Depressed Army reservist who wrongly called National Suicide Hotline for help, says dozens of police responded by surrounding his home and arresting him, vandalizing and searching his place without a warrant, seizing his dog and killing his tropical fish (xpost from r/politics)

omegaflux · 2012-02-07T15:07:11+00:00

This isn't the first time a guy has been screwed over after police responded to supposedly help. There is a pattern of men who needed help being treated like criminals by the police. Just think of the predominate aggressor rule the police follow where the only possible outcomes is for the man to be the abuser, never the victim.

What Happens When You Call the Cops to “Help” a Man

Mom called 911 because son seems depressed over divorce, he's now doing 7 years after cops searched his car and found a firearms legally possessed but the judge withheld key aspects in trial.

Brian Aitken's Mistake: A New Jersey man gets seven years for being a responsible gun owner.

Aavagadrro · 2012-02-08T00:04:41+00:00

There is a different hotline for us veterans, they wont call the police and tell them we are barricading ourselves in the house with guns. They know that almost all of us have guns, and they do a wonderful job of helping us get through rough patches.

The last one I had was back in 10, and the mother in law called the state police and they came and talked to me. Two separate occasions and they didnt do anything like what happened to this guy. It really makes me less apprehensive about the police in my area. There is a large population of veterans here, most of us have been to the desert or Vietnam, and they know how to approach us and set us at ease. They also know we arent a threat to anyone but ourselves most of the time.

What they did to this guy is reprehensible. You cant rescind the 2nd amendment rights simply because someone is a veteran dealing with depression. If that were the case then there would be a shitload of guys with PTSD, major depression, and other anxiety issues from too many trips to the desert being locked up or not allowed to own guns.

This guy didnt even have them out, they were locked up, put away, and not in easy reach. That is atypical of someone with PTSD. I have two pistols in the drawer where I am sitting right now, a SPAS12 next to my bed, an AR15 behind the front door, and an SKS ready to go in a closet. There is an alarm that tells me when someone pulls in, and I have three dogs that alert me to people being here. That is typical of a veteran with PTSD and hypervigilance.

It is a mens rights thing, since women veterans with weapons are not treated the same way, PTSD or not. I am lucky to have local police who are veterans, or are acutely aware of dealing with us in a safe and respectful manner.

DocBrown1984 · 2012-02-07T19:14:46+00:00

Am I the only one who thought that this blog really shouldn't have picked this picture to be the visual aid for this article? Feel the room guys.

TheRealPariah · 2012-02-07T19:46:36+00:00

Don't call the police on a family member.

2012-02-07T21:02:54+00:00

When I clicked the comments I was surprised I wasn't in /r/circlejerk. It is that bad.

twokidsinamansuit · 2012-02-07T15:09:01+00:00

This is totally WTF and a complete injustice, but how is this specifically a men's rights issue?

Just wondering in case there is some other context to this situation I don't know about, I'm not too knowledgable on veterans issues/rights.

lockedge · 2012-02-07T21:18:51+00:00

This is outrageous! I hope the guy gets what is due to him.

Did he get his dog back? It was taken to the shelter, but they don't say he got his dog returned to him. :( The poor fishes too

And people wonder why I don't trust cops. Goddamn.

exno · 2012-02-07T22:50:39+00:00

Kevin Kline was seen in the vicinity. Officers noted his breath smelled suspiciously of fish.

mugsnj · 2012-02-07T15:25:17+00:00

Courthouse News Service is not exactly a reliable source of information. They only present one side of the story. They might as well just post press releases for lawyers.

NotADamsel · 2012-02-07T19:41:10+00:00

POLICE IN THE U.S. ARE OUT OF CONTROL.

This is a major problem and it will only get worse.

Save up money, and get out of the U.S. It is quickly becoming a police state.

Umbra29 · 2012-02-07T18:19:39+00:00

Not really a "men's rights" issue so much as a human rights issue...

TrollinAtSchool · 2012-02-08T00:45:03+00:00

I wish this case walked into my door. If everything alleged in the complaint is fully factual, seems like he's gonna be rich soon.

luciansolaris · 2012-02-08T02:18:04+00:00

They're lucky he's seeking $500,000. I would have seeked at least $2 billion, the amount the federal government spends each day...

joshychrist · 2012-02-08T01:12:02+00:00

So I'm ex army guard, and a Veteran. Is this telling me never to call a hotline?

Hypersapien · 2012-02-07T15:01:53+00:00

This is horrible, but just because the victim of a crime is male, that doesn't mean that it belongs in this subreddit. Please resubmit to r/WTF.

2012-02-08T02:50:12+00:00

Yes, in the US if you call a hotline they will come in force, possibly even SWAT and treat you like a criminal.

They have been instructed that you are a dangerous male monkey with guns trained at them and you are as dangerous as any rabid dog or AlQuida terrorist.

That's the kind of depression service men recieve.....I've seen it myself.

NiceGuysSTFU · 2012-02-07T19:46:48+00:00

This is very sad. Do you have a link that is not from courthousenews.com, however?

johnny_gunn · 2012-02-08T01:05:41+00:00

What the absolute tits does this have to do with men's rights.

His getting fucked over has nothing to do with him being male.

bombtrack411 · 2012-02-07T23:54:10+00:00

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