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Woman who secretly poked holes in partner's condoms in bid to fall pregnant is given six-month jail term for 'stealthing' in Germany

furchfur

May 5, 2022
997 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10786669/German-woman-jailed-six-months-stealing-partners-sperm.html
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Title Woman who secretly poked holes in partner's condoms in bid to fall pregnant is given six-month jail term for 'stealthing' in Germany
Author

furchfur

Upvotes 997
Comments 54
Date May 5, 2022 7:15 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/uj4w54/woman_who_secretly_poked_holes_in_partners/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/woman-who-secretly-poked-holes-in-partners-condoms.1115400
https://theredarchive.com/post/1115400
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Comments

[–]furchfur[S] 226 points227 points228 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

From the article:

"Initially, the woman was facing charges of rape but this was later reduced to sexual assault". 

Sort of progress.

[–]VivaIlSesso 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did she still get pregnant, though? And how did she get caught?

[–]TheDwiin 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She failed, but bluffed and said she was pregnant even though she wasn't, and when he asked, she admitted to poking holes in her condoms that he used.

[–]duhhhh 138 points139 points140 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If only stopping the pill or removing an IUD without notifying your partner was a crime too.

[–]_Xuixien_ 96 points97 points98 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's her PRIVATE MEDICAL DECISION! Now pay up, pigs!

/s

[–]TheDwiin 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This might lead to those laws being put into place, as this case can be used as a precedent for such laws to be made.

However, I don't think this law would be created until male BC/implants gets made, and men started to be demonized and accused of stop taking it on purpose with the intent of getting girls pregnant.

[–]Sr_Nunes 144 points145 points146 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

So.. Six months? Wow.

Let me guess.. He must pay at least 18 years of child support.. Right?

(It's kind of a joke, but ... The kid is innocent at this, too. It's so fucked up!)

[–]Schatten101 120 points121 points122 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, she didn't get pregnant, she claimed to be pregnant in order to blackmail him. The guy saved her text and went to the police. Classic move fellow German.

[–]Sr_Nunes 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oooh, ok. Thank you for the clarification.

[–]eldred2 50 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

6 months suspended.

[–]matrixislife 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, I thought it said that earlier, but this article just says jailed.

[–]eldred2 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Deutsche Welt includes it.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 56 points57 points58 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Judge Salewski said 'stealing' normally involves men removing or sabotaging their condom during intercourse.

what exactly was the point of saying that? I'm don't even believe that's true. I think women sabotage birth control FAR more often than men do.

Imgine if a judge said "Women don't normally get raped..." everyone would be asking what the fuck that was about.

[–]Lionheart27778 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Its a start.

My ex wife did this...and went one step further when I caught her trying to inseminate herself with a condom she fished out of our bin.

I should have bailed then....but I was young and didnt know better.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

a good friend of mine had his wife do it to him. She wanted a baby, he wanted to wait until they were financially stable, she just started flushing her birth control pills until she got "oops, pregnant".

she admitted this to my girlfriend one time when they were drinking, and she told me...and then I had to deal with knowing something that would totally blow up his marriage if I told him.

[–]CookedCritter 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You better have told him..

[–]Gunslinger_11 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Start pouring hot sauce in the spent rubbers. Learn that from some rapper.

[–]Saurons-agent 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is genius. Should start selling tobasco branded. With a sachet of 'insemicide'

[–]Aimless-Nomad 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Check this out. Will make your blood boil more than this shit.

[–]NutsLikeMelons 55 points56 points57 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

And still... the article concludes with the child feeling bad because of the father not wanting them, not because of the mother’s actions. They just can’t help it.

[–]Aimless-Nomad 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Indeed. Look at this for example. (she commits paternity fraud and he is the asshole lol, nearly all the posts on reddit of this nature side with the women)

And this lol. I hAvE 3 ChIlDrEn

Children are just a business for trash women to either live off daddy government or some poor shmuck.

There was an article on how a women had 9 kids to live comfortable on welfare money not too long ago. Seems like its been deleted now.

Plenty of tiktok posts where women themselves reveal their financial plans involving children. Brittany renner being a famous example.

Absolutely sickening.

[+]RetrogradeIntellekt -50 points-49 points-48 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I support this subreddit, but you're a complete piece of shit if you kick a little girl out of your life who has been your daughter for six years when you find out that she's not related to you by blood. You're a complete and utter piece of shit. A worthless human being. You can tell the mom to go fuck herself all you like and not lift a finger for her ever again. But you can't treat a child like that. You have a duty to that child established by the bond you've created by acting as, and actually being, their parent.

Also, I suspect the post of being fake. The person is too emotionally indifferent. How do you form no emotional bond with the person you assume is your child? Seems like rage bait.

[–]bluechair01 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then go raise the daughter. You see no problems raising a kid that isn't your own, so go do it

[–]Akhlyr 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. Blood relation is something else. You may not care about it but most people do. And telling your opinion this aggressively is quite rude.

[–]Ok_Reach7331 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine the roles were reversed. The guy has a kid and the woman is a step mum who helped raise the kid for 6 years. The dad cheats on the woman and tells a massive manipulative horrible lie. The woman wants nothing to do with the daughter or father. Would you still be as angry at the stepmum for ditching the dad and his daughter??? Doubt it.

In the case the mum was a bigger PoS that cheated and lied about a kid being his when it wasn't. She also lied to her daughter and has done her more damage than that guy ever did

[–]needalife94 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

And that is another reason why trashy women should stop doing that kind of shit. The man leaves knowing a child he was raising is not his own and he feels broken and lied to while a child has to deal with the feeling of someone who they thought was daddy not wanting them anymore. If any one is a piece of shit in that situation it's the trashy women who are having babies with different men leading the guy on and leaving him to believe that is his child.

Edited because I misunderstood the comment that this guy commented on. Thought it had to do with females fucking with dudes condoms. My bad.

[–]InformalCriticism 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men in the west desperately need protection against this predatory practice.

[–]AzLibDem 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why we need male birth control.

[–]WeEatBabies 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Holy progress Batman!!!!!

This is the holy grail of the mens right movement, for the first time we get to deny consent!

​

Only 6 month for rape is low, and she is still going to collect child support, but it's still progress.

​

Now do lying about birth control.

Other countries, take notes!

[–]foobar93 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In German law, she is not collecting child support. The child is collecting child support. That is why her actions do not matter.

[–]Speaker7 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Risk Assessment:

Him: 18 years of child support

Her: 6months in jail

Gee, I can't imagine why more women don't try. Bring your own condoms gentlemen, and ruthlessly guard them like the next 18 years of your life depend on it.

[+]eripx1 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Or just get a vasectomy and be done with it. Problem solved

[–]macrotransactions 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ye dude just get sterilized while women are allowed to abort, much equality and very fair

[–]CEBA_nol 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Or just stay away from 'wahmen'

[–]freerossulbrich 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

no need. Just make relationship transactional

[–]CEBA_nol 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean signing a piece of paper before getting romantic?

[–]ignatztempotypo 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly how it should happen. Equality. Responsibility in sexual activity.

[–]andejoh 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was reduced from rape to sexual assault. That among other things including feminism's own rape is rape campaign, puts the lie to the feminists claim that we don't need to recognize the rape of men by women because women could be charged with sexual assault, which they say has the same punishment.

[+]anonymous0311 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This should also include women who lie about being on birth control, it's no different than a dude taking off a condom.

[–]JarinDL7 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good.

[–]mykoiy 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/mensissuesprogress

[–]Paltry_Poetaster 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In Europe, this is done to increase welfare payments and time off from work. If a woman does not feel like working for a living, the choice is to become a baby factory. Thus devolution in Europe.

[–]fear_the_future 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She didn't get 6 months jail, she got a suspended sentence which means she basically got off for free. She will only have to serve her sentence if she commits another serious offence; even if she steals shit or assaults someone she probably won't go to jail and just get another suspended sentence on top. Suspended sentences in Germany are much more lenient than probation in the US.

This isn't necessarily because of sexism. It's a general problem of the German justice system.

[–]foobar93 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I would not call it a problem, it is just that the German system is much more focused on bringing people back into society and keep them as valuable members of said society instead of punishing them.

[–]fear_the_future 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They could still do that with a hefty fine and 200 hours community service. Suspended sentences are a punch in the face for victims.

[–]foobar93 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, that is also something that is done. In this case however, the judge did not do that as the victim and the perpetrate reconciled before the judgement was cast. Thus she went with the minimal sentence.

[–]hehimCA 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This meds to be the law in California too. We have a steak thing law so would like to see if it applies.

[–]ignatztempotypo 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So if I get served a lousy steak, is it the waiter or the manager that goes to jail?

[–]GoatHum 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We need to launch the notion of "Toxic Femininity" into the mainstream because if this isn't an example of that then I don't know what is.

[–]Saurons-agent 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm getting flashbacks to a few months ago, feminists suddenly thinking every guy in the world is a stealther. I had never even heard of the term or idea really, me questioning how often it happened or why was a real nogo. This article reminds me its far more likely that women (overall) stealth men more frequently. This precedent will now see more reporting of this I hope.

[–]ImJustHereForCorn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Should be made into a 9 month no chance of bail, sentencing. This should be made into a law here in America as well.

[–]foobar93 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The judge could chose between 6 months and 2 years if I recall correctly. She went with the minimal sentence because the man has forgiven the woman and so she felt that even the minimal sentence was plenty.

[–]ChaosOpen 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No guy has ever poked a hole in a condom to secretly impregnate a girl. For starters, an abortion is incredibly easy for a girl, so there would be no point to it, plus even if you have a kid that doesn't mean she is going to stay, you've just got stuck with 18 years of financial burden from a kid you will never see. There are zero upsides to getting a girl pregnant. However, it is incredibly beneficial for a girl to get pregnant by a handsome and rich guy.

[–]jamesbailey542 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As it should be.

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