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Men's mental health support group gets NHS funding

Kagedeah

March 27, 2022
972 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-60864124
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Title Men's mental health support group gets NHS funding
Author

Kagedeah

Upvotes 972
Comments 38
Date March 27, 2022 1:24 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/tpjuzc/mens_mental_health_support_group_gets_nhs_funding/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/mens-mental-health-support-group-gets-nhs-funding.1110016
https://theredarchive.com/post/1110016
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Comments

[–]gnuban 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great! That's a breakthrough.

[–]BrickDaddyShark 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lets fucking goooooooooooo

[–]ExMuzzy 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For some reason this reminded me about bus stops in London frequently having billboards mentioning how men making up most of suicide deaths or how men also face abuse. I maybe saw them 6-7 years ago and they were around for quite a while but then suddenly disappeared. I wonder if anyone else here remembers seeing them?

[–]AdlJamie 94 points95 points96 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Is it just me or does £4,000 seem like a pittance compared to what a womens support service would typically get?

[–]Auserna 78 points79 points80 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

From what I can tell this group meet up in public places, don't have a building to maintain or bills to pay, so that £4,000 will help quite a lot. Likely spent on travel for the men that can't afford it as well as their teas and such. It really could be more though..

[–]oldmach 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

4k quid is a joke. That kind of pittance can easily be gone within 2 weeks. It's a bullshit sum and I for one am not celebrating this nonsense. It's a slap in the face.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

IMO that's a bit pessimistic, its a start to see if its useful, it may then be increased

[–]Auserna 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

For this group 4k is fine and they can still get more in future, its possible this group could even run fine without funding like they seem to have been. What's needed is something more extreme, a program with workshops, it's own grounds and proper resources plus paid staff who have experience with the main goals being to help men of all ages, as well as research and experiment with different methods that best help men.

[–]oldmach 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What's needed is something more extreme, a program with workshops, it's own grounds and proper resources plus paid staff who have experience with the main goals being to help men of all ages, as well as research and experiment with different methods that best help men.

Exactly, now how is anyone supposed to achieve that with 4k? The truth is, whoever gave them that money doesn't want them to grow. They want them to stay tiny and more or less irrelevant, while dozens of women's organisations receive literal millions in public funding. Again, I'm not celebrating any of this bullshit, it's insulting. Like throwing a starving dog a bone. Of course the dog is gonna be happy for 3 minutes and it seems like a nice gesture, but it really isn't when we all know that bones aren't nutritious at all, and that there might not be a next one.

[–]Auserna 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, i'm with you. When I first saw it I was pretty pissed off seeing only 4k get celebrated over, men are taking their own lives here and here this place is celebrating over 4k for one small group like it's a huge step. I've been lurking here long enough to see men's groups/shelters/programs pop up and rightfully be celebrated only to never hear of them again or for them to just be shut down. Something needs to change.. I don't know how that change would be brought about but it needs to happen if any real steps are going to be made and kept so that another step forward can be made... I'm tired of the one step forward and one step back routine.

[–]oldmach 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only way to achieve anything for men is a super rich guy donating millions. Governments don't care. Non profits don't care. Feminist organisations absolutely don't care. We need an Elon musk type to fund men's organisations for a few years just to stay afloat, and then maybe governments will join in and take it seriously.

[–]Savixe 113 points114 points115 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Radical Feminists lobbying and protesting to pull its funding in 3... 2... 1...

[–]KMS__Scharnhorst 60 points61 points62 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

it'll happen trust me they'll make claims like it's supporting abusers and rapists just watch

[–]mouldysandals 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

‘this is LITERALLY GENOCIDE’

[–]antifeminist3 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It may have something to do with feminists. But usually, feminists say 'men's problems are caused by men not coming forward'. In other words, blame the men. "We need to teach men that they are the problem".

That's what I hear whenever a feminist talks about men's mental health.

[–]YesAmAThrowaway 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Regular feminists" that are only unterested in the topic for outrage, npg because they actually follow "regular" feminism, joining them in droves in 1...

[–]Azurmuth 51 points52 points53 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Wonder when the feminists will protest.

[–]willbeonekenobi 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably about 15 seconds before payment has been authorised.

[–]ExMuzzy 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminists will probably claim credit for progressing men's mental health support if any good comes out of this in future

[–]Azurmuth 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Definitely

[–]TitanicPat 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was going to wonder how much feminist ideology the support group pushes on the men that come to them. But if that were the case, they'd be getting a damn sight more than 4 measly thousand quid.

[–]JustSomeYukoner 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

4K is a pittance, but it’s a start. Once the powers that be see the good this does, there will be more money put towards this. We have to start small, and crawl before we can run.

[–]Dirk_94 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Am i dreaming...?

[–]Optimal_Wendigo_4333 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Question to the men in UK: With the insane anti men posturing that's usual in the UK, like calls for curfew for men, why are men on that island still considering dating and marrying?

The government will take all your money and have you homeless before you can say gender discrimination!

[–]shadowfacex 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some of us aren’t as brain dead or brainwashed as others, and we’re actively educating men on the risks associated with being an easy pray, due to how the game is rigged in women’s favour.

Modern world doesn’t give a crap about us, and they only notice us when they need heavy lifting done. However that’s not a reason to go cynical. It’s a reason to fight back.

We won’t win this generation, but let’s ensure the next one is better prepared to battle this postmodernist sociological madness we live in.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not.

[–]Anthraxious 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Top comments are how "oh noes here comes the feminists!!" before anything has even happened and one person complaining about the miniscule amount cause "women get more" or whatever.

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At least 4th comment celebrates how it's a win and that's cool. I'm all for trying to make things more equal but both this sub and the feminine counterpart are only seen on r/all with bashing each other or "see the other sex is more privileged".

[–]xsplizzle 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You are right, we should be celebrating the scraps we get.

The disparity in mental health help is a major mens right issue, why wouldnt we comment on it ?

[–]Anthraxious 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As I said to someone else, it's not perfect by a long shot but when there's a W you take the W. At least not immediately bash on it? I'm from r/all so I don't lurk here but any time I've seen a thread from here it's always complaints and even now when there's actual change happening. Just thought it'd be nice to at least get some "oh nice" instead.

[–]killcat 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I hope your right, but they are reacting to the typical track record, look at the guy that tried to set up a shelter for battered men in the US, or the protests at talks on men's issues.

[–]Anthraxious 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying systems aren't unfair, they most def are. However when things do work out it's important to take a W and hope they can get better.

[–]rabel111 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The NHS has an annual budget of more than £136 billion (2019-20). The 4k funding of a home grown mental health group, with informal meetings of 15 or so men is no reason for celebration. It's an indictment of the lack of effective publically funded services in the UK for men to discuss their mental health issues. Pointing out the disparity between the 100s of millions spent on similar women's groups, is not being "negative", it's calling out the bigotry and misandry of NHS health services. If we do not call out these sexist bigots when they throw crumbs at men's issues, they will never seriously address men's mental health.

[–]Beckamabobby 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Britain… based??

[–]nevermock 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And gets defunded after feminist outrage and 3.. 2..

[+]mordin1428 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right as I quit this sub over incel infestation/women bashing/unproductive whining, it starts showing me the stuff I joined for in recommendations

[–]Man_of_culture_112 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nice

[–]Neppy_sama 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope they get support till the end

[–]Longjumping_Fly_2978 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My stance on this is neutral since the amount received is only 4k. Nor a loss nor a victory. Let's ser how It evolves over years.

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