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A women’s college goes coed, enraging students and alumnae

Heavy_Grand2526

September 27, 2022
222 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2022/09/19/women%E2%80%99s-college-goes-coed-enraging-students-and-alumnae
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Title A women’s college goes coed, enraging students and alumnae
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Heavy_Grand2526

Upvotes 222
Comments 39
Date September 27, 2022 12:21 AM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xp0usx/a_womens_college_goes_coed_enraging_students_and/
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Comments

[–]WingsofSky 197 points198 points199 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

So it's okay to force all male institutions into co-ed, but not all female? Then they cry about bigotry and oppression.

Some people love having their cake and eating it too.

[–]Fearless-File-3625 78 points79 points80 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are shameless.

[–]MRA_TitleIX 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So it's okay to force all male institutions into co-ed, but not all female?

It has always depended on the type of institution. The regs state that if you meet xyz criteria you can't discriminate. Private undergraduate colleges are basically the only ones who can discriminate in admissions. They have to be strictly undergrad. No grad courses. No research with people holding top degrees for the field.

Even then, there are some tricky tacky rules. Technically you can meet the definition of both a private undergrad and grad school, which would mean you can't discriminate in admissions. Like, if you are undergrad degrees only but have graduate classes you meet the definition of both. Regs state Private grad schools can't discriminate. Doesn't matter that you are also a private undergrad. If you meet a single element of the school types banned from discriminating in admissions you can't do it. The regs state who can't discriminate in admissions, not who can.

The reality is they turn a blind eye to any female only private undergrad and ignore the fact that they often meet the definition of a graduate school. OCR claims private undergrads can discriminate. The law doesn't say this. It only says who can't, and if they meet the one of those definitions it doesn't matter if they are also a private undergrad.

In example, Barnard. They offer graduate level classes and research with professors. Technically meets the definition of a graduate school and can't discriminate in admissions. OCR misapplied the law in dismissing my case saying private undergrads can discriminate. The law doesn't say this anywhere. They know it is a violation and don't care. Someone will have to take it to court to see anything happen.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 45 points46 points47 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

First of all I thought women were tied to apron strings 125 years ago. No, indeed there were all women colleges. Women could go to college.

Secondly the male colleges were forced to go co-ed. This college is going co-ed to attract men and, I suppose, heterosexual women who like colleges without discrimination against men.

But I'm all for all male and all female colleges and am glad they are not being forced to go co-ed by the government.

IMO boys could benefit from all male colleges as these women say all female colleges allow for unique sex differences.

[–]Kinexity 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Boys benefit from boys-only schools in terms of education. Girls don't benefit in terms of education from girls-only schools. Idk if it applies to higher levels of education but that's how it is.

[–]Keronisin 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, at this point, most "gender-neutral" schools nowadays, at least in the USA, either promote female-only programs & tuitions, teach in a way that caters towards female mentality, deal with male discipline much more seriously than female discipline, or paint men in a bad light.

Just last year, my highschool had a public TSA about drunk driving where they actually used several cars and crashed them into each other (thankfully empty at the time), borrowed a medical helicopter, two squad cars, and a team for each, and used student actors to portray the people in the crashed cars. Out of around 7 actors, there were:

- An expecting parent.
- A lonely genius with, as they put it, colossal IQ.
- A severely special-ed kid who couldn't even talk.
- A lesbian couple who just started dating.
- A neckbeard. They were the drunk driver.
- A ten-year-old going home from school.

Of the 7 student actors, two were men.
Guess which.

[–]WingsofSky 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do agree. There are different teaching methods for men and women. Too bad people with pointy aluminum hats complain about everything.

[–]Angryasfk 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s a very consistent part of the feminist playbook.

[–]MaxTheCatigator 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The same applies to HBCUs, Historically Black Colleges and Universities, about 100 still exist in the US.

It's considered perfectly fine to openly discriminate against whites, though most HBCUs had to start accepting different races/ethnicities, too, for the same reason that all-female college has to start accepting men.

[–]WingsofSky 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I thought the supreme court said it was okay to discriminate against men and white people?

[–]MaxTheCatigator 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No idea if the SC did that, nor how that would make it right. You can't condemn discriminating against one group based on an immutable criteria while condoning or even supporting it against another.

[–]reverbiscrap 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I know of no hbcu that isnt an undergrad school, and, as stated above, can legally discriminate if they choose.

Even then, a fair few are accepting non-ADOS students now.

[–]MaxTheCatigator 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't aware that there's a differnce between state and federal level, at least that's how I understand you. Thx for the headsup.

Guess I'll have some reading ahead of me.

[–]ImaginaryDimension74 66 points67 points68 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists say they want equality, but complain when they get it.

[–]whtsnk 35 points36 points37 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Good for the college. Bad for the people enraged by the decision.

[–]RunawayGrain 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Bad for the people enraged by the decision.

Not really. It's a dream come true for them. Those folks get off on being enraged at men. Now that they have some men around to directly be enraged at, they are going to go overdrive in their quest for attention. Per their M.O., they will moan about how bad it is for them, though.

[–]Keronisin 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not to mention how many paychecks they can get with their new job in sexual sabotage and false accusations...

[–]matrixislife 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I were looking for a college to do a degree at, this would be bottom of the list. Who needs the paranoia and ostracism that will face male students this coming year?

[–]somethingneet 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What money does to a mf lmao college is the most lucrative racket in America rn

[–]RifleShower 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The Boy Scouts would like a word.

[–]MBV-09-C 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We've been wanting a word for quite some time now, I'm still sour over that bs.

[–]KazukiYahashi 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Such hypocrites.

[–]DavidByron2 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On multiple levels.

This move is in response to demands of other women.

[–]vwatchrepair 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"We demand equality!!"

"noT LiKe tHaT!!"

[–]elebrin 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh, so women don't like it when their women-only place is forced to go co-ed. I see. Yet they have no problem doing the same to men. Somehow men wanting a man-only space is different than women wanting a women-only space. It's almost like they are only thinking about themselves.

[–]DavidByron2 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

women don't like it when their women-only place is forced to go co-ed

No; the move is done to appeal to women. It's the former students (some at least) with the problem. They literally say in the title that it was done because of falling interest (by women) in attending a women-only college.

[–]DavidByron2 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's done to benefit women. Of course.

to combat enrollment declines

Women don't want to go to colleges with no men.

[–]TheeBattleMedic 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So you can identify as a T-Rex and be any gender you want but god forbid you were born male and expect to be treated like a human being. I went to a school in (Marymount Manhattan college)Manhattan that was 80% women and 10% of those men were gay or trans so you know just like the women they hated men. One girl made art about killing men, a professor told students she loved a play about killing men and everyone would cheer and laugh. I was also viewed as a outside, most didn’t even want to talk to a man. I’m not surprised to see this mmc would do the same thing

[–]_BlueShark87 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean I like gender separated learning spaces as boys and girls are inherently different and thus require different learning techniques. Also notice how this is literally only towards girls only. One of the few males only schools near me became co-ed and someone threw a party because it was great that girls could participate in an awesome learning space.

[–]Far-Reputation7119 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why are all boy schools and organizations, becoming co-ed? Are boys and men not allowed to have their own stuff.

[–]_BlueShark87 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No that’s sexist

[–]pissoffmods1234 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only thing I kept thinking was Notre Dame? Maryland? Notre Dame Maryland? What is this school.called? 😂

[–]RedFox3001 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh dear. What a shame

[–]twisty286 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lets make a co-ed college just for men and watch their reaction

“we feel incredibly disrespected”

for making a school co-ed? don’t people want co-ed and gender equality?

[–]IronJohnMRA 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course it enraged them, they hate men.

[–]weirdornxtlvl 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Enrollment rates at female only universities are declining. They did it for money, they don't give a shit about men.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"At the undergraduate level, particularly when you have students coming out of high school doing their core identity-forming, it is so empowering for women to have a space in a classroom where they don’t feel judged, where they can feel heard and be engaged as women growing into professionals."

I don't get how they can't achieve any of that with male colleagues, plus it's hilarious how they imply women don't judge.

[–]PonderingMan33 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But what is her??

[–]Bound-Submissive 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They have no right to object and protest the fact that the college lets men in. What kind of misandry is that? Scandalous!

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