The numbers game myth

NunoHimself · 2017-10-31T13:49:30+00:00

It's a numbers game. Instructors get rejected too. The skill you gain only has a small impact on the girl. You can't pull every girl you approach, it's impossible. Even if you do everything right, there are other factors, such as the environment. You're a random guy she just met, even if you're perfect she prefers dancing and being with friends. Tyler has 15 years of experience. He gets rejected like 10 times for every girl he pulls.

essexaspie · 2017-10-31T13:36:34+00:00

Those who are full on mysterymethod guys believe that you should be able to get 100% of the girls that you approach! If you fail, you've done something wrong, basically.

Obviously bollox, but lots of them believe that.

Fact is, I think that unless you meet her threshold of 'attractive' before you've even opened your mouth, you're in for a rough ride and will likely never get them girls.

I get rejected almost non stop, but I still get laid occasionally, and it's not as though I do anything different on the occasions where I get laid. She simply thought I was OK looking, and I didn't completely fuck it up

rmbarnes · 2017-10-31T13:19:40+00:00

There's always a huge element of chance. Most girls won't be interested in most guys most of the time. A blogger called good looking loser had a term for this. He said a girl has to be sexually available when you approach her. Better seducers will just get a higher % of girls who are sexually available, and will be good at avoiding pitfalls that would derail an otherwise promising set.

DocDaygame · 2017-10-31T12:09:36+00:00

Both! The numbers game for the best seducer is just to make 2 to get 1.

seduction3234 · 2017-10-31T14:50:43+00:00

Life is a numbers game because numbers are just representation of life. Sure each individual encounter is a seperate event where your actions matter, but yeah obviously there is nothing that guarantees success.

In the grand scheme of things each encounter has a certain chance of success, The more encounters you have in theory the better at it you get so it can be said you rate of success is in a sense a function of the number of times you approach. If you integrate that over the number encounters than that would be you expected number of successes over a period of time.

Modifiers like looks and status how and where you meet and logistics can also be quantified as changing your chance of a favorable encounter. If the best person in the world does not have even 1 encounter than they have zero chance of success. no body can guarantee anything its just if you have a high chance of success and large enough number of times your likely hood of striking out is just low becomes low.

Its a numbers game for everyone they just do not realize it.

DirkDieGurke · 2017-10-31T14:53:19+00:00

It's a numbers game, but your method can improve the ratio. Obviously cold approach has a lower success rate, because you don't know if there is interest. Indirect game has a higher success rate, because you wait for strong IOI, when you make your move.

My point, is to improve your RATIO by choosing the best method for you.

Me personally, I just got into this after divorcing a cheating spouse. I suck at cold approach, but in my life experience, girls gave me IOI first so in a way I was good at indirect game. I have only had a handful of relationships.

Now, I definitely want to improve my direct game because I want to take control of when and if it happens. So far 50/50 this year which means 1 girl "had a boyfriend" and the other girl was into me, but she was weird so it ended pretty quick.

letsgetrandy · 2017-10-31T16:23:11+00:00

There's always going to be some element of a numbers game, in that you're not the type for everyone — even Brad Pitt isn't every girl's type, and then not every girl is single or looking, and she may even be going through something in life where you may be someone to whom she'd otherwise be attracted but at the moment she's battling cancer or busy caring for a sick family member and just isn't in the mood to date.

However, there's also always going to be a skill factor, because even the best looking guy can completely fuck up his game, whereas a far more average-looking guy with great game might still have a shot.

The biggest fallacy is to think it would ever be only one or the other.

Socialinception · 2017-10-31T12:48:54+00:00

Extremely misleading title.

ImJustSo · 2017-10-31T16:50:41+00:00

If "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take", then it's a numbers game the moment you take one shot.

You may fail, you may succeed, but for every shot you've joined the numbers game.

It's not a bad game, since you pick the rules, when to start, when to finish, etc. It's all up to you how you want to play and measure success.

Title	The numbers game myth
Author	weallwantsomethink
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Comments	24
Date	October 31, 2017 12:02 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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