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Why don't incels just screw each other?

Fourthgood_Martial · 2023-09-20T03:20:53+00:00

This has probably been a question asked to death, but I just don't get why? If you're that desperately for touch and fucking, link up and take...

Fourthgood_Martial

September 20, 2023

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Title	Why don't incels just screw each other?
Author	Fourthgood_Martial
Upvotes	0
Comments	150
Date	September 20, 2023 3:20 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/AllPillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/16napms/why_dont_incels_just_screw_each_other/
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I think you'd have to make a controversial statement which is that homosexuality arose as a form of resources acquisition in punishing environments.

Meaning a feminine/twink man could get protection from another man if mates and resources were low, in exchange for sexual availability to that man, sort of like we see in prison on television.

From that position it stands to reason that of course women would do the same, happy to exist as a kings concubine than as a farmer's wife.

The difference being that women are aroused differently by men. See all the cat and femme boys trending the last few years? That's what your talking about.

But male biology is competitive and typically not the best for forming long term sexual and romantic relationships unless one is gay.

Lesbians experience higher rates of interpersonal drama too and abuse than hetero couples because women are more violent though I'll never be able to convince any living person of that lol.

Point being I guess that women are capable of shape shifting and pretending to be bisexual and even believing it is much more in a womans skillset than a man's. So idk what to make of all that lol

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ROTFLMAO dating hugely favors even women who are childfree. And even with the dangers of childbirth and let's also throw in violence against women... women still hilariously outlive men and are wildly more successful in procreating. The caveats don't even come close to matching the advantages.

I think it would really help men if they didn’t have a high sex drive but I don’t think it would fundamentally change how women act because women are more focused on everything else life has to offer rather than relationships.

Most women want a romantic hetero relationship. They are simply too spoiled for choice. Just about every animal species turns mating games on its head when there's a shortage of males - thus as a consequence a shortage of interested males. Today as I speak there are over 300 male escort bars in Tokyo alone, more than the rest of the world combined, partially because of Herbivore Men who gave up on women.

Supply and demand is a force that even nature can't beat.

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While it’s unclear why women live longer some say it has to do with less risk taking behavior, early detection of potentially fatal diseases, and strong social connections. These factors have nothing to do with nature and are instead related to behavior and choices. As I said, women are successful in procreation because of their role in reproduction which is carrying the child. I don’t think we need to compare men to women when it comes to reproduction because the differences are astounding. Not having children does not make someone a failure and a lot of men might be happier if they didn’t have this mindset.

From what I know, the issue in Tokyo is that the men are unappealing to women so rather than settling, women simply didn’t get married. I haven’t heard of these male escort bars but as we see, women still aren’t having children and they are getting their sexual needs met.

While it’s an unpopular theory I truly do believe that the same sex attraction will throw a wrench in how supply and demand might play out along with the ability to live without a partner. If there aren’t good options women don’t choose just for the sake of it which is why traditional market models cannot accurately predict what women might do.

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I don’t think we need to compare men to women when it comes to reproduction because the differences are astounding. Not having children does not make someone a failure and a lot of men might be happier if they didn’t have this mindset.

The imperative of a living being is to procreate. Those who don't are failures according to your law of nature. You can't have it both ways, either you're for nature or not.

From what I know, the issue in Tokyo is that the men are unappealing to women so rather than settling, women simply didn’t get married. I haven’t heard of these male escort bars but as we see, women still aren’t having children and they are getting their sexual needs met.

No, male escort bars are not prostitute bars. They're not getting laid there.

While it’s an unpopular theory I truly do believe that the same sex attraction will throw a wrench in how supply and demand might play out along with the ability to live without a partner.

And your evidence for this is what again?

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Ok, you got a bunch of shit wrong here

Starting from the top, the whole manatee thing was more ritualistic, than because they didn't have a woman. It is my understanding that when they accidentally caught one in their nets, they needed to sexually appease it to ward off evil spirits.

Its strange you'd pick a centuries old comparison to modern day problems, but you still got the reasoning wrong

You can see by women's dating standards and requirements in a male, that the gender that is the most unrealistic with their expectations is women. There is plenty of evidence that overall, women date up, men date down.

I think you been spending too much time on Reddit friend. The majority of incels are not like that. Well of course you are going to find people who do, frankly you can say the same about any group.

I don't view feminism negatively, considering how many feminists call for the death of all men. I don't view people of a particular race negatively due to stereotypes, ECT.

All in all though, would you make these same talking points with women who are single and cannot find a man, particularly ones in their 30's?

"I know you can't find a man that meets your standards. Have you considered just becoming a lesbian, or fucking a manatee?"

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