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"Yes! marry for money, but always assume divorce!" - So much for "for richer, for poorer, for sickness, and in health". Marriage is just a source of income.

ABeeBox

November 4, 2022
436 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/11/economist-shares-the-surprising-money-benefits-of-marriage.html
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Title "Yes! marry for money, but always assume divorce!" - So much for "for richer, for poorer, for sickness, and in health". Marriage is just a source of income.
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ABeeBox

Upvotes 436
Comments 34
Date November 4, 2022 9:31 AM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/yltxm9/yes_marry_for_money_but_always_assume_divorce_so/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/yes-marry-for-money-but-always-assume-divorce-so.1138168
https://theredarchive.com/post/1138168
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Comments

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 105 points106 points107 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

From the article. Thinking a marriage will work is an "irrational expectation". So why when men talk about how unlikely marriage is to work and that the cost, especially in loss of love of children, has to be weighed when considering marriage, people call us misogynists?

[–]mjociv 90 points91 points92 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Marriage can also benefit your long-term standard of living, albeit to a highly imperfect and uncertain extent, if you’re awarded alimony in divorce.

An estimated 41% of all first marriages will end in divorce or separation, according to data from California-based law firm Wilkinson & Finkbeiner.

I love calling alimony a "benefit [to] your long-term standard of living" and talking about it in a way that a thoroughly ignorant person would believe both sides of a divorce could have it awarded.

So, CNBC, what percent of money that flows through the family court system goes from men to women? Still over 95%?

[–]Acousmetre78 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Also, if you ever heard a man saying he gets alimony most people will call him names and insult him. It’s his right too. I like how genitals don’t matter unless you have a penis.

[–]OutrageousAttitude88 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly i think if a man get's married nowadays he can divorce the woman and take her money since nowadays woman earn more than men anyways like there is proof . So yeah the tables have turned against them

[–]Happy_Secret_1299 51 points52 points53 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Damn this was written by a dude too. What the shit man.

[–]kinkyonebay 34 points35 points36 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

White knighting at its best.

[–]ABeeBox[S] 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a rich guy looking to sugar daddy someone. I couldn't find any mention of a wife in any of his online biographies.

[–]DaddysCavern 50 points51 points52 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Marriage is a contract to be a prisoner. Don't do it.

[–]M1L03 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Just don't it's plane stupid (nowadays).

[–]Numerous1 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Plain stupid? Plane stupid? Now I don’t know.

[–]M1L03 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh! I apologize, english is not my native language and a few bears got me bold enough to post without spell checking. And I might be making the same mistake again. :)

[–]Numerous1 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No worries. I seriously do not know or else I would have tried to politely correct you.

[–]M1L03 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My gues would be plain, but, as I said: bear.

[–]needalife94 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"For richer , for poorer , in sickness and in health" has been destroyed with all the social media and dating apps. Shit , you could be in the hospital while your spouse is at home on dating apps. :/

[–]ABeeBox[S] 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's the beauty of social media, she doesn't need to be at home, she can be right next to you in your hospital bed while you're in a coma.

[–]needalife94 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

So true. That should have been part of my point.

[–]Icy-Start5536 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As much as we can swipe after sex while she's sleeping on our chest. Been there, done then and she knew, too. Awesome.

[–]pargofan 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But we humans have the capacity to fall in love with lots of people. And there’s no shame in targeting your swooning on someone who can provide you with a higher standard of living.

Now I aint saying she's a gold digger but she aint messin with no broke niggas

[–]needalife94 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

None of that was like "marry someone you love. Marry someone who holds you down". He literally said "marry for money". "Marry for a better life". "Get married and assume it will end in divorce". Well shit, with all that, it sounds like I shouldn't get married at all.

[–]ABeeBox[S] 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, literally sounds like the only reason to getting married is you can get free income and cash out when you want. I wonder who benefits from that the most... Hmmm...

[–]Kill_Frosty -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean, this guy is an idiot but let’s not be incels. There are good women out there and there are women who love their husbands and are not about vanity.

Just like there are good men out there who aren’t abusive

[–]Shuddemell666 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But you never really know for sure until half your stuff is walking out the door. Bad deal all around for men in western society. Magical thinking like "it won't happen to me" or "I know she'd never do that to me" is delusional. You never know for sure until it's too late.

[–]needalife94 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is true. But we are not being incels by talking about why marriage is bad for men in 2022. What we are talking about has nothing to do with being an incel.

[–]agenericusername9 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this supposed to make men want to marry?

[–]wwwhistler 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

and this attitude right there could wind up killing the very idea of marriage. even now there are fewer and fewer reasons to actually get married....and this growing attitude is one of them.

[–]EvidencePlz 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

killing the very idea of marriage

The idea has already been killed for a very high number of men all over the world and the number is only going up.

[–]Shuddemell666 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my neck of the woods, it's already dead and buried. For very good reason.

[–]rebar71 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is no incentive for men to get married anymore. Except for child-rearing. Otherwise, marriage is a lose-lose proposition for men today. Thank you, feminism.

[–]M1L03 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you, feminism.

Well, even though I don't like feminism, to put it mildly, I think that the white knights are the real problem here. I get it, it's biology, social standards and s#it, the hell!, I don't think that there ever was a man (with a proper functioning hormones) who didn't made that mistake, including me.

Luckely there is a hope. Spread the word guys! But be smart about it, don't go out and preach it out loud, that can only get you in trouble. Show me the man and I'll show you someone who's heart was broken, or was wrong done by a woman. Spread the word to your brothers and friends when no one else is listening so they wouln't feel the social preasure and don't push it - let it sink in. A word by word, a violation of their comfort zone at a time, they will start to see that the emperor has no clothing.

[–]ABeeBox[S] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Kotlikoff’s advice that the minute you get married you should be prepared for and expect to get divorced, probably in 10 years.

  • https://rethinking65.com/2021/10/29/getting-to-know-economist-laurence-kotlikoff/

If you get married, expect divorce in 10 years, but you should marry for money - to paraphrase. Very strange, since I'd say a vast majority of men wouldn't consider marriage a financial positive, although, it can be for women. Men gotta pay alimony, child benefits that are alongside "to support mother's lifestyle", the wedding itself, the ring etc. That's a lot of assets and passive income from a divorce.

Marriage is also more of the bride's day than it is the groom's day. Everything revolves around the bride. She is the only one to wear a white dress, while you dress in a suit just like every other guy there. You look at wedding photos and the camera is either on you and her together, or only her. It's her big day, not yours. In every movie it's always been her. Everyone gasps when she walks in. All the attraction is on her. She is the princess of the day, you're the lucky guy. I could go on.

She gets to organize the wedding, you pay for it, she chooses the honeymoon, you pay for it, she cheats on you with Rob from accounting, you pay for it.

Everyone lives their lives differently, some times people fall out of love, other times troubling times come around the corner, other times marriage ending mistakes happen, but it's absurd that it's always the men that have to lick the muddy soles of the boot every time.

[–]bezm12 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Marraige benefits both partners, according to the article... The woman gets a partner who is a higher earner, the man gets what? Oh yeah, the responsibility to pay alimony if they divorce. And oh yeah, the responsibility to protect oneself by getting a proper prenup and buying a diamond ring. Oh joy.

[–]fresh_lemon_scent 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Marriage is a scam don't feed the machine

[–]Numerous1 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I couldn’t even get through this. This is absolutely disgusting.

[–]MusicFinal 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly why I love the term "partnership". We in this shit together!

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