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If you could rid the world of the qualities in men that turn them into incels, would you?

ahandtoyourdarknessx · 2022-01-01T20:00:08+00:00

I'm trying to make this a poll but it won't allow me. Imagine it women, an incel free world. Would you get rid of all the men who would potentially...

ahandtoyourdarknessx

January 1, 2022

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Title	If you could rid the world of the qualities in men that turn them into incels, would you?
Author	ahandtoyourdarknessx
Upvotes	5
Comments	63
Date	January 1, 2022 8:00 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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The hilarious thing is women actually suggesting that the men who are very sexually successful with women are able to do so because they're respectful of women.

Do you honestly think your typical guy who has slept with 100+ women is not misogynistic? These guys who are able to sleep with a new woman every weekend through whatever means - nightclubs, tinder, Instagram, social circle are able to do so because they're high in empathy?

Do me a favour. Surely these guys are pumping and dumping all the time because they're misogynists, no?

So if we accept that the men who are the most sexually successful are misogynists, then that cannot be the reason incels are incels. Misogyny is irrelevant in causing rejections if we accept the guys who are out there getting laid whenever they want do not respect women.

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[–]Brilliant-Hornet1916 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying that, feminists are.

The reason men who pump and dump are labelled misogynists is because they're presumably treating women as disposable, view women as only good for sex and then you move on to the next one, only good for a couple of bangs before you ghost them, and potentially using deceit in regards to their intentions in order to get women into bed. Does this profile of man strike you as someone who respects women? Do you think the college football player who is telling the guys in the locker room about his latest sex adventures is respectful of women?

The hyper sexually successful men are not successful because they respect women. Women aren't gifting him sex on a plate because they think "oh my god he respects me so much, the way he asks me to come round to his place on snapchat at 11pm is so respectful".

They're getting laid because they're physically attractive and have high social value. Their attitude towards women clearly doesn't come into it.

The online incel community is full of misogyny because they're bitter that they have no romantic success. They've not been rejected because of their attitude towards women, their attitude has developed because of the rejections. These guys have low social value and low levels of physical attractiveness.

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Something on a related note I have been meaning to bring up. I am convinced, as through my own observation and experience, part of this "lonely bitter entitled incel guy thing" has more to it than just misogyny and mental health issues.

I am pretty certain a large part of this is social environment and influences. What do I mean?

I live in an area, and I am going to realistically assume this is a common outlook or experience for most people, were the social coda/towing the line thing is myob/live and let live/don't let it bother you etc. Yes, there is definitely a lot to be said for turning the cheek and not letting stuff get to you or under your skin etc. But we all know with most people that's total bullshit. Where am I going with this? Well here we go.

There is this, as I can best put it, neo puritanical like knee jerk reaction thing people do. By that mean, all this talk of myob or live and let live is a farce.

I can't tell you the number of people I've seen get so worked up and bent out of shape out of whatever dumb or petty little thing someone else is doing. The most best example is let's say there's a neighbor, they decide to paint the house an off beat color, perhaps your older relative lives in that neighborhood and they can't stop going on and on about how mary o'malley painted her house pea soup green, or susy sullivan shops at the local food mart instead of the big box supermarket, or maybe a friend of your dads uses a certain spark plug for his car instead of the one he thinks is right, catch my drift?

Or my own experience, this is one of many, I'm coming back from a vacation to Florida, I am still on like cloud nine vacation mode, I'm walking through the airport, now my carry on bag was a little larger than what is allowed, I forgot, I'm walking through the terminal, and just this idiot loud mouth local starts pissing and moaning I have a bigger bag than her, why can't she etc? I shit you not this happened. Part of me had that little twinge where I wanted to tell her to shut the fuck up and shove it, but I was in such a mellowed out mood. My point is, why should she fucking care about my bag?

How does this relate to lonely bitter incel guy thing? Well, again, they're told about fairness,equality,respect etc. you will meet someone etc,myob, then they find the opposite is happening and realize the contradiction happening.

My point is, I am convinced this stuff is mostly social environment influenced. So maybe a key step in helping to if not stop it at least calm it down is telling those people like the lady at the airport to just shut the fuck up for once, let it balance it out.

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