had a casual relationship. I was her first ONS. Maybe call her for a change? Edit: also I must add. I never had a girl or women text with me this strangly. Most have a consi…
/r/seduction28/10/18 09:45 AM
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If you're really against it still, then approach less attractive women. The less attractive the girl the more she will like you. That is actually a good tip thx. I have been doing that. And women who probably are into me. I am different so mainstream girla won't go for me.
/r/seduction26/10/18 01:07 PM
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I get some. But only if I feel very confident that day.
/r/seduction26/10/18 10:22 AM
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Yes thank you! I needed to be reminded of that. When I cold approached well. A lot of women light up like a pinball machine. Although they they had bf's.
/r/seduction26/10/18 10:22 AM
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True.
/r/seduction26/10/18 10:20 AM

Well ok that makes sense. If you have high value you will do most women an favor. Still women won't value you like yoi value yourself. Thats is a blessong as much as a curse. We have radical different value for different people.
/r/seduction26/10/18 10:19 AM

Well I am not going to tell you that anybody can compensate for lacking in attractive qualities and pick up high value women. The seduction sub works best for guys who are average to high, smart social and looks. A lot of guys just don't know how to seduce but have average to good lives overall. But anybody can benefit from seduction. Remember women have the same stats so if you stay in your leageau you can always get somebody. Having met and dealt with all kinds of guys on the autism spectrum I…
/r/seduction26/10/18 05:21 AM

I do that. Problem is that you have to walk aroind 2 hours and a summers day to get such a IOI. Not efficient.
/r/seduction26/10/18 04:48 AM

Social circle game. Not really for me. Since my social circle is a bit limited. I want to upgrade though.
/r/seduction26/10/18 04:46 AM

It really depends. The "high value" guys aren't in high supply on tinder at all. Just swipe with a girl friend of yours. The quality is low. The just okay women also can't nail this guy down. And a lot on tinder doesn't go anywhere. A 7 or up can get a lot of dates. But dates with guys she want? And a lot of those dates won't be fun. Also remember most men don't make a study of seduction. 90 percent will be mediocre bad or ok. She would want to try something different than tinder at a lot of poi…
/r/seduction26/10/18 04:43 AM
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Why not?
/r/seduction26/10/18 03:53 AM

Only guys they are attracted to right?
/r/seduction26/10/18 03:50 AM
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That is actually not bad advice How do I do that?
/r/seduction25/10/18 09:51 PM

What does anything of this have to do with cold approaching? I say one in ten women. Because 6 of them will have a bf. And than half of that just don't want to be approached. And than maybe 1 of the remaining two likes me. You can't improve yourself to the point that half of women will be interested that you cold approach.
/r/seduction25/10/18 09:50 PM
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Well those articles I don't care about. More half of women telling me: there was this weirdo who came up to me at the busstop I ignored him.
/r/seduction25/10/18 09:47 PM

Yes but not me or in that moment right?
/r/seduction25/10/18 09:46 PM

Alright dude some tough love. You are overanalyzing and very anxious. You should realize that you will probably fail when asking her out. Why? Because you are untrained. You will be anxious. This in turn will lead to her not being attracted to you. You saying and doing the wrong things. And guess what good chance she is not interested either way. And it is GOOD that you will fail. It is your first step in to learning how to ask someone out. See seducing women as a process not as a way to get "th…
/r/seduction25/10/18 03:31 PM

What have you learned the most from it?
/r/seduction25/10/18 03:24 PM

that way you'll have something to do while waiting for her to remember you exist. Lmfao Are you talking from experience? It feels like that sometimes. Her texting is often random and short. And she often texts mutiple short messages in a row. Drops of the planet without regret. I am often feeling like I should just call her out on being rude but I am afraid that I look needy. Like her not responding to texts.
/r/seduction25/10/18 03:15 PM
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This anxiety thing also can come up before second dates. Some women seem to know me after a 2 and an half hour coffee date. It always goes the same way to. These women are closed and don't show who they really are at the first date. Sure they talk. But don't connect emotionally or authentically. They go on the date to get information without giving something themselves. They don't go on it to enjoy themselves. It sucks because it feels like a job interview. But I always hope they losen up on a s…
/r/seduction22/10/18 07:20 AM
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True. Some women think they can somehow screen out the rapists etc. But meeting up for a drink in a public space it is nonsense to do so. You will soon know everything you could ever get to know beforehand texting on the date itself.
/r/seduction21/10/18 09:31 PM

I have seen this in different forms. These women are scared and low on social intelligence. She finds it scary to meet up with a guy from a dating app. About 20 percent of women I meet up with are very nervous. And want to chat before hand. They cancel last minute simply because they got scared. Why they got scared is mostly because of their insecurities. They give seemingly weird excuses. But to them it seems logical. Some example excuses of scared women cancelling last minute: she was somehow …
/r/seduction21/10/18 06:12 PM
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You mean going for girls you haven't met on instagram? That isn't a good approach. Most women won't be interested. It looks desperate/needy contacting girls you don't know on instagram.
/r/seduction19/10/18 04:37 PM
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I am a beginner too. I barely approached 50 times. 20 numbers 15 dates 10 lays (roughly). I have some things going for me other things not. There are so many parts to seduction that it is hard to pin point succes or fail. Although you can quickly weed out big things. In seduction overal I became aware of big turn offs I did in the past. One was the need to talk. It is so powerfull to just look a girl in the eyes with a secret and letting the silence be. You show confidence and intent. I always b…
/r/seduction16/10/18 09:05 AM

Interesting. I understand you need the routine. And you have to warm up. I warm up differently. Being inviting maybe chatting up someone. I keep that going all the time. But even that I am getting better at psyching myself in to approach mode. It happened to me also that I get nerves wait to long etc. Sure that would go down after doing it more. But I still don't need dozens of approaches for that. I learned to cope with some pretty heavy burns and rejections. Just by analysing. Also I am not ne…
/r/seduction16/10/18 08:03 AM

I agree. Cold approach for me is building confidence in any situation talking to women. And I never thought that something would come from it. But because I don't live in a big city I can't do the trial and error thing. I really commit try and (over) analyse after. I grew the most in the first 10 approaches this way. I already got numbers within a few approaches. Sure you still need a lot of practice even with this approach to get good at it. But I tend to believe that this way you only need a t…
/r/seduction16/10/18 07:45 AM
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I think OP is after learning to seduce and be attractive. Learning about daygame did that for me like too. All the techniques are basically just about being attractive in a short period of time. Every woman you will meet anywhere has a lot in common with a daygame approach.
/r/seduction16/10/18 12:02 AM

Thx for sharing. It sounds like you shotgunned it. I don't live in a big town so I tend to approach a few girls a week. Only getting 1 in 4 numbers is the same as me. Simply if they are single or not. But them not answering texts or turning in to dates I was a little shocked. It almost looks like it is not worth the effort woth those stats.
/r/seduction15/10/18 11:51 PM

Alright that aren't signs anymore. That is almost as good as a women saying: I want to fuck you. But still. You can't mess up good game. Like anything you just have postives vs negatives with different weights. If she like 9 things about you and you have 1 bad thing. She doesn't care. You being pushy..... I don't know. Could be. She just wasn't feeling it.
/r/seduction07/10/18 09:07 AM

She probably have that rule for guys she isn't sure about. Guys she is sure about can fuck her on the spot.
/r/seduction07/10/18 12:44 AM

Yeah..... Well just don't kiss someone on the end of a date. I found out this is the best thing you can do. If she rejects at any other time of a date no problem you can try later on. If she rejects at the end of the date than you leave on a weird vibe. So the next time you meet you will have to go from that point. Not a great start.
/r/seduction07/10/18 12:42 AM
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Ofcourse you just want to give your number. I would just say that you like her but you are there with someone and you don't want to make it akward with her. Shows you are empathic and she will feel validated. Than if you can just make it your "secret" and give her your number.
/r/seduction05/10/18 04:50 AM
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I am glad you took your first step.
/r/seduction04/10/18 09:13 AM
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Wow that is direct as fuck. Being direct and confident is an attractive quality. Although you soon get labeled the "only wants sex guy". At least where I live this is not a good thing. Women are afraid that they get treated badly. Also they don't want to admit to themselves they would hook up easily. They want to hook up ofcourse. But you do it in a way so that they feel comfertable with how it happens. And being so straight forward about wanting sex women often conclude you lack empathy because…
/r/seduction03/10/18 08:43 AM
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Well the thing is. The ways in how to get a woman in to bed on the same day or in a LTR are basically the same. You have to behave attractive. Also having sex within a few dates is normal also for the beginning of something long term. Don't worry about women not wanting anything serious if you have sex too soon. They don't care. What they care is about how your connection is. What you should worry about is losing momentum by delaying kissing or having sex. Women want to fuck as much as guys. You…
/r/seduction03/10/18 07:16 AM

I recommend "abundance mentality". You get attached because you feel you have no options. I was the same way. And now having multiple relationships. My confidence shines trough. Paradoxically this gets you more women. In the past I would have thought that having a girlfriend would make women uninterested in me. Nope they like you more.... How to get that feeling of abundance is being confident in your skill to get women. What does that mostly is having successes. You get successes by trial and e…
/r/seduction03/10/18 05:26 AM
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True. Although it is hard to remind myself of that. Sometimes it feels that you are rejected by a girl and any girl like her. Some time ago I found out out though that women are extremely diverse in what they find attractive in men. And there is no standard among them or at least a very lose one. One can say she doesn't like bald guys at all. The same girl will say that and than date a bald guy because he is not like the typical bald guy.
/r/seduction03/10/18 04:59 AM

I run in to this more on the seduction sub. Pseudo psychology and a disrespect of women their intelligence. You have attractive qualities and unattractive qualities. Some of this has to do with a women's perception of your place in a dominance hierarchy true. But seeing guys as alpha or beta is 99 percent of the time a far to simplistic view of human interaction, someones identity and attractiveness.
/r/seduction30/09/18 05:01 PM

Exactly You have this feeling in your stomach and chest when you try something with a woman. Approach, first kiss, phone call, asking out etc. You can decide to intepret that feeling as a fear for failing. Or excitement for what could happen. Choose the latter. You are doing something exciting and it is good that you take your life by the balls and you feel alive. You try and the trying makes you a man.
/r/seduction29/09/18 02:42 PM
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Well taking women dancing is great ofcourse. Dancing is building connection emotionally and sexually. Dancing is totally different.
/r/seduction28/09/18 02:05 PM

This is the seduction sub. OP is promoting this as a way of seducing. I am criticizing that. Not if it is ok if people are having fun experiences. If you want to seduce and have fun and you can combine that more power to you. No problem. But I am pointing out that these things don't overlap. Without exception I never had a positive seduction experience that included an elaborate date. Quite the opposite. The simpler the more personal and emotional I can get with a women. The better my results. W…
/r/seduction28/09/18 12:18 PM

Guys always want to do something. Also with other guys. They can't just sit and talk and build emotional connection. I guess I am different. I get a lot more fun out sitting with a girl talking an looking in to her eyes for a couple of hours. Doing something gets in the way of that. Especially going to mutiple places. You are trying to get somewhere half of the date! During that you are not doing something fun. You don't make eyecontact. You don't have a comfortable safe environment. You are unf…
/r/seduction28/09/18 11:17 AM

Alright. Everybody is talking about "fun" here. But come to think of it these tactics seem manipulative. Not about having a real connection with someone. Lets do something exciting so she get her heart racing for some pseudo psychological effect. And going to mutiple places so she thinks you have done a lot. I think it is disrespectful to women to think they can be tricked by this.
/r/seduction28/09/18 11:07 AM

No, and this doesn't convince me to read it. I think this is a fantasy a lot of guys want to believe. "If I have this amazing exciting life and succesful women will flock to me." It is only a very small part of seduction. I think what mostly happens is that guys get confidence by believing this and that makes them attractive. All this may imply something attractive about you that will spark a womans interest. But it isn't inherently what makes you attractive.
/r/seduction28/09/18 02:04 AM

Well we just have to agree to disagree here than. It doesn't hurt to do something fun. But it doesn't help either. I stay away from it.
/r/seduction27/09/18 10:59 PM

You are trying to impress her not seducing her. Those things are different. This is a common myth with guys. That they have to make a big effort. So that she will think "dating him is much cooler than boring dates with other guys". That last part is true. But how a date is, is about what YOU do! Not what cool date you can think of. Think about it. What does it say to a women. What attractive quality does it signal if you go bungeejumping? Can she fuck that experience? Can she fuck that bungeecor…
/r/seduction27/09/18 04:20 PM
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Exactly
/r/seduction27/09/18 04:12 PM

Where do you base a womans attraction on? For guys it is roughly: 70 percent Physical 20 percent Personality 10 percent other stuff Lets ad a factor "she can think of a great date". Maybe 1 percent? It only say a little bit about someones personality. Lets ad another factor "I had fun doing that activity". That factor does nothing for me. What people are hoping for that somehow you get associated as a person with that activity. And than somehow you get more attractive. "Exciting activity excitin…
/r/seduction27/09/18 03:51 PM
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Well it is ok to have fun with people. If you want to have and seduce at the same time why not. But you are selling this as if this somehow works as a seduction method. It doesn't imo. I have no idea what you are quoting or why it is relevant.
/r/seduction27/09/18 03:25 PM

The connection with the girl is the "awesome experience". Otherwise why just not go alone or with a friend if it is about the activity. I am not saying that you go straight to fucking. That was just to make my point. Like I said it is about the connection. That is the valuable part not this "great date" insanity. Sorry dude, I am not trying to be rude or anything. But this is whole approach is bonkers.
/r/seduction27/09/18 03:14 PM

You are so wrong here that it is almost cringy. It is not about the date dude. It is about the connection with you. She is interested in YOU. Having elaborate dates signals to her that you have to compensate for yourself aka doormat, nice guy, pedestaling etc. Just put yourself in her shoes. Would you fuck a girl any sooner if she took you on a elaborate date? Would she become more attractive? Exactly. You don't care. Women don't either.
/r/seduction27/09/18 02:22 PM
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Yes. Can any guy can learn to attract any women? Definitely not. ​ Like with any skill you have genetics and upbringing/experience up until the point you decide you want to learn seduction that will determine your success. ​ Learning seduction is great for guys who have very little skill that are overall average to smart guys with normal social skills. They can learn fast because they are already good guys, they only don't know how to seduce. ​ You also have guys who are below in intelligence an…
/r/seduction26/09/18 12:25 PM

Lol nah man I sound lazy. I am glad that those days are behind me. Sure I didn't like it at first. But I soon realised it is all good and you just have to move on. What I was trying to convey was that it is a waste of time chasing women. Especially if they already have serious doubts about you early on. Only put effort in "fuck yes" in all other cases move on. A lot more fun.
/r/seduction25/09/18 07:04 PM

I agree with this main idea. Had this happen to me. She wants to cut it off. And that is the beginning of another conversation. Tbh I have my doubts about you telling her you felt something. Looks needy to me. But being ok with it and having a no problem vibe sends out attractive qualities for sure. I don't take it seriously if I get rejected after a date or two. She doesn't really know me yet. And having asked why a couple of times it is random for the most part. When she cuts it off she is sti…
/r/seduction25/09/18 05:51 PM
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Cold approach can be very bad and make a girl uncomfortable. It can also be the best thing that has happened to her all month. Same as anything a guy tries in seduction. If you are a noob you are going to have some bad experiences on both sides. But we have no alternative. Guys must try so women and man can have great experiences together eventually.
/r/seduction22/09/18 05:00 PM
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Thx very kind thing to say
/r/seduction22/09/18 04:01 PM
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No prob. :) If you have any questions feel free to ask.
/r/seduction22/09/18 04:01 PM
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Guys who are beginning to try to get women for sex or relationships are at the beginning of their learning curve. OP is relatively young at 22. And talks about her experiences presumably of the last couple of years. So she probably has run into a fair share of noob seducers ranging from 18 up to 25. This can't be avoided because everybody has to start somewhere. Every guy having tried to get women sucked at in the beginning. Guys who never try to improve themselves can suck for decades.
/r/seduction22/09/18 03:18 PM
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Sorry I don't understand what you are trying to say.
/r/seduction22/09/18 02:59 PM
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A cold approach can be a great experience. Even be a start of a great relationship. When done in a genuine healthy good way women most of the time feel positive about it. Even if they are not interested they feel validated. I am not sure what you mean by "subs mantra". Or what that has to do with OP's personal experience.
/r/seduction22/09/18 02:03 PM
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Shouting compliments, often looks related, from a far to show sexual interest. Men do this because they like women and from far away they are still in their comfort zone. Often with other guys. Sometimes women do this too. But a lot less often. Women feel intimidated and objectified by this. And in recent years has been viewed as very negative. Mostly because it isn't a connection. It is something that is forced on you. It isn't a conversation. You just have to walk past if you like it or not an…
/r/seduction22/09/18 11:32 AM
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Sarcasm?
/r/seduction22/09/18 10:38 AM
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Thx I put a lot of thought into it :)
/r/seduction22/09/18 10:09 AM
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This post is negative about seduction and that is not what people come to this sub for. But I am going to respond because I get where you are coming from. The problem isn't that men try seduction. The problem is that some men try seduction and don't know what they are doing. Catcalling isn't promoted on this sub at all. It is a rude dumb tactic that doesn't get you anywhere. Cold approaching is promoted. And this can be great or hell depending on the execution. You have a lot of ways men approac…
/r/seduction22/09/18 09:18 AM
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What white lies are differs for everybody. Some guys think of nightgame and ONS as a free for all. And as long as they don't hurt anybody and be a girl s fantasy anything goes. They lie about everything age, resumé, anecdotal fun stories. Most people are somewhere between white lies that are circumstantial like "I have go to I have to feed my cat in the morning". To small lies about who they are. Shaving a couple of years of their age. That they have a bit better job. Mostly it are insecurities …
/r/seduction21/09/18 06:34 AM

So you are saying your FWB/FB has to pick someone of her friend group? And you spontaneously bring it up when hanging out. That actually isn't a bad idea. Still you have to have a FWB who regularly hangs with a group of friends. Who also are progressive. This is somewhere between the two situation I described. Sure you open up the topic with the idea of arranging. But the rest is spontaneous.
/r/seduction21/09/18 06:24 AM
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Well first, calm the f down. You should reflect more on what you are doing. It sounds that you are approaching way too much. Max 3 a week. And really commit to it. And after reflect on what went wrong. And don't do it in the same place. And level up when you feel comfertable in your approach. The easiest is approaching a girl a bit you already know somewhere she is alone and open body language. The hardest is seducing a girl in front of her group of friends and she feels interrupted by you. Ther…
/r/seduction17/09/18 10:05 AM
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A lot of master seducers swear by the second date cook together thing. And I emphasize "together". Let her bring something. Let her cut something. You can get some touching. And preparing a meal is somehow very romantic. Also you can show you have skill and know what you are doing. This is also attractive. If you cook for her. It leans towards a "I want to impress you" gesture. Don't do that ever!
/r/seduction02/09/18 01:25 AM

Thx for your reply very helpfull everytime you do. What I meant though was that I wasn't sure that she even thought it was a date in advance. And cracking these types of women I meant. I have seduces smart women. But these shy smart type women are hard. Scared to let things flow naturally. They seem to decide with there heads and some random smart reason of the month they shouldn't like a guy. Also idealism. Smart women I have seduced are smart but a lot more practical.
/r/seduction30/08/18 05:08 AM

She is on the edge of thinking she can do better. So she tries getting stuff from you to keep her satisfied. But it is a rabbit hole. When women try to change you they win in the short term but lose in the long term. Because what makes you attractive is being confident and your own man. Some guys give everything to a women and they just dump him because they lost respect for him. So give away as little as possible. As soon as you start she will keep taking. And your value will go down so she kee…
/r/seduction30/08/18 04:41 AM
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Yes but slightly. It also depends on the app. Why did a person choose a certain app? Quality people just don't stay single for very long. So even if they go on a datingapp. They tend to not be there long. Also quality people have beter long term relationships. So more often just the group of single people are slightly less quality than people in a relationship. That is just common sense. Like in your social circle. Who is single? Are they the quality people or the leftovers? Past 25 a lot qualit…
/r/seduction29/08/18 07:13 PM

When we were walking home and having fun we looked at nature. I put my hand on her schoulder. She was ok with that. Than I tried to cuddle while standing I guess? Just that are bodies would be facing. To be honest it wasn't my best escalation. We both felt the wine. Also it wasn't a high note. There were some earlier that evening. She seemed to have more open body language. But that went up and down. I was touching her all the time and leading. She seemed ok with that. But when I slightly tried …
/r/seduction27/08/18 08:37 AM
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Thx. For the follow up. I went out with her and we had a wonderful evening. I touched her. We laughed. We had fun. Went in for the escalation..... and she turned away looking annoyed. She said she should go. I drove her home just talking as nothing happened. Me not wanting to iniate any contact. She hugged me when we said goodbye. Probably a pity hug XD She gave me mixed signals. Maybe wasn't turned on when I tried to escalate. Being engaged than looking away arms crossed. Than liking me again. …
/r/seduction27/08/18 08:01 AM

Thx. For the follow up. I went out with her and we had a wonderful evening. I touched her. We laughed. We had fun. Went in for the escalation..... and she turned away looking annoyed. She said she should go. I drove her home just talking as nothing happened. Me not wanting to iniate any contact. She hugged me when we said goodbye. Probably a pity hug XD She gave me mixed signals. Maybe wasn't turned on when I tried to escalate. Being engaged than looking away arms crossed. Than liking me again. …
/r/seduction23/08/18 03:17 AM
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And thx for this detailed explaination.
/r/seduction21/08/18 10:26 AM

Hmmmm. Well maybe it is hard to convey the whole situation. Maybe I am dumbass. But for me it where very subtle cues. I guess I was feeling a bit awkward to try and have sex with a girl visting from another town who is in a jam for a place to stay. Over your sofa to a stranger and than having sex feels creepy to me. I hope that is understandable? I read up on signs. And when she came to get her things last evening there where non. She wasn't pointing her feet at me. And didn't have a lot of eye …
/r/seduction21/08/18 10:25 AM
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I am on equal hurt on these. A harsh rejection can make me feel like what I am doing is weird. Not doing anything makes me feel I am wasting my life. BUT!: Most approaches or tries I am not harshly rejected. A friendly rejection to a hooking up is far better than not doing anything. I feel alive with getting those!
/r/seduction13/08/18 12:44 PM
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Never had a date with a super liked person. Could be coincedence since half of matches don't talk back. Half of those the convo doesn't go anywhere. And half of those doesn't somehow become a date. So already 7 out of 8 of your matches doesn't become a date. Since you super like maybe 1 in 20 to 30 profiles you like. It isn't hard to believe it is a random result. My feeling is that it does almost as much good as it does bad. Sure she will look at your profile twice. But she will like you out of…
/r/seduction05/08/18 07:50 AM
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When I hear that, I modestly symphatize and than ignore it. I say something like. "No problem, I just like spending time with you" and start talking about something else. The same as asking to go home with her. She maybe says no with an excuse. The main idea here is not to make a big thing out of it. In my experience joking about it already makes it a thing. And she may even think you don't take her seriously. By doing that you are doubleing down on that your boldness will push trough as attract…
/r/seduction03/08/18 04:07 PM
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Exactly my experience
/r/seduction03/08/18 04:01 PM
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Aah alright :)
/r/seduction30/07/18 05:07 PM
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So when you just want sex you say you want a relationship?
/r/seduction30/07/18 09:41 AM
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And if she is attractive...
/r/seduction27/07/18 01:45 AM
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Tattoos are a good conversation starter. You can do anything to look approachable. Not necessarily tats. If you want to be a run of the mill guy get tattoos. If you want to be yourself or go against fashion don't get tattoos. But for getting women you probably are on the wrong track. You can just approach them. Tattoos are just a detail of your style not that important. Tattoos are not about tattoos it is what it says about you what the women finds positive from a distance.
/r/seduction21/07/18 10:50 AM

Some people need to hear this. Others need direction. I benefited a lot from studying the subject of seduction. For me having one date or one approach and than analyzing it thouroughly helped me a lot. I stopped making progress with just dating. Just hanging out with women doesn't get you laid. So I am about fifty fifty on theory and practice. Some parts of seduction you just need experience. But you can hit a plateau very easily if you miss some key theory. But sure some guys just need to get o…
/r/seduction21/07/18 10:39 AM
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That comment was more about that she isn't someone I am after dating. She isn't part of the fun positive open group of people. Sure it can be a considered a normal response with context. Even I would react this way in some circumstance. Still confident women don't act this way 9 times out of 10. Why not tell me to fuck off? That would have been more normal and I would have respected that. I basically just said hi....
/r/seduction15/07/18 05:12 PM
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I understand you can get that vibe. But a girl can still make an impression on me she is as dumb as nails. I vented this after. I was butthurt for a little while. But I see it as an experience. I don't know her and she doesn't know me. That comment was more about that she isn't someone I am after dating. She isn't part of the fun positive open group of people. Edit: btw with "6 at best" I meant that she probably doesn't get hit on all the time
/r/seduction15/07/18 01:00 PM
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Well we will never know. Could be depression or some psychiatric disorder or autism. Or maybe she had the flew or something. Or maybe a bad day. She made a very foggy impression on me. And avoidend obviously. Aloof cocky. I would have been fine with that. I can work with that.
/r/seduction14/07/18 07:08 PM
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Well yeah I would recognised rude and cocky. This was really flat... But maybe that was part of it sure. And I agree with you.
/r/seduction14/07/18 07:01 PM
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Yeah you are right. It wasn't traumatizing. I already feel ok about it. I just wanted to vent and reflect on it. This was just the worst one I got.
/r/seduction14/07/18 05:20 PM
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Any advice?
/r/seduction12/07/18 01:38 PM
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The first one looks like you are tired and bored. Like posing for your drivers licence after waiting in line three hours. The second one has a authentic expression. You are authenthically smilling hanging out with friends. That is good. But you have a graffity wall behind you.... This conveys hoodrat. Photos are not about your physical dimensions and style. It is for the most part what women feel from a picture. Are you a fun guy she can hang out with?
/r/seduction11/07/18 11:01 AM
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It can be luck. If you use these as pics on a datingprofile they are pretty bad. As for your game. Maybe it is something in your behavior. It is hard but if you get the chance ask women or men what is bad about your behavior. I did this one time. And I didn't like it but she was honest. And eventually she gave me some insight in how I can come acros. It could be dozens of things you are doing wrong. Most common flaw I think personally is that someone isn't authentic. Women feel that intuitively.…
/r/seduction11/07/18 09:37 AM
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I will read your guide. But tbh I got in to seduction to approach women out of my social circle. I don't have the energy (cancer) or friends to go to parties. Sure I want and from time to time go to a party. But to build your social circle with going out and partying is far to much effort with little return. I did that when I was younger (I am 30m) but meeting new women this way was rare. The same people go to the same parties. It could be you go to a party and there are three new women there. A…
/r/seduction06/07/18 07:37 PM
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Thx man. This is great advice. I think you are right. I am going to think about this. And how I can change my view on this.
/r/seduction28/06/18 04:35 PM
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Alright thx. I relocated my post to askseddit.
/r/seduction28/06/18 06:24 AM
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Yeah, that sums it up nicely.
/r/seduction28/06/18 04:23 AM
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That actually is a good tip
/r/seduction25/06/18 05:42 PM
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You got a example there mate?
/r/seduction24/06/18 04:24 PM
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Great comment.
/r/seduction24/06/18 12:56 AM
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Ow alright no problem :)
/r/seduction18/06/18 08:43 PM
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But who cares? She wasn't going to respond. I said I understood and wished her a happy summer. I didn't ask her anything. I understood that you shouldn't double text. But sometimes. If the situation is dead you can still have a shot in the dark with a second text. It only increases your chances maybe with 10 percent. But it is something.
/r/seduction18/06/18 08:34 PM
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Why? I waited two days for her to reply. So I already had almost no chance she would reply. I took a shot, guessed what was wrong. And showed I was open emphatic and not needy.
/r/seduction18/06/18 07:55 PM
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Yeah I agree. Although a lot of the time you ask a number because you want to continue talking but you have to go. So you can't stay to long. I just stay another minute or two. So you don't have the number and ran effect.
/r/seduction18/06/18 07:52 PM
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Good point. Staying in the interaction? Why?
/r/seduction18/06/18 06:37 PM
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I meant that I already knew I made her nervous. So that isn't good. And she had a freudian slip. That she didn't really wanted to give her number. Yeah is is super high especially as a beginner. So I don't care :).
/r/seduction18/06/18 06:24 PM
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I didn't care about the second text. I don't do that usually. But I had nothing to lose. I did it mostly just to experiment. And I didn't explain or apologized. In my experience if you guess her concerns spot on you can start up the dialog again. Most of the time the damage is done. But still you have a chance with a second text. Just don't ask for anything. And be ok with her decision. Waiting three days is lame imo. One day max. If she liked you there is no reason why she wouldn't respond. If …
/r/seduction18/06/18 05:23 PM
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I wasn't a virgin. But I was pretty clueless 6 months ago. I dated before and had a couple of girlfriends. But in hindsight that was just luck. I didn't know anything. I knew how to have a relationship but not how to seduce someone. I dated before too but I just met up as friends. Didn't understand what makes a guy attractive sexually. Didn't understand you can seduce someone. I just thought in a romantic sense that if you just talked and rationally where compatible that was enough. I was comple…
/r/seduction13/06/18 04:21 PM
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Thx man :)
/r/seduction03/06/18 05:45 PM
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I agree I know. But I wasn't trying to be perfect. Just to do it! I will analyse and repeat. So thx for the tip :).
/r/seduction03/06/18 05:43 PM
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Thx for the reply. But those were all examples to illustrate the point of my post. Not actual questions. But besides that. Good points :)
/r/seduction17/05/18 02:54 PM
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Trust your gut. Women cheat. It happens. And it happens the way you describe. Reading between the lines is essential. Some signs she is not DTF: -Talks about her bf a lot -Does any behavior that makes her unattractive and she wouldn't do on a date -any behavior that seems unexcited to see you For her to jump ship she should have a healthy dose of attraction to you. A slow burn isn't going to work. Because of character or lack of attraction and the situation. Signs that don't mean not DTF right a…
/r/seduction17/05/18 06:35 AM
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Dude!!! You have to ask to meet up and than ask for her number. Not the other way around!
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:46 AM
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Hmm ok yeah that seems realistic.
/r/seduction12/05/18 07:24 PM
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1 I agree she was probably in love with something else. Probably with a fantasy. 2 sure 3 yeah my assesment too. It seemed a weird reason if you really like someone. What do you think of the depression part?
/r/seduction12/05/18 07:18 PM
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Hmmm ok cool. What I meant was: a big difference or not?
/r/seduction12/05/18 07:14 PM
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And does it work for you?
/r/seduction12/05/18 07:04 PM
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You think. But yeah sure it depends on the girl. But come on. From 6 to 8 years in my case.
/r/seduction12/05/18 07:03 PM
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Aah ok. That seems fair. To advandced for me maybe :)
/r/seduction12/05/18 06:56 PM
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Ideally. But It doesn't seem to matter if you really like someone. Than women tell you "age is just a number".
/r/seduction12/05/18 06:39 PM
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They could be deeprooted. I don't know man. I like to keep things simple. Honest and open. Women know when you act a certain way to get in their pants. I believe in good fundamentals. When those are good and you are having a good time those charachteristics seems to be only about the rational of what kind of relationship you want or can have. But I agree it can be important to know her attitudes towards the charachteristics. I just don't think it is a good approach to start from.
/r/seduction12/05/18 06:33 PM
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Sure man thx
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:11 PM
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Thx. That is good advice. I think you are right. Don't let it become any bigger.
/r/seduction12/05/18 04:00 PM
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I didn't lie. Just didn't update the profile. And as soon as my age came up I told her. But yeah I won't do that again that is for sure. Or just won't forget to tell her on the first date.
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:51 PM
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Well I think.it is valuable to know if a woman is any of these types. But I think if she is seduced. Than it doesn't really matter. She will make it work. A lot of women seem realists but get idealists when they really like a guy.
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:02 PM
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Lol
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:48 PM
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Amuse mastery? Well my first reponse when it first came up. I made a joke out of it. Being light hearted about. And explained why it didn't matter. But if she wanted to walk she should do that. I only apoligized after two weeks because the first thing didn't work out. How should I have responded.
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:41 PM
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Sound logical and interesting. What book? That pandora thing seems like a scam to be honest.
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:33 PM
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The question is: Is it helpful to categorize women in this way? Do different strategies help with different women?
/r/seduction12/05/18 01:43 PM
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Thx, yeah I probably do that :)
/r/seduction08/05/18 08:51 AM

Damn that is good advice
/r/seduction08/05/18 08:48 AM
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I think the seddit is more about getting good at seduction for whatever reason. That could be because you want a gf or want to have a lot of gf's. Being average at everything and just dating will get you a gf sooner or later. Because there are a lot of women out there who are compatible with you. That doesn't mean you are good at seduction. If you you want average results average ability is enough :)
/r/seduction24/04/18 05:21 PM
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That makes no sense. If it doesn't matter if you are wrong why would it matter if you are right?
/r/seduction04/04/18 04:37 PM
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I think the "cold reading" is a bit tricky. Most women don't like if you talk for them. Also if you guess right she might like you more. But if you guess wrong she likes you less. If you are to much in the safe zone with your "guess" it will be too obvious. So I would avoid this altogether.
/r/seduction04/04/18 04:18 PM
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As an opener or in general? I mean. It seems highly effective later on to escalate and to let her know ypu are sexually interested.
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:21 PM
1

Hmmm never thought of it that way :p
/r/seduction20/03/18 05:57 PM
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Go alone. Simple Think about it. You want to pick up women. So eventually you will talk to a woman. You have to do that alone anyways. You want to go with someone so you have a comfortzone there. Well if you want to pick up women they are in the way. You have to be friendly with them and hang out. And get them a girl too otherwise they will be alone when you are talking to girls. If you are there with a purpose a wingman is in the way. If you want to be scared and hang back in your comfort zone …
/r/seduction20/03/18 11:59 AM
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If you need a friend you can be friends. But I have enough friends. I don't see the point in being friends with women I tryed to have sex with. Also you have the wrong start. You started of as romantic interests. So it seems that a women likes that, just not the sex. So you have to start over. So it is like telling a person you don't know you want to be friends. Same on datingapps women who say they are looking for friends. It is a false pretext. Women: you don't make friends by dating. Grow up!
/r/seduction20/03/18 11:50 AM
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If you have unprotected sex. You are sooner or later going to have sex with somebody who has herpes. You can't test on it. And the person most likely is unaware they have it. The chance of infection isn't high with one encounter. Most of highly sexual people have herpes. It is just part of the game. You just have to hope you are not one of the people who have it who have severve outbreaks 5 times a year.
/r/seduction14/03/18 05:14 PM
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Everytime? So with every match for 30 matches?
/r/seduction13/03/18 12:03 PM
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Far to complicated. You put to much effort in to it. Guys trying this hard seem desperate. You may appear funny and intelligent. But she won't feel the under the belt spark.
/r/seduction13/03/18 11:03 AM
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Tinder is used by all kinds of women. I think it isn't far of from the actual datingpool. Maybe people using tinder are slightly more ok with the quickness and the simpleness of it. Some women will go with different dating apps because tinder is too picture heavy. And tinder has a bit of a reputation to some. And women interested in fuckbuddies aren't the majority at least where I live. But women open to such a relationship or can be seduced to have one are at least 20 percent. And that is my ex…
/r/seduction13/03/18 10:59 AM
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What you have to do is stand out. So I never start a first message with "Hey name," Because this is what everybody does. But even when I was doing it I got responses. I usually just make a funny or a "we know us" observation. There doesn't seem to be a trick to it. Except for standing out. But for the most part a woman just has to be availible and open to a new tindercontact. She must have time and space in her life. She won't suddenly respond to you if you have a smart opener forgetting she has…
/r/seduction13/03/18 10:41 AM
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Most STD's aren't a big problem (yes really but hold on) Except for aids, herpes and genital warts. The rest can be cured by antibiotics. Genital warts most people carry the virus of. But never have an outbreak. And condoms don't protect you. So if you had sex you probably are infected. As with herpes depending where you live a large part of the population has genital herpes. Some country's 90 percent others 20 percent. Most people who have the virus never have an outbreak. And when they do it i…
/r/seduction12/03/18 10:25 PM
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Yeah I get what you mean. The difference is that I would ask it (and do) with a lot of subtext. I can't really convey the difference over text. But you can actually ask this question in a provacative flirtaous way. You don't care if she finds you attractive you are right. What you do here, with this question is you go straight to the sex part with confidence. Other guys would flinch asking something like that. But not you. You ask it in full confidence with a smirk on your face. It has nothing t…
/r/seduction07/03/18 05:05 PM
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I competely disagree. But there is a lot in the delivery. I think it reeks of security because you are willing to take a direct rejection. Also "real man". I think you are to much into "playing it cool". That doesn't work.
/r/seduction07/03/18 04:45 PM
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Alright. But let me ask you than. Why do you give a shit if she is attracted to you? So you can act? Just act either way man. Say what and who you find attractive. Seduce what you desire. Don't wait around on people finding you attractive.
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:56 AM
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When she sucks you off you can be pretty sure. But all obvious fun aside. I have a crazy idea: Ask if she is attracted to you. Best way to know for sure. She will give straight answer either way. She doesn't want to ruin her chance with you if she is. Don't be creepy or insecure or evasive about it. Just ask her straight up. "Hey, I have been sensing this vibe between us. I think you look cute. Do you find me attractive?"
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:15 AM
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No talking or knowing names? Wtf?
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:09 AM
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What do you mean "work"? Did you think there was a time that if you send "lets netflix and chill at my place" would get you laid? No. Itis just a sentence that can be good or bad in a conversation.
/r/seduction25/02/18 01:38 AM
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Simple. Talk to the girl in question. Release tentions about the encounter. Ask her number and talk to her. Be kind and respectful.
/r/seduction19/02/18 12:06 PM
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Thx although imo they don't want to be seen publicly kissing the same guy.
/r/seduction17/02/18 11:51 PM
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You can go two ways: spontaneous or arranged The arranged way is hard because most women if they think about it don't want to do threesomes. Even if you have that fuckbuddy who is high in experimentation. You have to find another girl who wants to do that too. And who likes both of you. So unlikely.. The spontaneous way is much more realistic. That means having two girls who are in their early twenties party phase and living together. So you go to your usual pick up party bar/club and try to do …
/r/seduction17/02/18 05:54 PM
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Silences could be an indication of you being boring. Often girls will think: if we have nothing to talk about on our first date how will that be in 10 years? Most girls want to have fun. I think overall it is better if you have had a good conversation with the urge on both sides you want to talk. But there are introverted girls who like it if you aren't extroverted. Because that is often a bad match.
/r/seduction13/02/18 05:15 PM
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XD
/r/seduction13/02/18 02:39 PM
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Yeah, you are a real midget..... Dude as long as you aren't "everybody spots you are short as soon as you walk in a room" there is no problem. What is a problem, is that it becomes a self fullfilling prophecy. If you are insecure about your height women dislike that and don't feel the below the belt spark.
/r/seduction31/01/18 06:30 AM
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In game I hear mixed opinions on picking up women who are shopping. Some say that it is great. You are in daylight and women feel more validated. And because it isn't a bar you have a better oppurtunity. But some say it is bad because often women like in groceries stores are busy. They are completing a task you are interfering with. I think it is hit and miss. At 1730 a lot of women come from work and have not eaten and want to go home as soon as possible when picking up groceries. But two girls…
/r/seduction31/01/18 06:23 AM
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Crude explanation. But in essence correct. But is that the sex part? And do you think that it matters if like me I sometimes dial confidence from a 9 to a 6.5? The difference between getting somewhere and nowhere?
/r/seduction22/01/18 01:43 PM
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Wasted too much time on flaky girls. It is much better to just let them be. It usually goes nowhere anyways. The reason they are flaky isn't going to change anytime soon. If they are busy now they will be busy forever to let it go some where.
/r/seduction22/01/18 01:39 AM
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If there is a oppurtunity definetly ask. You can learn something valuable. But a lot of girls had experiences with guys who want to debate why they are a good fit. This never works because it looks desperate. Just say it is totally fine if you get rejected and than ask why she thinks you aren't a good fit. And than leave it at that.
/r/seduction18/01/18 11:52 PM
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That happened to me too a couple of times. Some advice: First of all. Understand that your friends haven't done anything, other than arranging a meetup. Most of the time the other person getting set up is clueless. "So I was told to meet you here so whats up?". That kind of thing. That is why I dislike setups. You can't trust your friends to talk or seduce on your behave. They just try to get two people together. Often with excuses. Everytime I thought it was much better if I just talked to the …
/r/seduction18/01/18 11:47 PM
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Bipolar two sentences apart? Unlikely. Bipolar disorder is about long periods of depression followed up by manic periods. It is very hard to tell. Saw some traits of BPD and NPD. But like she said she could have been traumatized. But anyways see was boring and seemed uninterested. I have no idea really what she wanted out of our conversation or get together the second time. She even implied some condescending things about me. Maybe she was testing me or something. But I wasn't in the mood for ga…
/r/seduction14/01/18 10:14 PM
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I didn't see a witty or healthy cynisism in her. There was no funny darkness to it. It was just being negative. I know the episode. I don't see a resembles. Interesting thought though :)
/r/seduction14/01/18 11:36 AM
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Happens to me all the time. Especially with. "Enjoy your ....." and than replying "you too".
/r/seduction13/01/18 04:06 PM
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Yes, I said "and/or".
/r/seduction09/01/18 11:21 PM
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TLDR: Despite people saying you shouldn't compliment women on their looks. You still can, if you are good looking and/or have a good delivery.
/r/seduction09/01/18 10:39 PM
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Sure I agree. That why I said you have to slip in some flirting to make your intentions clear.
/r/seduction19/12/17 06:59 PM

Just talk like you talk to your friends. Women want that. Normal friendly conversation. If you go on a date it is the same. Just slip in some flirting to know you desire her sexually. And never show you are scared.
/r/seduction19/12/17 07:22 AM

I don't want to become a hulk. Think of all the wardrobes I would have to buy.
/r/seduction19/12/17 06:17 AM
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Lol. No I was serious. This behavior seems childish. It is ok when you are eighteen no judgment. Just fooling around with the boys, right? But I am 28 and nobody I know does this. Not my girls or my bros. If you are 21+ well maybe I am just oblivious to this side of tinder.
/r/seduction18/12/17 06:12 PM
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And how old are you people? XD No offense but who's got time for that?
/r/seduction18/12/17 11:46 AM
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Just helping dude. And this is probably what you need to hear. That reponse speaks volumes.
/r/seduction18/12/17 09:04 AM
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.... have you read anything what I have replyed? It doesn't matter. Stop worrying about your appearance. If you spends hours a week on these things you might want to see a therapist. In that case you are probably an anxious person. That is a much bigger problem than your hairline.
/r/seduction18/12/17 08:59 AM
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Last time you asked if you looked old. Like I told you. Your insecurity about how you look is the biggest problem. Don't focus on your appearence this much. You stare into the mirror for hours. Women don't. They make up a general idea about you. Just try to be the best you can be look wise. After that you have to let it be. And try to be confident and fun. You don't have to worry about hairlines. If you can't change it ignore it.
/r/seduction18/12/17 08:55 AM
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F*ck it. There is nothing wrong with making mistakes. Trial, error, learn and repeat. It was a very powerful thought the day I realised that there will always be people thinking your an asshole and that is ok. I f'ed up with girls a lot harder than this. And it doesn't matter you can just try to not f'ck up things with the next girl. And if you ever run in to the girl you f'ed up things with, you can always set the record straight.
/r/seduction18/12/17 08:41 AM
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I don't care if they don't initiate. Girls especially early on, a lot of times won't initiate anything. Why? Because some or all of these reasons. -Because she can get rejected. -Because they are lazy and it is "the guys job" -She doesn't want to emotionally invest because she doesn't want to get hurt. -Because they are hooked on the feeling a guy wanting them. They like it when an attractive guy shows he wants her. -Sex is about dominance of the male. You are dancing and you have to lead. So it…
/r/seduction18/12/17 08:32 AM
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In four out of five times this happens to me, it means that it won't go anywhere (Early on setting up dates trouble). Two out of those four are just not interested. Two are not sure and life gets busy in between so it has the same outcome. And one is just having a bad couple of weeks and has to breath and will get back to you. In my experience it is much better to just let it be and not to chase. Even with the two who are not sure it will probably won't go anywhere because they can meet guys the…
/r/seduction18/12/17 08:12 AM
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What does any of this have to do with seduction?
/r/seduction18/12/17 08:00 AM
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I agree, it is some of the first things you think of. Someone ask you for something personal to share. Your response naturally is: "I don't share ... with anyone". Basically saying she doesn't see any point in getting more personal with you.
/r/seduction17/12/17 11:47 PM
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Well almost certainly she is not interested. There is no reason to not give your phone number if you like someone. Even as friends. But hey it could be she had a bad experience recently with a guy harrassing her after giving her number. It happens. But like all of these things. If the chance/statistics are against you don't bother. Ninety percent chance it is not going to happen between you to. Your efforts are best spend on someone else. If you talk to her if you run in to her no problem. But I…
/r/seduction17/12/17 11:40 PM
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Yeah. But if you are familiar with the sediction community. There is disrespect and manipulative behavior lurking
/r/seduction16/12/17 03:29 PM
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Haha sorry. With "no way". I meant that you are absolutely right. Like "no way they are experts on here"
/r/seduction16/12/17 01:44 PM
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No way. I think maybe 1 in 10 has actual good game on here. Maybe 1 in 50 is an expert. Although most guys just get a lot better at it when they are older. A lot of 18 yo no clue posters on here. And a lot of "experts" when they are 29.
/r/seduction16/12/17 10:43 AM
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Funny
/r/seduction16/12/17 12:06 AM
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Interesting. I find it puzzling why men like your friends like it taht way. Maybe sexual conquest is something beyond respect? I always show respect. But I never let a women disrespect me. No mather how hot she is. Fun teasing alright ofcourse. I avoid chicks who obviusly got mental problems. Self mutalation scars or being way to easy with no self respect. Or if they are wasted. Why would you want have sex with somebody who is passed out? I consider that rape. Maybe harsh but if somebody is drun…
/r/seduction15/12/17 10:59 PM
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Most men? Isn't this all obvious?
/r/seduction15/12/17 08:51 PM
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But what is love if you are mostly interested in sex? Nothing long term
/r/seduction15/12/17 06:53 PM
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Sorry I rephrased it incorrectly. I corrected it ones again.
/r/seduction15/12/17 04:43 PM

Sure but it seems there is always at least one who wants to emphasize you have to disrespect women. Maybe it is trolling...?
/r/seduction15/12/17 03:10 PM
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I think you nailed it. Thinking of women as whores seems to me, about insecurity. Pedestaling them maybe too. Women are just as insecure and flawed as men. Either way guys who do one or the other have a lot to learn.
/r/seduction15/12/17 03:07 PM

I agree.
/r/seduction15/12/17 03:02 PM
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Comments in posts. In post it is not allowed.
/r/seduction15/12/17 03:01 PM
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I understand. And I thought as much. I don't know if it is pointless. You get to know each other. Try to have some laughs. But you stumble upon a common difference between men and women. Women like talking more and about things slightly different things than men. Men are often obsessed with competition. So they talk about sports or other men who achieved something or what they achieved or want to achieve. Women like talking about their emotional lives and experiences. And seek social support mor…
/r/seduction14/12/17 07:04 AM
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That is very hard to answer. You are basically asking how to be more social. I am a very social guy. I don't even think about it that much. You being apprehensive already sets the wrong vibe to let your conversation flow naturally. So try to losen up and act as with friends. I usually just text about where I left off with a girl. Where I met her something that happened. Elaborate on that and make jokes. Jokes are always a good idea. If you want a conversation starter just ask her how her day was…
/r/seduction14/12/17 06:47 AM
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It can build familiarity. Women like that and get comfortable. It has its pros and cons. Con mostly that it takes too much time and energy. It think a lot of people recommend against texting because a lot of guys are bad at texting. And there isn't a lot of real attraction going trough text. Also it is a leftover of pua guys before there were smartphones with emoticon and sending pictures. This improved communication a lot. If a guy is not the best communicator this often gets exagerated trough …
/r/seduction14/12/17 06:02 AM
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Doesn't matter how good looking you are. Only 1 in 10 women take initiative. So for every girl who approaches you 10 have to be interested. I think only about 1 in 30 guys can pull that off. That he walks in a bar and just waits and leaves with someone because he gets cold approached. But being an 8+ and doing the approaching yourself extremely improve your chances.
/r/seduction04/12/17 06:31 PM
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No promises alright I get it thx.
/r/seduction29/11/17 11:18 PM

You have a lot of upvotes. But I think this is one of those rare occasions that I don't understand what somebody is saying while most other people do. Are you saying that loving someone is fine if not told it is love and as long as your actions are in line with non loving behaviors there is no problem?
/r/seduction29/11/17 09:14 PM
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jackpot
/r/seduction29/11/17 05:38 PM
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Alright well..... what can I say. I don't care about macho social status. I am not in to "game" or anything.
/r/seduction29/11/17 04:43 PM

Hahah what is a macho social status? Dude I never kiss and tell.
/r/seduction29/11/17 04:32 PM
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Good advice. Still if you are honest and grownups it is nice to let somebody know what to expect from you.
/r/seduction29/11/17 04:29 PM
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Wrong on all accounts. I am trying to avoid hurting people including myself.
/r/seduction29/11/17 04:06 PM
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That is actually a great youtube video. Although I don't have the goals this guy has. I can take things from it.
/r/seduction29/11/17 10:14 AM
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I don't know maybe we try to pick up different women in different countries in different subcultures. The dumber the women the more they find you attractive on superficial qualities. I don't do the 18 year old club hookup thing. I am in my late twenties. So already I never go below 21. Just because I don't think 18 year olds are attractive or good in bed. Women a little older get slighty turned on by different things. A women is not like a guy. She likes fucking and hot guys same as us but getti…
/r/seduction23/11/17 11:45 AM
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True. If it is just sex/hookup in the most literal sense looks are 90 percent. Although "looks" aren't just physical dimensions. Especially for guys it is also how you look out of your eyes posture and how you move. This must scream confidence and sexual determination. That is at least 40 percent of "looks". What complicates this idea is that most guys who are physically good looking also are confident. But the confident part plays a big part. That 10 percent is just not being an asshole and you…
/r/seduction23/11/17 10:09 AM
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Yeah it makes sense. Most girls have mixed feelings about casual sex. But they can be persuaded by hotter guys. Simply because they see it as a rare oppurtunity. Still I think it is the difference between being a 7 or 9 isn't that important because of variance in taste. And other things that are important. If you are a 7 but a hot girl's type you can shoot up to a 9. If you are a 7 but fun to be around and they feel comfortable with the same. Just standing in a bar with bad to mediocre game with…
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:27 AM
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There is no way to tell. Because of lightning etc. If you want to cut of some years. It is varily easy nowadays. You have skin products. And laser treatments. Cheapest best way is to start with a cleanser and exfoliating. Removes dead skincells. Makes your skin glow again and keeps it clean. But you don't get my point. It doesn't matter. For picking up women. You focusing on this means you lack in self esteem. That is a way bigger turn off than looking slightly older. People are extremely bad at…
/r/seduction22/11/17 08:17 PM
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At the end of all this people like to be with people their own "market value". If you are not hot and you want a hot gf you should bring something else to the table.
/r/seduction22/11/17 08:10 PM
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Don't focus on your insecurities. It doesn't matter if you look older or not. If you want to get girls dat three years older look won't matter much. You are still a relatively young guy so you can get hot chicks.
/r/seduction22/11/17 08:07 PM
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You are both humans live in the same place. Enough in common. You don't have to talk about similiar interests just be interested :)
/r/seduction20/11/17 09:02 PM
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Well the thing is. They are scared too. And as soon as you start talking it just becomes natural and normal. It is like all new things. A bit scary. But nothing to worry about in the end. You are just two humans what can go wrong? You don't have to do anything special. Just talk like with friends. And if you want to have more trow in some flirting that comes to mind. After a few dates it becomes common place. Just put on some nice clothes and take a plunge. After those few minutes it will be lik…
/r/seduction20/11/17 04:17 PM
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NLP is pseudoscience. It's premises are flawed. It contradicts basic principles that are well established on how humans develop and learn. Beyond that interventions based on NLP have never proven to be effective. So it has no place in academia and it isn't taught at universities. It has been popular in self help books and pua because it promises a relatively easy way to learn social skills. So commerce perpetuated this nonsense. You shouldn't take things at face value. Just ask any expert in the…
/r/seduction20/11/17 03:50 PM
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I know. It shows. But the shape is less than desirable. Just my opinion. No offense.
/r/seduction18/11/17 10:38 PM
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Communication is to difficult to get links or tips on really. Social interaction is too complicated. Anybody who improves, does by trial and error. There are some basics though. It is not what you say it but how you say it. Non verbal. So shoulders and back straight. Look at her be intrigued with her. Smile a lot. Confidence. Remember that and just open your mouth see where it leads you. If you can be funny and engaging with your friends or other people. Well that is about the same as you will b…
/r/seduction18/11/17 09:33 PM
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Step 1: trim your eyebrows.
/r/seduction18/11/17 08:46 PM

NLP doesn't work.
/r/seduction18/11/17 08:32 PM
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Awesome dude, awesome.
/r/seduction18/11/17 09:05 AM
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You got a U shaped curve in the "time spend before having sex". That kind of makes sense. Some girls want a ONS others a relationship. So first meeting is enough to know you want to have sex. A relationship takes awhile. Maybe that is why a second date sex has the biggest dip. A girl decided she didn't want a ONS but also doesn't know you well enough for a relationship.
/r/seduction16/11/17 10:56 AM
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Good video to get pointers from. Especially how he looks at her.
/r/seduction16/11/17 06:29 AM
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True. My guideline is second meet up (with no texting in between and not knowing eachother and/or party alcohol situation). First meetup the girl most of the time isn't comfortable enough. She has a tendency out of principle not to get real physical the first time. It depends on what she wants though. Ons can happen anytime.
/r/seduction10/11/17 03:28 PM
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Well not quickly just at the right time. But it can be the same day you meet if everything is good. When depends on hundreds of factors. Just learn to read when :) Depends on what you want too. Some girls will be ready for a ons. And especially with onses it is a spure of the moment thing.
/r/seduction10/11/17 02:37 PM
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Well I think you are afraid of the other person. Judgement, your own anxieties and self image. Just remember this simple truth: They feel the exact same way you do. I have put women on a pedestal. But I found out they are more scared of me then I am of them.
/r/seduction10/11/17 02:34 PM
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Yeah that window is weird. I think they get a sense of disappointment if you don't escalate. And after think: why bother this guy won't act on his desires.
/r/seduction10/11/17 02:30 PM
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Sounds to me that you are very dissapointed and feel numb. And your taking it out on others.
/r/seduction09/11/17 11:18 PM
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Why do you want sex with her?
/r/seduction09/11/17 06:36 AM
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It really depends on where she posted them. It all depends on what you think of nudity. I think it isn't a big deal. Just ask yourself. What does it say when a women posts nude pictures of herself?
/r/seduction09/11/17 06:35 AM
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It could be you reconnect and will be together the rest of your life. But most of the time chasing exes is a big waste of time and energy. They broke up with you for a reason. And a good one most of the time. Even if you did reconnect how stable will that be? You have far better chances starting something new with somebody else.
/r/seduction09/11/17 06:26 AM
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This whole "just one girl for me" bussiness is a big waste of time. Try to make a move and move on if it doesn't work. The sooner you learn not to waste time on one person the sooner you will grow up and have fun.
/r/seduction09/11/17 06:23 AM
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You take rejection to personal and that is why it drains your soul.
/r/seduction09/11/17 06:19 AM
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It might be she felt that way. But it comes from wanting to spend time on other things/people that make her more happy.
/r/seduction09/11/17 06:15 AM
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Me too. How does that work for you?
/r/seduction02/11/17 10:12 AM
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I engaged them. But still learning that. I just told them I liked them in a ballsy no blinking confident way. I was trying to get some touchy. I flirt nut not going for sex or kissing straigt away if I don't get a vibe. Well it is weird they suddenly don't like me without nothing changing.
/r/seduction31/10/17 06:33 PM
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So true! Although sometimes you get a return on your investment. Unfortunately a lot of girl want that investment. At least three dates and three weeks is a lot of women go by
/r/seduction31/10/17 06:30 PM

Hmmm alright. I try to improve. Getting some results. I am just trying to figure out I had bad luck or I have to reflect about last week. Two girls were interested in a second date and both made suggestions. One cancels on me the same day. Other one ghosts me. And I am thinking what did I do wrong? I didn't initiate any texting. They wanted to text. But I don't think it helps game. So I replyed but it took half a day. Also because I don't have the time to be on my phone all the time. I am not so…
/r/seduction31/10/17 05:49 PM
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Sure. But still I know a guy who goes on first dates. And only one in ten times they get a second date. And I know guy who always gets a second date. The first guy is a strict believer in "numbers game" the second guy not so much. I am interested to know. If this is something more people encounter.
/r/seduction31/10/17 05:38 PM
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that seems fair
/r/seduction31/10/17 01:57 PM
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90% So I shouldn't feel bad if I don't get a second date with two girls in the same week?
/r/seduction31/10/17 01:39 PM

Really? Are we talking hook up same day or no second date kind of rejection btw?
/r/seduction31/10/17 01:38 PM
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Why?
/r/seduction31/10/17 12:54 PM

You mean even the best seducer gets rejected half of the time?
/r/seduction31/10/17 12:10 PM
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Big part that is missing is that if you emotionally invest in someone. You have scarcity. Because there is only one girl you invest in. You don't lose one opportunity on one girl in thousands in your area you lose an investment.
/r/seduction31/10/17 10:56 AM
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