I found this Twitter thread about how trans men are treated in the LGBT community interesting

Demiansky · 2020-08-14T11:28:19+00:00

By the way, there is a significant rift in feminist circles over this question. One side is accepting of trans people, the other is resentful. The reasons are interesting. Some of the older guard feminists have built this kind of fiefdom around femaleness, and they feel like trans women are a Trojan horse for men to sneak into and pollute their territory. Go ahead and Google the controversy over J.K. Rawling for a good example of how that civil war is playing out.

hypercube885 · 2020-08-14T06:25:10+00:00

Another thread linked to from this one is here.

I found this thread interesting because it goes to show how socially acceptable misandry will inevitably harm other marginalized groups of people. TERFs are already examples of how it harms trans women, and this thread shows how it harms trans men as well.

LacklustreFriend · 2020-08-14T17:43:36+00:00

The problem with this thread is how the OP still continues to use men as a scapegoat. The OP isn't interested in how misandry generally is rampant in the LGBT community, they're only concerned with transmisandry and seem to be more than willing to throw (cis)men under a metaphorical bus. They fail to see how the hatred for trans-men and cis-men are ultimately from the same place, instead more concerned with navigating what their personal identity is up the oppression ladder.

I also think it's ironic when it's contrasted with the 'transmen are men/transwomen are women' rhetoric. Transmen are men... except when it's convenient to identify them as a distinct group for social currency.

Threwaway42 · 2020-08-14T18:36:28+00:00

I saw a thread just like this too where it was celebrating gay male relationships and everyone was being sexist and grossed out by two men kissing even other LGBT people :(

_scheme · 2020-08-14T18:41:37+00:00

I hate seeing how trans men are treated. Thanks for sharing this. I know there are some trans men who contribute here and I think their voices are important. I think trans men seem to be an inconvenience to the current radical feminist dogma and associated LGBTQ+ movement, since it would seem to imply that some part of gender identity is not chosen and not acculturated. Who would choose to go through all of the pain and expense of becoming a trans man, if you accept that masculinity is the devil?

It's unfortunate that I see trans men voices are the most accepted here (versus other places), in a way, because they have very unique perspectives that can add to the discussion, but here is nearly as far as you can get from widely acceptable social discourse on these topics. I hope this will change and more people will be willing to listen to them soon.

Benjamin Boyce on youtube has some interesting videos where he interviews trans (and de-transitioned) people for anyone interested: Scott Newgent, Buck Angel, helena.

acthrowawayab · 2020-08-15T15:41:01+00:00

As a trans male I can say the majority of my brethren will gladly roll over and take it. Many do it even before being told to. Misandry is a massive problem in trans communities and the vast majority of trans boys and men have deeply internalised it. Ever since the advent of tumblr it's become almost normal for trans boys to identify as some sort of nonbinary for a while because their friends and/or communities they frequent routinely bash men. They are literally afraid of being hated by the people they rely on for support just for being male, or of becoming an objectively terrible, violent and oppressive person by transitioning. If you take a moment to consider how debilitating gender dysphoria can be, this fear must run very deep.

MMDT · 2020-08-14T15:25:13+00:00

live in woke circles, die in woke circles

VirileMember · 2020-08-14T19:50:18+00:00

I find it incredibly disingenuous to claim that this is how "the LGBT community" (including other trans people and gay men) treats trans men. As if literally everyone in it is a TERF. Come on.

Title	I found this Twitter thread about how trans men are treated in the LGBT community interesting
Author	hypercube885
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Date	August 14, 2020 6:14 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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