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"A Smaller Share of College-Goers Are Male. So What?"; Discriminatory article mocks Men's issues by outright proclaiming: "SO WHAT?"

Heavy_Grand2526

July 22, 2022
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/r/MensRights
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Title "A Smaller Share of College-Goers Are Male. So What?"; Discriminatory article mocks Men's issues by outright proclaiming: "SO WHAT?"
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Heavy_Grand2526

Upvotes 168
Comments 24
Date July 22, 2022 1:21 AM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/w4xjmn/a_smaller_share_of_collegegoers_are_male_so_what/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/a-smaller-share-of-college-goers-are-male-so-what.1124720
https://theredarchive.com/post/1124720
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Comments

[–]WingsofSky 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as women have more power and everything else. They don't care.

[–]Kuato2012 68 points69 points70 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The author is president of a university. Fuck this earth.

[–]mistermiracle69 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

*Woman's University

[–]ExtentionBobcat 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

interestingly enough we are not allowed men's universities, their is like only one

[–]mistermiracle69 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And that is sexism

[–]ExtentionBobcat 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yep that's the point

[–]Mode1961 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

From reading articles like this over the last several years.

The theme is always the same "Men are doing worse in XYZ, but MUH GENDER PAY GAP."

And people wonder why the GPG is being pushed so hard because it is used to justify just about everything bad happening to men.

[–]Grow_peace_in_Bedlam 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They could at least mention generational divides in all this. Basically, feminists are reproaching educationally marginalized Gen-Z and Millennial men for the good fortune of Boomer and Silent Generation fatcats who refuse to retire.

[–]goinsouth85 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And course, if there are a smaller share of women in anything of prestige, they would go apocalyptic.

My God, they REALLY HATE US

[–]KobeBean[🍰] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You’d think someone in a president position at the university would know how many times the gender pay gap has been debunked by economists with better credentials than her right? Unless she is being willfully ignorant?

[–]shit-zen-giggles 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

first, thx for sharing (and doing so via archive).

As for the content: Straight feminist talking points own the line. On the positive: She managed to represent the pay gap as being an aggregate figure.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman[🍰] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women earn less than men because they work less and choose lower earning career paths.

So what? At least it's due to their agency and not due to bias against you for your sex in grading and admissions

[–]MyBlades 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Women make 77% of what men make. So what?"

Notice that when women are disadvantaged, it's because of a society-wide conspiracy created out of pure hatred of women, meant to keep them down, but when guys are at disadvantage, well that's just because men are lazy losers who just expect everything to be given to them; actually in a fair society most men would be homeless and all women would flourish - that's because only women know how to work hard.

I also love how she presented jobs in energy sector, construction and agriculture as an example of male privilege. Yea, the pay is better than in other entry level jobs, but the working hours are longer, you often have to work outside in cold or sweltering heat, the jobs are physically demanding and will ruin your body after a decade or two. Oh yea, and in some of them a single wrong move can lead to your death or permanent injury. But we don't talk about that. It makes the narrative harder to spin.

And let's not mention that many entry level jobs are either heavily biased towards hiring women, or straight up hire only women, which makes it even harder for men to find other work than the dangerous, hard, physical jobs. Being able to ruin your body by carrying bags of cement in 30°C heat is a privilege and you better to be happy that you have it, shitlord.

[–]hehimCA 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

JFC.

[–]National_One_4990 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They had to throw in the fantasy wage gap bollox. Dear lord, this cannot have been written by a sober person who has more than 30 braincells.

Edit: just learnt that she’s apparently the president of a university. Well if that’s not grounds to get someone fired, I don’t know what is!

[–]AngeloCorr99 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am a man in college right now. It's shit like this that actively inspires me to try harder and do better.

Not to brag, but I finished the last semester with a 4.0 (for the semester, not overall)

[–]throwaway20210821 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And if you think that's bad, look at the employment situation that awaits a lot of males that do go to college even after they graduate.

I wish men's rights organizations would be doing more to work against quotas favoring women and the kind of recruitment and hiring practices colleges and jobs practice that are geared to helping women. Every time there is such a quota (whether for an opening position at a college, a position for a scholarship, an internship, a job), it means that there is an incentive to discriminate against a male candidate whenever the other person competing for the position is female. No one else is going to challenge this issue, they will try to racialize it or draw it into a culture war. And trade school is just not an option for all men, many of those jobs require physical stamina that not all men have.

While we are at it, for the men that fall behind, there is little to no adequate safety net for them as stories like this show.

There is simply no fair leveling playing field for men. If people can't solve that, then the status quo will continue, which is more men not being able to participate in the labor force and not being able to meet milestones past generations were able to.

[–]DavidByron2 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well sure. It's a hate movement. It's bigotry.

[–]Catch-the-Rabbit -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So, I don't see why this is a negative or is fuel to be derogatory.

If you think about it, over the course of the last decade and a half, the college education system has grown more and more expensive, while value of that same level of education has diminished.

To the point that arguments have been brought forward on the benefit of tradesmen and jobs that frankly don't require a college education. Additionally there are several industries that one can build a career in that don't require higher levels of education.

Also, if someone is a really good salesmen, they can work in any industry. That skill isn't taught without real experience or just the rare golden tongue.

Mortgage industry professionals don't require degrees. Niether does banking. Easy to get entry level and work up.

[+]welshwelsh -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Pasting this for context, because I know nobody here is going to read the article:

The reality is that more men are attending college than ever before. According to the Pew Research Center, 36 percent of American men ages 25 to 34 had a bachelor’s degree in 2021. That number has risen from just 20 percent in 1970. Over the same 51-year span, the percentage of women ages 25 to 34 with a bachelor’s degree has risen from 12 percent to 46 percent. Today, the average student body is a 60-40 split in favor of women. The growing gap between men and women is not because men are enrolling less but because women are enrolling more.

Ya I get the "so what" is insensitive, but the point of this article is to debunk the myth that men are doing worse than before or that women's education comes at the expense of men. Plus this increase in women's enrollment is not translating to material advantages; you might expect that if women have higher college enrollment they would have higher average income compared to men, but that's not the case.

The reason women enroll more than men is simple: they need it more. Lots of men make good money without a degree in fields like construction, trades etc. which are male dominated. High paying female-dominated fields like nursing are more likely to require a degree.

[–]JoeSmith1907 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's trying to debunk the myth that women's education comes at the expense of men, but she cherry picks what she cites. Women's overall enrollment might not come at the expense of men but if an institution is selective and only a small percentage of those who apply get in, the one with feminist credentials on her application is going to get in and the guy with men's rights credentials isn't.

The quality of education also comes at the expense of men. Course content and standards are often designed to appease feminists and to "decolonize" the curriculum. And then you have speech codes that punish you for saying something that offends feminists, as well as female hiring preferences, Title IX kangaroo courts, scholarships solely for women, etc.

Also women don't need college more than men. Women can go into trades just like men can. If they prefer to go to college than to learn a trade, it's a choice.

[–]rabel111 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A shallow parroting of a sexist article that uses flawed logic to disregard the entrenched discrimination men and boys are experiencing in education, and demean academics and journalists who are deperately trying to get universities enforce real gender equity.

The comparison between mens enrolments in 1970 and 2021 is flawed as it ignores the changiing context of education over time. The author pretends that it men should just shut-up and be thankful, and ignore the fact that women are continuing to benefit from sexist policies despite dominating enrolments in almost every specialty. It is more valid to compare enrolments by sex in 2021, which show a disgraceful gender bias consistent with the arrogant sexism displayed in the article and your comment.

[–]EvilSapphire 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol the amount of arrogance you'd need to have to write that first line. The 'article' is barely three paragraphs long. Unreal how self unaware people like these can be.

[–]Soapycreek 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good, go learn a trade and laugh when you charge these feminazis hundreds of dollars to unclog their toilet or install a ceiling fan

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