We tell boys not to cry, then wonder about male suicide: In courageously speaking of his depression, ex-footballer Dean Windass has helped to highlight a crisis in men's mental health

LesMisIsRelevant · 2012-01-19T09:45:29+00:00

I definitely notice this. Many guys, myself included, internalize their frustrations because it seems like the normal thing to do, and so it is incredibly difficult to solve rather than suppress your emotional problems.

It doesn't seem healthy at all.

2012-01-20T00:57:18+00:00

Unfortunately, my solution to this is to not take too things seriously so when something does hurt me, I can shrug it off with ease. That and escape into programming and reddit.

It's not healthy, and one day I feel I'm going to break.

As a camp instructor, I work with kids on a semi-regular basis. I make a point to tell them (male and female) that it's fine to express themselves and not to "bottle their feelings up". It's a small victory since some of the other instructors support the "men don't cry" shit, as does most of society.

I'd be lying if I said suicide never crossed my mind (because seeking help would be expressing emotion and appearing weak). Thanks schoolyard bullies who made me feel like shit just because I was smarter than they would ever be!

If you made it this far, thanks for reading my little vent. Typing this made a little difference :)

Hamakua · 2012-01-19T08:56:08+00:00

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fondueguy · 2012-01-19T07:45:44+00:00

recognise that in speaking up and seekinghelp hedid something more courageous, more important and, perhaps, more truly manly than anything in his distinguished career on the pitch.

KeenDreams · 2012-01-19T13:34:17+00:00

Thats why my friends and I drink. And occasionally have nervous breakdowns.

2012-01-19T21:32:37+00:00

Good book about male depression

C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-01-19T10:19:45+00:00

Honest question, I know the rates of male suicide are substantially higher than female suicide, is there any innate biological reason for this to be the case?

I find it hard to believe that the vast majority of suicides could be male without some higher propensity toward suicide. The only thing I can think of is reference to women's suicide attempts being less violent, and thus less likely to succeed.

millertime73 · 2012-01-19T13:44:16+00:00

What I love is how feminists for thirty years have told men that they need to show their emotions and be unafraid to cry. Then, the second a John Boehner or Newt Gingrich does, the same feminists are the first ones to scream "Haha! Pussy! Fag! Mangina! Look! Look!". It's one of the easiest examples of how full of shit and utterly disingenuous feminists are.

C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-01-19T05:59:53+00:00

The suicide (or attempt) of a successful footballer, has little connection to that of an ordinary or poor man. Also not all men are 'be tough or die', to assume all men are so is to call those who aren't non men.

Kis arent just told to be tough, the weak get clobbered. Playground have violence we do nothing about, and as an adult male if you are attacked, there is little chance of action to address it. (In England sentences are a sham if anything).

Title	We tell boys not to cry, then wonder about male suicide: In courageously speaking of his depression, ex-footballer Dean Windass has helped to highlight a crisis in men's mental health
Author	omegaflux
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Date	January 19, 2012 4:56 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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