Can You be an MRA and a Feminist at the Same Time?

EricAllonde · 2019-10-07T23:42:05+00:00

No. The MRM wants actual gender equality, while feminism is bitterly opposed to that and instead is focused on pursuing even more female privilege, special treatment and additional benefits.

foot_kisser · 2019-10-08T03:12:49+00:00

Can you say "I am an MRA and a Feminist"? Yes.

If you do, will MRAs accept you? Yes.

If you do, will Feminists accept you? No.

Lethn · 2019-10-07T23:39:10+00:00

Not with feminism as it is currently no.

Adanu0 · 2019-10-08T03:20:36+00:00

No. The greatest lie feminazis have ever managed is convincing the world they care about men when what they really want to do is tear men down and turn them into slaves to their whims. MeToo is a perfect example.

OscarAlexHasEntered · 2019-10-07T23:07:56+00:00

I think if you use the traditional or dictionary definition (wanting equality) then yes, but if you buy into the modern feminist stuff, then that’s gonna be a no.

KingRobotPrince · 2019-10-08T10:05:40+00:00

Just as George Orwell found that socialist don't care about the poor they only hate the rich, so feminists don't care about women, they only hate men.

wi7dcat · 2019-10-07T23:17:09+00:00

I doubt it. There are very few equality feminists out there.

2019-10-07T23:46:42+00:00

No. That would be like belonging to the NAACP and the KKK at the same time.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2019-10-08T12:28:52+00:00

Can you be a black civil rights activist and fight to uphold segregation and Jim Crow and all other aspects of legalized white supremacy at the same time?

SevenBall · 2019-10-07T23:36:07+00:00

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FormedBoredom · 2019-10-07T23:35:03+00:00

No. One fights for further superiority while the other fights for actual equality.

ThisFreedomGuy · 2019-10-07T23:07:29+00:00

Medium Range Artillery? I guess...

AskingToFeminists · 2019-10-08T12:33:48+00:00

Is it possible? Well, there are people who manage to have many kind of different incompatible beliefs at the same time. So, yes, it is possible.

Now, is it coherent? Not really, no. You see, to be an MRA, you have to do activism on behalf of men's rights. That's why it is called men's rights activism. And many may think at first glance that there is no incompatibility between that and being a feminist. Until they start examining more closely what underpins feminism.

You will find many to claim that only modern feminism is crazy and ma hating. Those people weren't present during the previous waves of feminism and don't have any kind of grasp on the history of the movement. They think of feminism as "that movement that gave women the right to vote and to work", which is at best factually inaccurate, when it is not purposefully misleading.

There were pushes for women's vote before feminism, and many of those who were for women's vote weren't feminists. Same goes with women's work, and so on.

Feminism, on the other hand, from its inception, was a political ideology with misandry at its core, which is hard to manage without a draping of misogyny around it. The first feminist text, the declaration of sentiment, states that "the history of mankind is the history of the oppression of women by men", which is inherently placing men as perpetrators, as evil, and women as victims, as weak and ineffectual, in addition to being completely false. And it then continued on its political move to more revisionism of history, more hatred of men, and more placing of women as victims of everything, all the while engaging in various domestic terrorism acts and the like, while spreading propaganda.

So, you see, you an have someone who claims to be a feminist and an MRA. The most likely case is that this person is completely ignorant about feminism. The second most likely case is that the person is in denial about feminism. And the other possible case, I guess, is people like what you see in menslib, which are so deeply indoctrinated in feminism that they are convinced they are actually trying to help men while doing more damage than good to men because their misandrist ideology prevents them from doing the right thing.

But with humans, any two sets of beliefs can be combined in the most incoherent way, so long as the person manage to avoid the cognitive dissonance.

scyth3s · 2019-10-08T23:21:58+00:00

Feminism is a women's advocacy movement. Men's rights is a men's advocacy movement. Realistically, you should be a little bit of both-- both genders have unique and pressing issues relevant to them.

The problem is that feminism often takes it too far, seeking to go well beyond equality. You should be an MRA and a feminist at the same time. Just, you know, keep the feminism bit in proper perspective and do the same to the MRA side should the hive start overstepping the bounds of equality.

ausgamer529 · 2019-10-09T19:22:00+00:00

No but you can be an egalitarian and support true equality

NekoiNemo · 2019-10-10T09:48:35+00:00

The real feminist, the first wave kind? Sure. But then you wouldn't be "MRA and feminist" - you would be egalitarian. Can you be modern feminist and MRA at the same time? No, they are literally antonyms.

OrionTheWolf · 2019-10-08T10:56:30+00:00

Yes you can, if you go by definitions, not every feminist wants “world domination”, if you want real equality then of course you can.

wi7dcat · 2019-10-08T00:53:46+00:00

hey guys. quick comment. i think you have an antiquated idea of feminism. it's not the era of bra burning and man hating anymore. modern feminism actually just means that you support women (their bodies, their minds, their strengths, their sexualities, their creativity, etc.). we're trying to do away with the idea that it has anything to do with men (negatively or positively). If you love and support your mom, your sisters, your partners, your daughters, etc., then you're a feminist. :D Hope you guys can start to believe that and support anyone of any gender and those who are non gender conforming as well. Thanks!

Can You be an MRA and a Feminist at the Same Time?

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Title	Can You be an MRA and a Feminist at the Same Time?
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Date	October 7, 2019 11:04 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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