Is this a joke?!

Demonspawn · 2012-03-01T17:49:04+00:00

It is a "joke" in that the vasectomy-regulation bill was a farce.

It's very much true that our government thinks men's "choice" to either have sex or not have sex is valid as "equal choice" to women's options.

typhonblue · 2012-03-01T19:55:55+00:00

"The freedom and reproductive rights men have with relation to vasectomies is a GOOD thing. That freedom shouldn't be removed from men, instead women should also be given that freedom."

Is there a bill somewhere being proposed to outlaw tubal ligations?

So if women had access to tubal ligations(that they have to pay for) and condoms (that they have to pay for), that would be an advancement in reproductive rights for women?

Nerdloc · 2012-03-01T20:17:09+00:00

I'm sick and tired of seeing this horseplay go on. First there was that bill that would require men to have rectal exams if they wanted to use Viagra, and now there's this load of shit. If she doesn't expect to get this passed, why even introduce it in the first place? She's wasting people's time and taxpayers' money by doing this, and she's clearly deluded if she thinks abortion is anything close to a vasectomy.

My fear is that some quack is going to end up getting something like this passed one of these days, and then look at the state we'll be in... Abuse of power, plain and simple.

anecdotal · 2012-03-01T16:52:43+00:00

"It is patently unfair that the men can avoid the rewards (?) of unwanted fatherhood by presuming that their judgment over such matters is more valid than the General Assembly." What the fuck...

Edit: Ok so it is satire. A little more heartening...

SuperCoupe · 2012-03-01T16:54:20+00:00

It is a direct response to the bills passing the legislature stripping away Women's health choices.

So...it is satire in a way.

She expects it to get voted down, and hopefully take the other bills with them.

JockeVXO · 2012-03-01T21:23:53+00:00

Men already having no reproductive rights while women do is apparently not enough...

DarthOvious · 2012-03-01T20:30:06+00:00

Yeah, I know, this is ridiculous. She is stupid enough to think that a Vasectomy compares with an abortion.

What next, is she going to propose that masturbation be made illegal because all the innocent sperm will die as a result.

2012-03-02T00:39:56+00:00

Chill out. It's satire. I'm sure she understands that a vasectomy is in no way equal to the options women have. She just used it for the sake of making a point: how absurd it is that the government is trying to control women's reproductive rights. I don't think it was her intent to even imply that vasectomies are equal to female birth control options.

picopallasi · 2012-03-02T09:15:07+00:00

Nanny statism at its finest.

Willyjwade · 2012-03-01T22:25:41+00:00

I'm not sure why this is here I think she has a point. Or is that why this is here.

Lecks · 2012-03-01T22:22:05+00:00

It's not a very good joke.

2012-03-02T11:05:16+00:00

I think this is really just utterly pathetic and childish. I realise it's a "joke" or satire, but it's terribly stupid.

Abortion is not contraception, and the two are not really the same thing (contraception means to prevent conception, but abortion takes place after conception - when pro lifers believe "life" actually begins). "Men" are not universally opposed to abortion, and I'm pretty sure I heard that more women are opposed to abortion than men. Women have many more options for contraception than men, and men have absolutely no choices that are in any way equivalent to abortion. It's just utterly stupid. I don't understand why these idiots have to make this about men's rights vs. women's rights at all, but it's absolutely disingenuous and just shows how immature and unintelligent they are.

I doubt they actually think that being pro-life means "hating and trying to control women" - from what I understand it's not about the woman, it's about the child's rights - but they use these very dishonest tactics to score points with people who haven't quite decided what they think. Pro-lifers are anti-abortion because they genuinely believe the child is a human being, that abortion is equivalent to murder, and that inconveniencing a woman who made a conscious choice to have sex is in no way a good reason to murder a child. I'm not saying I agree with them, but so many pro-choicers I see are just absolutely obnoxious, immature, even more self-righteous than many pro-lifers, and use fallacious reasoning to inspire support.

Pro choice is a complete misnomer anyway, because most are pro women's choice and don't believe in choices for men: men have to live up to their responsibilities! Imagine the vitriol you would receive from those same people for using that argument with a woman who wants an abortion.

Title	Is this a joke?!
Author	ScottMcPay
Upvotes	18
Comments	24
Date	March 1, 2012 4:32 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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