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Governor Ron DeSantis really appears to love his son. Why did he veto default 50/50 equal shared parenting?

OldEgalitarianMRA

August 23, 2022
51 upvotes
/r/MensRights

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Title Governor Ron DeSantis really appears to love his son. Why did he veto default 50/50 equal shared parenting?
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OldEgalitarianMRA

Upvotes 51
Comments 28
Date August 23, 2022 11:53 AM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]Eval-conundrum 36 points37 points38 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

He was pressured by N.O.W. and women's groups to veto it.

There was a whole article about it and feminists coming out and saying how the bill would "hurt families", which makes sense, since the man haters a) only care about money and power, b) hate men, c) hate families and marriage.

So why wouldn't they campaign to punish fathers and destroy families?

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA[S] 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It was equally or more the opposition of the Florida Bar but ultimately it passed the legislature and it rests on DeSantis shoulders to take responsibility for this veto. It makes the rest of the ad seem hollow.

[–]Eval-conundrum 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The ad doesn't really show much about it. He's just a politician. He made a political decision based on the outcomes for him and his party.

If that meant siding with the man haters for votes or support? I don't like it, but politicians are horrible people.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA[S] 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

One of the main issues in the MRM is custody and child support. We must hold politicians responsible for their decisions.

He claims to be his own man. He's a tool like the rest.

[–]ggleblanc2 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The Democratic primary is today. Charlie Crist, Cadance Daniel, Nikki Fried, and Robert Willis are all running.

Which candidate is in favor of 50/50 shared parenting?

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA[S] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

If Kentucky could enact the most comprehensive 50/50 law that is also one of the most popular laws in 2019 then DeSantis could have done it. It's a national trend.

Article on Kentucky law.

As the father of a son who I fought to raise 50/50 costing me tremendously and so an avid campaigner for default 50/50, I was personally insulted by him wrapping his ad in fatherhood just six weeks after vetoing default 50/50, no one brought his son in but him.

I have been campaigning on this site for this law for five months.

See my post history.

It is a slap in the face of all men and women on this site who are having their children used as pawns against them and their children's best interest and who called and wrote emails campaigning for this law to be passed.

All he had to do was not veto it and it would have become law. He acted, at the end of June 2022, against the welfare of families, IMO as an MRA, doesn't have my support.

[–]ggleblanc2 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, DeSantis vetoed the 50/50 shared parenting bill.

The question on the table, which is moot now, is which other candidate supports 50/50 shared parenting. Does Charlie Crist support 50/50 shared parenting?

Otherwise, you're just bashing DeSantis. MRAs have to take the whole candidate into consideration, not just focus on one issue.

[–]MRA_TitleIX 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Has anyone challenged unequal custody assumption on 14th amendment grounds? Someone must have tried right?

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA[S] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

The shared custody movement is a grass roots movement of men and women that read the science and want the best for the children.

The main org in the US is at sharedparenting.org, the National Parents Organization.

Research is clear that the current adversarial system is damaging children and that 50/50 equal shared parenting maintains the family structure and leads to much better outcomes for children as well as parents.

My ex fought against 50/50 but it let her have time to move on and meet someone new.

Being a full time single parent is something I did for three years and it's rewarding but you have no adult life.

The fight is in the state legislatures and governor's offices. State by state. So far 17 states have enacted some form of shared custody.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_shared_parenting_legislation

And according to a private corp equal 50/50 is becoming very common in many states.

Their data:

https://www.custodyxchange.com/topics/research/dads-custody-time-2018.php

[–]TFME1 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems more likely to me that there was some "Impossible Pork" in the bill, and I'm not referring to the porcine kind. Douchebag Liberals love to dangle "wholesome-sounding" legislation that, upon zero due diligence by the masses, will appeal widely and wildly to as many useful idiots as they can get to support it. Of course, when you look further into the fine print, there's a whole host of impossible pork attached to it. Then they get a "win" either way:

if it passes, they get their Big Government pork and the adulation (and future votes) of the useful idiot masses (who don't even know what they really voted for or are perfectly willing to be bought off cheap and compromise their principles for some low-value "free handouts", despite nothing ever actually being "free").

If it fails to pass, then they can browbeat the dissenters in front of the useful idiot masses (who've not done their Due Diligence) in pure theater and say, "Those immoral Republicans hate you! They're greedy monsters who think you're an idiot!"

Well, it's quite the opposite: Democrats count on the Useful Idiot Masses to stay ignorant. They'll even lend a hand to "blissful ignorance" through censorship. It's not surprising, anyways, since no one has time to read 2,000 page documents in their "spare time" between working, eating and sleeping. Not even the politicians read the 2,000 page documents THEY'RE PAID to generate, read, understand and stump for.

While it's true that both parties do this, the Democrats are definitely the Gold Medalists in this competition, as they continue to chant "By Any Means Necessary" and do some mental masturbation about how much they're "helping others" (they're not, actually. They just like to think so and "they're right" whether you agree or not). That seems to include any unethical and immoral means, without even a second thought about the implications of it all. They also manage to get the Silver Medal, as well, through cheating and grifting, with a polluted, tainted Teleological/Consequentialist view of ethics and morality: "the ends justify the means". No matter that the ends they're seeking are tyrannical and, well, simply crappy.

[–]CawlinAlcarz 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't underestimate the revenue that Title IV-D brings to states.

[–]YetAnotherCommenter 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Campaign contributions from Floridian divorce lawyers, I presume.

Plus, like too many conservatives, he's desperate to not look "anti-woman."

[–]tsawsum1 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

DeSantis is a career politician and generally not a solid dude.

[+]FunEcho4739 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I support 50/50 parenting time because I am a feminist. Absent one parent being hooked on hard core drugs or criminally violent- 50/50 benefits everyone. It's what feminists want during marriage so it should be what we want in divorce!

[–]rsa1x 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Cuckservatives are not men's allies

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA[S] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The State Senator who advanced the legislation was a Republican so this doesn't paint all Repubs as being anti-family and anti-men but it says something about DeSantis we should not forget. He had the power to do something.

[–]alclarkey 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And he still might. He never said he was against the idea. He just didn't sign it this time around for who knows what reason. Regardless, given a bill worded correctly he'd be willing to sign.

[–]WA0SIR 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At this point I don’t even make judgments by what bills are supported or not by individuals. Bills have so much in them that are “snuck” in so no one knows often politicians will sign or not based on these small entries.

[–]GivesStellarAdvice -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Because Ron DeSantis's platform is to be the biggest asshole he can be. Even bigger than Trump, if possible.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA[S] 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

At least Trump did some things to help our movement like picking Betsy DeVoos for sec of education who made major advances for justice for accused men on campus. He is not my favorite politician but he acted in a fair and not misandrist fashion.

[–]MaxTheCatigator 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And he stopped CRT based indoctrination of federal employees by executiv order. That was immediately reversed by Biden when he took office. Trump also introduced a rehab program for inmates getting released, which predominantly helps men.

[–]GivesStellarAdvice -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn every once in a while.

[–]TAPriceCTR 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

show me a blind squirell who can keep russia out of ukraine, chill kim jung un, get the abraham accords going, and piss off carreer liars to the point that they are failing to hide their undemocratic nature. trump is an ass who I hated since long before hating him was popular... but he did a damn good job as president considering all the shit those with DTS were spraying at him.

[–]GivesStellarAdvice -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

LOL. Give dictators what they want to keep them from invading nearby countries doesn't seen like a good long-term strategy to me. YMMV.

[–]TAPriceCTR 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Putin wants CRIMEA!. What do you suspect Trump have him instead?

[–]alclarkey -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He said it was because he thought it would invalidate alimony judgements already in place. A lame reason, but it does indicate it is still on the table with the right construction.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It was tied to a bill that would effectively eliminate lifetime alimony. That was unfortunate. This bill is far more important morally as it affects many families that are the subject of custody laws.

I think the Bar Association was also concerned about lifetime alimony awards being overturned.

It goes to show that these politicians care more about money than children.

[–]ThrillaDaGuerilla 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Might also go to show that the bar doesn't want the courts to be inundated with massive numbers of cases looking to have their alimony adjusted after nullifying decades of past case decisions inadvertently.

...but I'm just guessing on that.

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