What was the moment you realised The Red Pill is garbage?

PIGEONS_UP_MY_ASS · 2023-08-20T11:00:45+00:00

I don't really know, I think I just grew out of it. I was hard into the redpill anti-feminist rabbit hole when I was 13 - 14. Now I'm 17 and think it's a load of shit. I think maturing, and one of my favourite anti-feminist youtubers getting destroyed in a debate contributed to it

ColdSnickersBar · 2023-08-20T10:57:32+00:00

Disclaimer: I was never pilled. I’m here to help anyone trying to escape redpill get a soft landing.

I saw redpill evolve out of the old “seduction” and PUA communities in the aughts. I knew it was bullshit even back then because the claims being made were so dumb and also harmful. Back then, it was just date rape advice, so they hadn’t really honed it down into a full blown cult yet.

Unkl_Chng82 · 2023-08-20T15:00:06+00:00

I wasn't into red pill stuff either but I got into it later during the popularity of Kevin Samuel's. The point where I got sick of it was when Fresh and Fit got outed as using their platform to pick up women as well as Rollo Tomassi's stupid twitter post about high value men getting their tubes tied and him not explaining what he meant by the post. Also, my Christian beliefs conflicted with the theories of the red pill. I never agreed with cheating or promiscuity. Even the idea of the Alpha male isn't true because we're to esteem and treat others with respect not bully or dominate others.

Rough-Strength-2634 · 2023-08-20T16:52:43+00:00

When it became a lot less about men's self-improvement and much, much more about making those Google bucks (from YouTube), lining their own pockets and fueling division between men and women.

thebrickshithaus · 2023-08-20T16:56:08+00:00

All the advice I got just led to vapid hook up culture. These people dont tell you how to have a good relationship, just how to have leverage over gold diggers essentialy.

CalmLake1 · 2023-08-20T17:28:31+00:00

I got that redpill phase out in highschool. But I'm guessing the beginning of the lockdown in 2020 and when people were starting to make money off of redpill toxicity.

Sweet-Euphoria-42 · 2023-08-20T14:31:21+00:00

Back in 2014 when my guy friends started acting like duplicated robots. I was in a much milder Red Pill for women group (which was very different than it is now) and it just clicked. I ran as far as I could. Then I started studying it like a mad woman so I could detect it early.

GeorgeWashingtonKing · 2023-08-21T03:23:58+00:00

the youtuber fitxfearless had a group chat for members of his patreon and the toxicity in there was crazy. was dating a girl at the time who had a bit of a health scare, and the guys in the group were telling me to leave her and cheat on her because of it. they also bragged about cheating and other terrible shit towards women. it’s one thing to be a bachelor and do it in an honest/respectful way without leading anyone on and it’s another to just lie and cheat to get what you want

not-a-dude-at-all · 2023-08-21T15:24:09+00:00

Like 10 minutes after I've learned about it. My question was "why should I spend that much of my time and efforts just to get woman and then continue doing so just to keep her with me". And the most important "if women are schemers that just want my resources then I'll be happily alone". RP assume that I should rebuild my entire life in very particular way, change my interests and so on. But I already had things that I like to do and my life at least moved in general direction I wanted it to go. So all of that was big no-no for me.

young_edgar17th · 2023-08-21T17:47:09+00:00

It shames women for being hoes but they r the ones creating the hoes.
The redpill doesn’t believe in real relationships. Makes no sense that the man can cheat and the women has to suck it up.
Their excuse for cheating is that men can’t control their “sexual urges”. Makes no sense because they preach discipline in every aspect but sexual behavior.

Used to be into redpill earlier this year but when I actually got a labor job and a girlfriend my mindset changed big time. Got no time to be listening to degenerate content like fresh n fit.

sturgeo123 · 2023-08-21T23:16:12+00:00

Once it started to align with right wing politics

wandering0101 · 2023-08-22T11:13:50+00:00

When I saw a lot of guys saying horrible things about girls. They literally projected the worst thing on women to justify their frustration.

Sea_Department8293 · 2023-08-21T12:07:05+00:00

Red pill just blames women for everything, there all homosexuals mannn

Sea_Department8293 · 2023-08-22T10:01:34+00:00

It’s to extreme, saying Women shouldn’t vote, and have no place in society outside of reproduction and the kitchen is literally insane. Pearl says this too, saying women are useless in society. All these Men have mothers, sisters and will have daughters. They say this shit online but will never really say this in real life. It’s insane. The red pill community promotes vile misogyny under the guise of male self improvement and has destroyed a lot of male & female dynamics. Men hating women and Women just hating Men more. Red pill promotes such misogyny a lot of it is just illogical and irrational but because it’s against women it’s a good thing, and anything that favours women even in the slightest all of a sudden your a feminist or a simp. It’s gone to far. Saying you want to take away basic civil rights away from women won’t bring women into the conservative movement but will deter women from it. These red pillers don’t get this into their thick skulls.

Public_Survey_6812 · 2023-08-20T12:58:04+00:00

Is it garbage? Selling courses is but improving and empowering yourself so you don’t get used and abused doesn’t seem bad

sasa1- · 2023-08-22T11:03:41+00:00

im not educated like u what is redpill

Thenutritionguru · 2023-08-23T22:34:27+00:00

i've seen quite a few folks leave that whole red pill mentality behind. there isn't always one singular event that triggers it, but oftentimes it's a combo of realizing the negativity & toxicity that comes with it, and facing the fact that their relationships weren't improving, sometimes even getting worse.

for others, it might have been that they stumbled onto some resources criticising the red pill and offering different perspectives, which led to questioning their beliefs. or perhaps they've met or heard about people who live happily without following the red pill philosophy. wouldn't it be interesting to hear more stories?

remember, there isn't a "correct" way to feel or act after leaving the red pill. it's a personal journey of growth and understanding that looks different for everyone.

Rottingcarcasses · 2023-08-26T16:31:35+00:00

It seems that these red pill guys aren’t actually conservatives.

Noticing in person when I meet someone more liberal my traditional values don’t actually clash that bad, and he’s more willing to wait for intimacy and let it naturally progress.

So basically how I was being treated by red pill types vs. regular conservatives and liberal men.

Also the Anti-Semitism. 😒 I’m just not impressed by this. I’m all for conspiracies and willing to entertain any of them, but it seems unfounded and racist. As if it were an excuse for why men who treat women like shit can’t get laid.

Title	What was the moment you realised The Red Pill is garbage?
Author	Due_Fish_6662
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Date	August 20, 2023 9:58 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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