Apparently fighting and dying in war is how you become a man.

fukuaneveryoneuknow · 2013-06-06T21:33:51+00:00

http://fe867b.medialib.glogster.com/media/ce/ce928c3fdb22f259e30a5fb518f4414f3b8791a9030251606a2f1b1acdd5a527/child-soldiers11-jpg.jpg

No different than the linked pic in OP.

"boys becoming men".

There is an important if depressing lesson to be learned here though.

The second a female has her first period, she is no longer a girl, she is a woman, this goes without question the rest of her life.

For males however, he has to constantly prove himself again and again, usually to women.

A man's manhood is decided from one minute to the next, his very place within society is constantly at question.

carniemechanic · 2013-06-06T20:49:23+00:00

It's certainly how to become a dead man.

Mythandros · 2013-06-06T22:44:53+00:00

No, fighting and dying in war is how you become a corpse. But I understand your disgust, I share it.

octopusmonarch · 2013-06-06T22:37:36+00:00

I saw that but didn't think anyone else recognized it. Glad to see someone did

TheJollySatan · 2013-06-06T22:36:43+00:00

War is perhaps the most primitive form of tribalism that still exists in the modern world. It is men who have no personal quarrel with one another killing each other for a master.

7wap · 2013-06-06T20:30:41+00:00

+700, top comment reads,

He's a corporal. That means he shows more leadership, responsibility, and strength characteristics then the majority of those guys. Baby face, but by no means unprepared.

On the positive side, most of the comments criticize this awful post in some way.

7wap · 2013-06-06T22:26:53+00:00

Maybe it's just me but I feel war is routinely dismissed by feminists as a talking point for male oppression. I understand there is huge controversy over whether or not women belong in combat roles. Being a veteran and former 11B(Army Infantry) myself I feel that segregation is necessary. You can't idealize men and women into being comfortable with pissing, shitting, changing, bathing and sleeping in very close quarters with each other out of necessity. That would be a huge readiness/cohesion problem.

That doesn't mean women cannot have their own units and do their part. It may sound sexist, but a military concerned with politics and correctness only works to destroy itself. War does not care about your personal ideology.

Stephen_Morgan · 2013-06-07T08:22:21+00:00

'What I don't know is whether I am less manly than other men because killing troubles me more than it does them.'

-- Gunnar of Hlidarendi, in Njal's Saga

Jiujitsuismygf · 2013-06-06T21:33:26+00:00

While I despise the glorification of war and the military. He is becoming a man in the sense that he is doing what he HAS to do at the expense of his safety.

Demonspawn · 2013-06-06T20:48:27+00:00

Society glorifies warriors, because it needs warriors to not be conquered.

Shitbruh · 2013-06-07T07:37:48+00:00

Men are brave when they do things for others instead of themselves. (Die in war, work their whole life to support a family, be late to work for changing a woman's tire, bite their tongue when dealing with crazy argumentative people)

Women are brave when they do things for themselves instead of others. (be single instead of commited, date "like" men, choose to go against society's standards of beauty while following traditional male standards of beauty and manhood, not having kids by choice, etc)

KRosen333 · 2013-06-06T20:35:31+00:00

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Title	Apparently fighting and dying in war is how you become a man.
Author	7wap
Upvotes	35
Comments	81
Date	June 6, 2013 8:29 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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