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The Woman Who Thinks Reducing the Male Population by 90 Percent Will Solve Everything

HarpreetASingh

April 10, 2021
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/5gkkj5/is-reducing-the-male-population-by-90-percent-the-solution-to-all-our-problems
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Title The Woman Who Thinks Reducing the Male Population by 90 Percent Will Solve Everything
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HarpreetASingh

Upvotes 165
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Date April 10, 2021 9:46 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]Tao_of_clean_data 90 points91 points92 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

And so go the arguments of any psychopath who only sees people as things to be manipulated and managed. I can imagine Hitler having similar "rational discussions" with references to people who are experts or highly knowledgeable in support of the idea that everything would be great if it weren't for those pesky Jews and other detrimental portions of the population.

This woman is dangerous. I hope someone responsible is keeping an eye on her.

[–]Criket 38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

True, replace men with jews or black and see the full craziness of her thinking.

[–]kashh444 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

did u know there is a subreddit for that

[–]Dangerous_Wing_6520 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You gotta be kidding bruh

[–]P_G_1021 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

r/menkampf

[–]kashh444 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

told ya.

amazing place btw c:

[–]Criket 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool! I subscribed.

[–]AMachoManRandySavage 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like your one of the 90! Start being a part of the 10 so these ideas don’t make sense! Ohhhhhhh Yeeeeaaaaahhhhhh! #10%’s

[–]Tao_of_clean_data 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha, yeah, I'd definitely need to be one of the first to go.

[+]Agirlformensright -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Stop comparing things to the holocaust. She's an ass. But this isn't as bad, due to this simple fact: she didn't act on her being dumb.

[–]Tao_of_clean_data 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What she is actually taking about is more or less equivalent to the Holocaust, she's just chosen a more sterile way of going about it. Ethically, though, there isn't much difference, imo. What I have said is not the same as those silly people who are trying to prove their point with hyperbolic language.

Also, she hasn't acted yet. I don't think it's likely her views will ever get traction but you really never know. She's being interviewed by this magazine, after all.

[–]kashh444 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

a jew here.

i hate her more then i hate modarn nazis, both should be burn but u know, i get ur point so im sorry for u being downvoted

[–]thetruemask 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Genocidal thinking is genocidal thinking.

And dumb and genocidal is only slightly less dangerous than being smarter and genocidal.

Hitler happened because people allowed or encouraged his ideologies. And shared his propaganda.

Allowing someone like her to continue on her nonsense could have devastating consequences like starting a gender war or increasing the divide between the sexes. Like this world needs any more division.

Even though society should be smarter and more advanced recent events like trumpers, flat earthers, scientology, antivaxxers (Russia was proven to start or at least greatly spread anti Vax propaganda online to Americans) and Covidiots have proven we are as susceptible to propaganda now as ever. Maybe more even with fake information traveling so fast.

[–]Maxwell1138 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

An Archive Version

I've never actually read an interview with her before. I suppose its my own fault for being surprised. But its shocking how clearly she has absolutely no value for males as a gender. She quite literally thinks they have no purpose in society. The stark reality of her viewpoint is haunting to look at when its laid out in the interview like that. I suppose I wanted her to be more foaming at the mouth insane, rather cold logic calculation insane.

For anyone not wanting to wade through it, she thinks that 'genetically superior' men should be removed society for 'breeding purposes'. And every other man allowed to die. Then control future birth and breeding through advanced genetic engineering and chromosome manipulation. Oh and sometimes physical labour.

[–]RiseWasHere 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It won’t be slavey though. They just won’t be paid!

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's just a standard FemaleDatingStrategy opinion.

[–]OzoneLaters 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh man that FemaleDatingStrategy is bad those girls have so much contempt for men... I read that sub sometimes just so that I know the kind of women I need to avoid...

[–]logsdon36 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A part of me would actually like to see this. It would be A LOT of complaining that nothing is getting done.

[–]SYNONYM_CRUNCH 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow, what a blast from the past. Still can't believe people took her seriously enough to give her what she wanted - attention.

[–]sakura_drop 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The linked article is five years old, but Karen Straughan did a video on her eight years ago. She used it very well as a jumping off point to lay out an argument as to how any wave or faction of feminism - from the milquetoast "coffee shop" ones to the nut job extremists like Barbie Hitler, here - all ultimately fall under the banner and cannot be excused from it (I.E. "NAFALT1!!1")

feminism, y'all gotta own this sh*t

It's a good watch, especially as it relates to a highly common rhetoric.

[–]DownvoteMe2021 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the type of rhetoric that causes a correction in the reverse, where society reverts to, as many feminists would call "draconian patriarchy", and society rejects hundreds of years of equality.

[–]benderXX 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the real face of feminism. She is only saying out loud what is the end game. Control through violence.

Equality begins with person responsibility. Ask a feminist what women are responsible for and watch their heads explode.

[–]Criket 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Women gonna fight each other to death for men and loose all of their right. They will be obligated to share, be obedient and to be second, third or fourth spouses. Women highly dislike physical, dangerous and stressful job, this will not change.

After WWI and WWII because of the lost of many men, women rights felt at their lowest and men had the most choices of partners. Ressources where so low for women that you can have virtually any of them in your bed in exchange of pantyhose.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Women gonna fight each other to death for men and loose all of their right. They will be obligated to share,

What if the man is uninterested, or if he's gay/asexual. What will happen then, will they force him to marry them? Will they rape them? Also what will become of MTF trans ppl who haven't started to transition as yet?

Edit: also if this actually goes down, how is it going to start? What will be the catalyst? And if so, wouldn't some people fight against this, and against being taken to death camps when its physically rolled out.

[–]Criket 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Enslavement... isn't that marriage presently is to men?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes and no, since at least under this current system of marriage, it is still an option. You can still choose to get married, and if you want to have an albeit expensive divorce, you can do so. So yes it is enslavement, but you can choose whether you want to accept those chains or not.

[–]maxyamongus 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This feels like a certain evil mustache mans plan for the world.....

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Literally the world would die in a matter of months.

[–]python1982 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Electricians- mostly men Water/sewge - men Garbage collection- men Fire/police - men Pilots - men Doctors- men Farmers - men Truck drivers- men

You're talking about industries that are 85+ percent male working for 100 percent of the population. Take away 90 percent of the population , you'd die off fairly quick as you daily needs diminish. Women can't just pick up a manual and run things efficient in the time that happens.

[–]i-Wayfarer 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So true. That woman is a complete mental case nut job

[–]Rolaid-Tommassi 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think I saw her on a documentary called "Crazy cat-ladies"

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then feminists start telling us these kind of extremist people are not real feminist. That's by THEIR definition of feminism. Look how that worked out for the definition incel.

[–]incisive_shadow55 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hahahahaha wow... this just reached a whole new level of crazy

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[–]Tao_of_clean_data 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Multiman2000 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She said her plan will eliminate "male disposability" by increasing the relative reproductive value of men.

I put that phrase in quotes because I believe the MRM coined it. I'm curious as to why a self identified feminist would use the term in such a manifesto.

Perhaps she's a troll...

[–]neveragoodtime 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In Real Life version of “Thanos was right.” I imagine she thought he was the good guy and was surprised when he lost to the girl power Avengers.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are these kinds of people given a platform? Not that I support censorship but these idiots ideas spread from one to another like fire.

[–]re_animatorA5158 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It would be awful to live with so many women around. And I am one of them.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody can hate a woman like another woman.

[–]IronJohnMRA 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Please explain.

[–]re_animatorA5158 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh, I just mean that even being a woman myself, I really do like to have men around. Women can be hard to trust as friends, men in family make me feel safe and so on. A world with so few men would be really boring and chaotic.

[–]Greedyfr00b 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah guys are way more chill, you're right about that.. most guys I know hate drama and don't really start gossip, and even when we get into fights, we're back being friends right after, at most a few days later, depends what the fight was, but we really don't have beef or hold grudges against each other

[–]re_animatorA5158 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, that's exactly what I mean!

[–]AppleJuicePro -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really do like to have men around.

Oh that's so kind of you. So good to know my existence has been validated! barf

[–]pacsatonifil 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The world itself would come to a stop.

[–]Soft_Feature6386 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

White women have more rights than any other group, and are the most valued group in society -- but some have defined themselves as some sort of "minority group" which is constantly persecuted by "the patriarchy". The Femitheist is a product of this belief system, and carries it through to its starkest and logical conclusion. She expresses in a more extreme form beliefs that are reasonably widespread -- for example, the need for the positive, state-sponsored empowerment of women. This is even one aspect of neoliberalism.

[–]Jotnarsheir 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As much as I hate the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, (assuming she's not just trolling) then this women is not a feminist. She's not even a radical feminist, she's a eugenicist. This is everything I hate about fascism flipped to gender instead of race. It as if she read Huxley's Brave New world and didn't realize it was a parody.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Show me where any mainstream feminist have called her out. I'll just wait here.

[–]Jotnarsheir 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I whis I could.

[–]dorkahontas86 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Least she would see more readily how shitty women can be too. The ratio of more women only will leave more proof we are equally as capable of doing all the same horrible things she assumes only men do. As a woman I really hope no one is dumb enough to have children with this lady. Also chin up guys, there us ladies out here that are routing for you and against this stupid movement that is unnecessary.

[–]theshortman37207 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn it, you beat me to it.

[–]whoopshowdoifix 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bruh she’s legit advocating for anti-male eugenics and ghettos for men....

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, where'd she go?

[–]dukunt 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She supports the idea that women would rather be in a harem to an emperor than have 1 good man all her self.

[–]Francis_Dollar_Hide 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"It will be utopian because it will be a world almost without conflict"
Delusional.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2017/06/01/who-gets-into-more-wars-kings-or-queens

[–]Tmomp 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

She's Dr. Strangelove.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So. Crazy has a face.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

“Men would be made more valuable, and their quality of life would be dramatically improved. They would have a subsidised existence if you will, akin to going on an all-expenses paid vacation that lasts from birth to death.” Oh, you mean like the lives of most of the western women that claim to be oppressed.

[–]Greedyfr00b 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So she wants to make us slaves (and just CALL it something else) or just put in zoos for women to go to and do whatever they want with us... Wow what a psychopath.. she needs to be watched VERY closely, and if she tries anything, thrown in jail for a very long time

[–]Agirlformensright 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck!?

[–]RoryTate 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's an interesting observation that this lines up perfectly with online dating site data that shows women in general think 90% of men are below average when judged by attractiveness. Start believing what they are actually telling you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

all technological progress would end...but who cares.

who is going to design this whole high tech society. definitely not the woman who wrote this paper lmao

[–]logsdon36 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women would start competing to birth boys.

[–]Greedyfr00b 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TRUE! They'd all want to breed the 10%

[–]pappo4ever 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

She's not a crazy woman, she only says what all women think.

Women naturally act as if only the top 10% of men exists and the rest is invisible, in the same way that women just vanish from our view when their reach 35 or 40 year old.

So they naturally don't believe the other 90% of men should exist. This is not cultural, this is a powerful instinct. To counter this instinct, most religions created the marriage institution and banned polygamy thousands of years ago. This forced women to consider all men, and not to share only the top 10% that is their natural behavior.

Now that religion is retreating, women instinct of sharing the top 10% men and discarding the rest is returning, with all the pain and loneliness that this terrible thing causes to men and woman alike.

[–]forsandifs_r 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He's not wrong. Now of course that doesn't mean we should exterminate 90% of men lol... But we can't ignore base instincts, or pretend they don't exist. That road leads to ruin...

What we have to do is look at reality in the face. Asses it objectively and dispassionately and then act sensibly.

The only solution to the problem is to remove all references to gender or race from our laws. That way we have equal laws for all. That's it.

[–]pappo4ever 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You will still have the problem that women will prefer to share the top 10% of men, and ignore the rest. There is only one solution to this problem, already exists, and is called marriage. You need laws to encourage marriage and make it easier and advantageous for men, are make it less like the slavery contract that is now.

[–]forsandifs_r -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only slaves I see in modern western marriage are men.

But anyway, I disagree. I don't think government should be dictating personal behaviour, or discriminating between sexes.

I think the solution is equal laws and opportunity for all. And if you want to "get laid" so to speak improve yourself and until you are attractive enough... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–]Solomon_Alexander 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You can’t just get rid of 90% of one gender or the other. Let’s do a scenario: A person says “I am going to put a % of everyone besides the people that are specifically what I see as perfect into a camp for death. Tell me now how that’s fair or just.

[+]pappo4ever -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can’t just get rid of 90% of one gender or the other.

Oh surely you can. In wars. Historically 80% of men died in wars. But there are no wars anymore.

[–]Solomon_Alexander 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are still wars but now medicine and technology have advanced so people aren’t dying from trench foot

[–]Nobleone11 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And she's STILL revered in certain circles instead of enduring complete career ruination.

[–][deleted] 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Menace II Society.

[–]PacoBongers 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love this episode of Rick & Morty

[–]Banake 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Didn't she declared that this was some type of parody? I mean, she had that defunt website with Ann Sterzinger and Rachel Haywire. And she wrote this (I don't have a source because I belive that she closed all her sites, but I still have the e-mail from the time) some years after:

The Empathy Gap in Domestic Violence

Posted: 03 Dec 2015 04:31 PM PST

I have been a victim of domestic abuse in more than one relationship during the past few years, undergoing not only physical violence, but also prolonged emotional abuse, financial control, alienation from friends and family, and more. There are few people today who would find themselves unable to empathize with me in such scenarios, and even fewer who could openly express their indifference toward my suffering without unforgiving public rebuke and shaming. The same cannot be said for male victims of domestic violence.

In the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada, the percentages of male victims of domestic violence are roughly 40% [1:2], 50% [3], and 12%** [4], respectively. Even now, despite all of the activism, resources, and political attention directed toward women’s issues, victimized women may still struggle not only with recognizing the severity of their circumstances and escaping an abusive partner, but additionally with finding the help that they desperately need. Men, unfortunately, have it as bad if not worse in this regard.

Not only do men lack the same level of awareness for their issues, socially and politically, but they furthermore tend to have less social support and helpful resources than women, including shelters, which are a significant element of this. Similarly to women in certain cases, though, men may not perceive what they are experiencing as abuse, or they might simply not know how to escape their abuser. But unlike women due to differences in how they are perceived in society, they may also fear reporting due to stigma associated with male victimhood (being weak for allowing a woman to beat or control them, et cetera). At the same time, their abuse in the daily discourse over sex issues is regularly undercut or ignored, and reference to it is too frequently met with enmity, apathy, or contempt.

A public figure of any variety, but particularly a political figure, willing to state that my abuse did not or does not matter, or even the abuse of any other woman or women overall, would receive such a hostile response that it might very well snuff out their career and social life indefinitely. Yet there are still a number of individuals, occasionally fairly high-profile folk [5], who undermine, deny, mock, or react with great animosity toward any effort at initiating a dialogue over domestic violence perpetrated against men. (I have had the misfortune of encountering several in my time online.) But I am not asking for an apology on behalf of men from these kinds of people, or for anyone to lose their job as someone might lose their job for remarking that female domestic violence victims are unimportant, because it is not my place to make such requests.

As I noted above, people like me, and women at large, are not the ones under attack in this respect. There exists a general concern in our culture for my health and safety, and acknowledgement of my worth as a human being. Though escaping abuse is always difficult, I at least have myriad places that I can turn to for assistance. As a woman, I am not the one who would be beaten by a violent partner only to have numerous individuals online and elsewhere supposedly fighting for human rights and fairness erase, degrade, and disparage me; belittle my bruises, joke about drinking my tears, shut down every discussion possible of my pain, act with intense anger at the mention of my victimhood. That fate is reserved for men, especially where domestic violence victimization is concerned, and without correcting this problem, we can never achieve any manner of genuine “equality” in our society.

I do not, however, wish to merely preach to the choir here. I do not want only my anti-feminist friends to read this, reinforce their perspectives, and repeat what they already think about men mattering to me in response. I would not disagree with them expressing concern for every victim no matter their sex, but they are not the target audience. I know that feminists follow me on nearly all, if not all, of my profiles. I converse with some of them, and others are my good friends. I am aware that they recognize that this piece is indirectly about people that they might know or even typically agree with, and I am aware that they could feel attacked by this post, but that is not the chief purpose.

If you are one of those types of individuals alluded to above, either someone that I call friend or the other sort that I identified as a part of the problem, my primary reason for writing this is not to attack you. I am attempting to lift the veil of gendered politics and appeal to any sense that you have of common humanity and justice—right and wrong, fair and unfair—whatever you prefer to call it. Even if I may disagree with you on several of your social theories and refuse to adopt the label of “feminist,” I am not asking you to upend your entire worldviews, I am not asking you to abandon all of your beliefs about patriarchal structures in society, and I am not asking you to forget about women. My plea in this piece is to your empathy and decency. I am asking you to take the simple step of expressing compassion for victims of violence who also happen to be male. If you already do, then this is not for you.

For those to whom such empathy does not come naturally or easily, I would like you to consider that suffering is not a competition, or at least need not and should not be. We must understand that this is a shared human struggle which can be best faced solely when we work together and care for everyone equally no matter how they were born. Women and men in abusive relationships most often can comprehend the pain and misery of living every day or every other day for weeks, months, or years under such conditions. I am sure that many would likely wish for others in comparable situations to be freed of their suffering and helped with moving past it just as they would desire to be now, or were in the past. It should not take beating empathy into us for more of us to have a little basic human compassion and recognize that all victims are worthy of consideration and assistance regardless of sex.

There is a sense of frustration that I feel over the probable futility of writing this post, but it is outweighed by the horror that creeps over me each time I imagine what it would be like to be beaten or live in an abusive home for an extended period only to face individuals who claim to be fighting for equality mocking me, disregarding my experiences, or trying to stifle all discussions of circumstances akin to mine. The very idea of it is sickening, and yet it occurs every day to men as acceptance of the practice in modern debates on gender problems increases.

Let us care about all human beings. Endeavor to listen and strive to understand. Allow folk to share their stories and work toward greater resources to help more victims of wrongful and cruel acts and maltreatment. Refusing to do so is not only counterproductive, but detrimental to advocacy for women and men alike, the discourse over sex issues as a whole, and social liaisons between women and men in general. We can do better than this.

Author: Krista Milburn [@Femitheist]

(Continues)

[–]Banake 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

(I am not saying that you need to belive that the original video was a parody or satire, but that fact is that the same person wrote this some years after. I belive that she declared that her mother abused her too. I remember reading that she said that her mother used to sit on her. But I am too lazy to look in my e-mails to see if that text is still there.)

[–]Banake 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess I would like to add: even if she was not doing it as satire, so what? I don't hear from her for years. Meanwhile I keep hearing about Julie Bindel, Meghan Murphy and Phyllis Chesler. All of which would just laugh at the idea of a man being abused of raped. And even back in 2014/2015, I was hearing way more about Jessica Valenti and Amanda Marcotte than about The Femitheist, so talking about her sounds as an empty point by now.

[–]Banake 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I found an article of her posted here three years ago. Again, I don't know if she said these things as satire, but writing about male victims of domestic abuse is more than, let's say, Christina Hoff Sommers did. (I am sorry, I don't understant why so many MRAs put Hoff Sommers on a pedestal.)

[–]Banake 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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NOTE: I have made a donation to Respect.uk.net, which assists male victims of domestic violence (and women). I would recommend donating to or supporting the ManKind Initiative or SAFE instead, as they appear to be superior organizations for helping male victims of domestic violence specifically. I was unable to contribute to them due to technical issues on this go (with the former not accepting American Express and the options for donations not working for me on the latter), but they are next on my list, and they each do terrific work. Please support them or any of the other organizations linked below if you can! They are the people doing the work to help victims today.

NOTE II: If you liked this piece, feel free to share it, and if you have any thoughts on it or the general subjects discussed within, or even purely semi-related topics, please leave them in the comments below. I always enjoy reading the feedback of others whether they liked and agreed with what I had to say or not.

NOTE III: If you think that you have better statistics than the ones that I used here, post them in the comments! The current data is, unfortunately, not as clear or reliable as some individuals appear to believe.
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References (Last Accessed on December 2, 2015):

[1] U.S. Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault Data:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/ss/ss6308.pdf

[2] U.S. Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault Data (HTML Version):
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm?s_cid=ss6308a1_e

[3] UK Data:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/116483/hosb0212.pdf

[4] Canada Data:
http://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2013/jus/J2-383-2013-eng.pdf

[5] Domestic Violence Is Gender Blind, Unlike the Activists
http://blog.panampost.com/frank-worley-lopez/2015/11/30/domestic-violence-is-gender-blind-unlike-the-activists/
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Footnote
** It seems unlikely that the ratios of female to male victims of domestic abuse would vary that greatly between the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada; the point being made here is that the numbers for males are higher than most people would surmise no matter how you measure it. Delving into many of these studies and statistics is a common reminder that the data itself is likely not as reliable as researchers would prefer it to be. Issues of underreporting, incomplete coding of data by authorities, variations between general methodologies, confusion and differences caused by discrepancies in terminology, and so forth, must always be remembered.

Special Footnote
Regarding the CDC data and similar subjects, I think that it is a bit misleading to conflate rape with all other forms of “violence,” which ends up including factors such as “stalking and psychological aggression,” the latter of which is nearly even when it comes to female and male victims in a few cases.

I know that some people are fixated on making these comparisons, but to the average reader, when an article states “sexual violence,” they are going to think “rape,” not “psychological aggression.” This might actually serve to hurt the cause of those who make such claims by bringing into question their veracity. The error is in making the comparison at all as a means to justify how harmful any crime is to the individual victim. All victims should be treated equally.

The folk who conduct this research, from what I gather, are attempting to convey the message that we should endeavor to move away from women vs. men, not in the sense of hiding the data, but in the sense of providing attention to and funding for all of these issues across the board. If we could reduce the causes of “psychological” aggression, for example, that might have positive impacts on more serious crimes such as rape. Win-win.
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Resources for Victims of Domestic Violence (Last Accessed on December 2, 2015):

[Unused Reference]: Intimate Partner Violence: Attributes of Victimization, 1993–2011
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ipvav9311.pdf

- United States:

1) National Domestic Violence Hotline

Support Organizations Database

2) Mayo Clinic

Domestic Violence Against Men: Know the Signs

3) HelpGuide

HelpGuide.org: Help for Abused Men

4) An Abuse, Rape, and Domestic Violence Aid and Resource Collection

A.A.R.D.V.A.R.C

5) Men Web: Battered Men

Help for Battered Men

6) Stop Abuse for Everyone (SAFE)

How to Find Help

7) Haven Domestic Violence Shelter

Get Help Now

- United Kingdom:

8) Mankind Initiative

Help for Victims

For Professionals

Survivors’ Stories

9) Respect – Men and Women Working Together to End Domestic Violence

Male Victims

10) Domestic Abuse Stops Here (DASH)

The Dash Charity

- Australia:

11) One in Three

Services and Resources

- Scotland:

12) Abused Men in Scotland (AMIS)

Helpline

[–]Successful_Warthog58 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But who would get of their fat arses and do all the grafting?

[–]Hallbard 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Soooo, basically like "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley. God I hate that book.

[–]MensEquality 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This mindset can only exist when the male population represents a degraded segment of society to begin with.

[–]Banake 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know if this is worth anything, but she also worked on a website called Trigger Warning with Elizabeth Hobson. (Yes, I belive that it is the same Hobson who wrote on, among other places, A Voice for Men and Woke Father.)

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