For the average or below average guy, Is lying about your intentions with a women the most consistent way to get casual sex?

EviessVeralan · 2023-03-25T20:55:16+00:00

Probably yes. But any man doing this needs to acknowledge and be ok with the idea that he is personally contributing to a culture of misandry because doing this sours these women on men or makes women inherently distrustful of men.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2023-03-25T22:30:46+00:00

Lowering your standards abd lying is the best way to get consistent casual sex as a below average guy.

Best_Illustrator_137 · 2023-03-25T23:26:57+00:00

I don’t think you have to even be average or below average..this is pretty consistent with what a lot of guys who aren’t looking for relationships do. I’ve seen my “above average friends” who always score do the same thing my “below average” friends also do when it’s just slangin D out in the streets..most guys no matter the amount of play do this, especially rich dudes or guys who are considered in the top “10%” do all the time, treat the girl nice for a lil bit then secure and then dip to the next girl or do this with multiple girls. It’s just the play nowadays cause most dudes aren’t looking for a relationship, me included.

VehementlyDrawn · 2023-03-26T11:46:18+00:00

This is the best way for any dude to get sex. But here's the key, you aren't leading anyone on if you're actually looking for a relationship.

facingitall · 2023-03-26T08:39:20+00:00

Casual sex is unfulfilling for me. Don't get me wrong. It can be fun to build a few good memories to look back on and be relatively safe with it, but it reaches a point where the return on investment just isn't worth it.

But to answer your question, unfortunately, yes. I knew of an average to below average looking sociopath who created a profile to signal that he's rich and successful, and he was slaying on tinder. He even convinced a girl to give him her inheritance. Was a mindfuck

NotARussianBot1984 · 2023-03-25T20:42:20+00:00

Im below average height guy.

I'm very fit, and I match with obese girls on Tinder.

Now it's unlikely we will be a good fit for a relationship, but maybe she has an amazing personality? Just so happens when you are a fit charming guy that pays for dinner, often they sleep with you first date.

Generally obese girls have some mental health issues going on, and thus a relationship wouldn't work.

Just cause a relationship is unlikely doesn't make you a bad guy. But yes don't lie to them.

Whnitallfallsdown · 2023-03-25T22:36:15+00:00

Ain't no laws against it

The dumb sluts deserve to be lied to. If they want sex to be tied to commitment they can keep their whore legs closed until they get commitment

Don't like it then they can get on their whore knees and literally beg their legislator to make it a crime

ManWazo · 2023-03-26T00:17:39+00:00

No. A girl that wants a relationship will wait at least 5 dates for sex, while one who wants casual sex will do it on first date. If you say you're looking for relationship, you'll match with people that will make you wait, while being straightforward about wanting sex will help you match with same minded people. The majority of people having cadual sex are totally honest about it.

crypto_druid · 2023-03-26T03:39:39+00:00

Haha, try that strategy a few times and come back and tell us the results.

NOBODY likes to feel used, least not in a sexual predatory way.

You might be good at playing games, but there are women out there who are better at playing games than you. If you manipulate women into sleeping with you….when they find out you’re not the person you presented yourself as…..they will find a way to punish you.

Guys have had their lives totally destroyed by women after manipulating them for sex. Rape allegations, getting other men to beat them up, cancel culture, social media shaming and all sorts of horrific ways that you couldn’t even imagine. If you want to dance with the devil, try it out and see what could happen.

There are plenty of women who are interested in non commitment fun, focus on them. Always be honest about your intentions.

PS, you’re also pissing in the pool for the rest of us, this is one of the reasons women are non trusting of men and so guarded. The next guy that she meets after you is going to have a tougher time to get close to her.

KayRay1994 · 2023-03-25T21:09:54+00:00

if you enjoy being a manipulative liar - aka a shitty person, then yes

atmhere11 · 2023-03-26T02:49:03+00:00

It seems like it, a huge reason why I completely stopped giving average/below average men a chance at a date at all lmfao

RatDontPanic · 2023-03-26T03:32:21+00:00

FFS, casual sex is way overrated.

crypto_druid · 2023-03-26T08:09:56+00:00

I think being without intimacy for a prolonged period of time can lead to decrepitcy of the mind, lack of intimacy hardens men’s brains, makes them less agreeable, more cynical and potentially leads to compromising their own personal ethical boundaries.

When biological cravings take over a man and loneliness starts kicking in, he can lose sense of rationale, women just start to seem as though they are all the same, can only see the worst in women, will become automatically cynical about all new women they meet.

On top of that, that can lead to caring less about the needs of women in favour of getting his own needs met.

You seem to be entering the cusp where you are shifting from cynicism, to considering using con artistry to get your needs met. This is entering the sexual predator domain.

Of course it’s possible to cheat, lie and steal your way through life, some people are addicted con artistry, and some people even get away with it for a while, but long runs the fox…..

Is that is a rabbit hole that you REALLY need to enter?.

I suggest against this path, not only because of the reasons of potential repercussions which I already stated in the other comment, but becuase its a path that will not bring you fulfilment. It’s a destructive and chaotic path that can create pain and suffering for you and the people who encounter you.

I would suggest tackling the cynism that is making you want to open this Pandora’s box and ask yourself where that’s coming from and consider if there are more healthy and less destructive avenues you could look into that don’t require abusing women’s trust to fulfil your own needs.

500mgofShower · 2023-03-26T15:51:22+00:00

Men developed the ability to manipulate, trick and lie to women for sex over hundreds of thousands of years.

I would say within our lifetimes, a movement will be orchestrated to akin this to sexual assault. “He lied to me about his fancy job, I wouldn’t have slept with him had he told me the truth, this is sexual assault!!!”

DiscardedShard · 2023-03-26T16:06:56+00:00

Imo the average guy shouldn't be looking for casual sex because it's about as economic as eating diamond cereal for breakfast.

The average dude should be leveling up so that he can eventually attract a realistic grounded woman near his own tier. Believe it or not they do exist and many women aren't delusional but you still wanna be a good person to spend time around which is actually harder than people realize. Being happy is quite difficult but there's no reason a 4-6 out of 10 shouldn't be able to achieve that and find a relationship.

Back when I was younger I used to see (this sounds cruel) but this really objectively unattractive woman working at a grocery store, hanging out at a coffee shop after work reading a fantasy book. She did that pretty frequently for years.

There's women who have content and aren't delusional but they are also cautious about shitty men and will dodge them.

I blame so much of the problems we have on the economy. Imagine being able to live the life bagging groceries or selling lottery tickets at a gas station. Maybe I just speak for myself but that work is what I enjoy but I won't do it for slave wages. For a good living wage I'd do most common jobs.

Sorry for the huge tangential rant I'm senial today.

Title	For the average or below average guy, Is lying about your intentions with a women the most consistent way to get casual sex?
Author	500mgofShower
Upvotes	12
Comments	110
Date	March 25, 2023 8:20 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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