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A female police officer has been dismissed after she vexatiously complained about her colleague, a man who she was in a relationship with, after denying their relationship when he sent her a sexually explicit video

Kagedeah

January 27, 2022
147 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/humberside-police-officer-who-reported-6552953
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Title A female police officer has been dismissed after she vexatiously complained about her colleague, a man who she was in a relationship with, after denying their relationship when he sent her a sexually explicit video
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Kagedeah

Upvotes 147
Comments 21
Date January 27, 2022 1:15 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/sdy5t7/a_female_police_officer_has_been_dismissed_after/
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Comments

[–]rahsoft 63 points64 points65 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

interestingly enough its the feminists who objected to the police obtaining text messages in relation to accusations relating to a sexual matter.

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Femininism: destroying due process and fair justice day by day...

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think a lot of people are uncomfortable with the idea of police taking the phones of someone and going through them because they reported a crime.

If 16 year old boys being molested by their teacher knew their phones would be confiscated and searched, they may be less likely to report their victimization. That's a rough violation of privacy that many would find embarrassing.

[–]Psycedilla 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

if your more uncomfortable about your cringey messages than getting justice, you got bigger problems than this.

[–]Huffers1010 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Again, u/EnvironmentalWar4627 has at least something of a point here; it's a difficult issue because phones genuinely are likely to contain relevant information, but they're also likely to contain vast amounts of irrelevant information that's massively personal to the owner.

The fact that this is a tricky one to solve doesn't make it an invalid point.

[–]KD_Ram 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If they (the investigators) are competent, they would determine relevancy by looking at and cross referencing the metadata.

to use your example...
they would look at the date/time information, location data (GPS and/or cell tower IDs) phone number/sign-up address, IP address of both the accuser and the accused's devices/online accounts. if the location data of the phones were 100km (as an example) apart on any given day then not relevant. but if the cell towers picked them up 5m away when a picture is taken, it may be relevant to look at.

and with metadata need no warrant to take a look at that. they need a warrant to look at the actual message/image/video etc, etc, etc.

you should be more worried about who is doing the data/metadata analyst.

[–]sgt_oddball_17 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And I'm sure she was already a sergeant after only 3 years because she was qualified . . . /s

[–]63daddy 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One would think that as an officer herself she would know that lying to authorities and giving a false statement can have consequences.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In my career, I've been directly involved in 3 different harassment complaints, not directed at me but close enough that I was an insider.

First: a guy who worked for me was dating a coworker. Her fiance (big surprise to my guy) found an explicit text message and she was suddenly filling a complaint for sexual harassment. Problem was their relationship was well documented.

Second: a woman who had a huge anger management problem had a full rage meltdown when her boss told her she couldn't treat people the way she did. She said and I quote "fuck you, I quit!" And stormed out. Whole office heard it. She called HR from the parking lot and said "I couldn't take the harassment any more".

Third: married couple worked in the same department, they had a bad breakup. She thought the number of complaints she filed against him both at work and by police would help her divorce position. She ended up being fired for harassing him.

Of the only three incidents I know the absolute facts of, all of them were maliciously false. So yeah, when I hear complaints that I don't know anything about, my initial reaction is doubt. Because that's been my experience.

[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aaaand that is why one should never fuck/date coworkers. Or be friends woth women from work, for that matter. Drama is just a single worthless feeling of hers away.

[–]CrownlessRegent 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I shudder imagining the media trial, the guy would have faced, if the message wasn't discovered and he was found guilty in the investigation. The world would have discovered another "queen" who needs to be crowned and funded ASAP.

[–]Mother-Key582 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Remember that YouTuber bitch from Ireland who demanded this hotel give her a free room in exchange for “publicity?” And the owner just flat out and politely told her NO? 🤣 I know it’s not exactly the same thing but of course she still played the victim card and tried giving the hotel a bad review. 🙄 I’m so happy people called her out on that and told her to fuck off, and praised the owner of the hotel.

[–]crippledhermit 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, don't that suck.

[–]Spikeymikey5050 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Love that the accused is anonymous

[–]ignatztempotypo 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo. Equality. Smile for the camera!

[–]UnconventionalXY -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As I read the article, it seems to imply that Ms. Spayne and Officer G were in a relationship for a few months until she was dumped by Officer G, but he then sent her an explicit video and she complained, but she lied about the relationship.

It's not clear the timing, but isn't sending an unsolicited explicit video considered a basis for harassment and so Ms. Spayne might have a case if they were no longer together when she received the unsolicited video? In that situation, why would lying about a prior relationship have any relevance to the case itself? Lying itself is obviously a serious offense in the police service, but it seems to overshadow the case itself and normally sexual history is not pertinent to current misconduct.

I'm just curious about the standing of harassment charges when explicit videos are provided unsolicited and whether a case depends on the relationship status between the participants at the time, considering relationship status doesn't preclude harassment, rape, assault, abuse, etc normally.

Not that I believe an unsolicited explicit video is harassment, regardless of relationship status, since future receipt can be blocked: it's merely an inconvenience like being asked for consent for sex the first time by someone new we are not interested in; we understand that biology motivates people to pursue sex, so its an expected part of life. It's only harassment if it persists after a rejection. However, the trending view of women seems to be that even the first approach is harassment if they are not interested, or that men in general are guilty of harassment because they keep pursuing sex collectively when a woman is not interested (ie one man after another).

[–]Fasahat11 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

donkey of the day

[–]greyman0425 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't shit where you eat.

Don't stick you d1ck in crazy. Vet vet vet before having sex. That 3 date minimum rules is there to save your a$$ too.

[–]Mother-Key582 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Tell that to the insanely desperate men who would fuck literally anything that resembles a vagina and/or has a pulse 🤦‍♂️

[–]greyman0425 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If those guys are that dumb, let Darwin handle it.

Mean while keep your nose clean. Give the crazies no ammo to use against you personally. Make them lie and or use proxies crimes when they try to make you guilty by association.

Out of sight out of mind. Lies work best when they are big but also have a kernel of truth to them. Big lies fall apart when you look at the details. Sure there will be damage but it will be limited. Then you can strike back and inflict a cost.

Out of sight out if mind. Harder to hit what you can't see.

Don't give the crazies ammo. Keep your distance. Take the most insane feminazi definition of rape, assault and operate like its the law of the land. They are not entitled to sex either, lol.

Vet carefully.

[–]c4ptnh00k 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TIL what vexatiously means...

[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just dismissed? Shame.

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