Female terrorists don't have the right to return to the UK, either

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Stripping one’s citizenship works when they are immigrants with another nationality. I completely agree with that. She has no other nationality and was BORN and raised in England. This is the key issue.

You again seem to use her skin colour as a justification for her not being “Real English”. Or the use of “Islam” as an excuse. I believe all the Abrahamic religions are wrong. But to say that Islam is worse than the other 2 or in someway an ideology of hate? That just shows a lack of knowledge on the subject. There are plenty of Muslims that are extremely reasonable and good people. By and large, almost all of them are good people. We are just spoon fed the bad apples and that brings out the stereotypes and discrimination. It’s the same thing that happened to the Jews in Europe. A few bad apples and bad situations used to generalise all of them. It’s very wrong.

And if you believe she’s a waste of tax payer money - you need to lobby your government. Find a way to change the laws. Bring the death penalty back if you believe criminals, terrorists, among others shouldn’t be in jail. I’m sure we all have opinions on these things.

I personally would go for lifetime in prison with a job that has some degree of karma to it.

For example:

Rapists should go to jail for life and manufacture tampons/pads that get distributed for free.
Terrorists should go to jail for life and manufacture pillows/blankets for homeless people so that they can sleep better at night.
Thieves should go to jail and write motivational quotes for people to work harder rather than taking the easy way out.

Anyway, just a crazy idea. But the main point is: she’s from England. Born and raised with no other nationalities. Try put it into reverse. A white english family move to Bangladesh. They give up their English nationality and take the passport of Bangladesh. They have a kid that speaks Bengali and never visits England. He only has a passport from Bangladesh. He becomes a criminal and murders people. Would England accept them back?

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As mentioned in the article, at the time of revocation she DID have Bangladeshi citizenship. If anything, Bangladesh broke the conventions around making someone stateless. She can go there and appeal the decision. She may win, get arrested and executed for being the piece of shit she is. Maybe, but that’s not the UK’s problem given her no longer being a citizen and all.

As for skin colour - you weaseled that into the conversation and are now trying to gaslight me into thinking I’m the racist? Sorry mate, no.

As for Islam, I don’t think it requires further explanation what its role has been in this, and many, many, many other cases like this. It’s an ideology with some very obvious problems. If you don’t see that then you either live under a rock or on the moon or something, as it’s almost a universal truth that where there is Islam, there is appalling poverty, violence and / or abuse.

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Key word being “currently”. She is currently stateless because Bangladesh revoked / expired her citizenship after the UK revoked hers. As such, she should be appealing in Dhaka, not London. I’m sure they don’t want this piece of shit either, but over there she has an actual case grounded in international law.

As for Islam being incompatible with western values, I would say that the proof is in the pudding. Have you ever lived in a Western European country in or near a city? You’ll see a pattern there - where the muslims live, there is more poverty, crime, violence, honour killings, you name it.

I grew up in one of the “better” ones (NL). At the surface a harmonious and prosperous country, but when you look beneath the surface you’ll see huge problems with Moroccans, Turks, Somalians who outright reject Dutch values of equality. What do these groups have in common? Islam. They find islam more important than the laws and values of the country that’s given them shelter from grinding poverty.

I currently live in Australia. And guess what, it’s again the case that where the muslims are, the problems are. Here it’s the Lebanese population that are mired in organised crime and toxic, violent masculinity to a degree where entire neighbourhoods are simply not safe.

Another key example: Sweden.

It really doesn’t matter where you go in the world - islam is correlated with terror, poverty and social instability. It instills in people an unwillingness to adapt and a complete inflexibility of thought. Ergo, it’s a totalitarian ideology. It doesn’t really matter what the books say in the end, as the proof is in the pudding, but:

_Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …"

Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."_

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You’re clearly not Dutch, I am. You would have known from my name if you were. You have made an outright exaggeration. There are just as many shitty Moroccan origin Dutch youths as there are white Dutch youths. In fact, in many cases there are more white trash.

You generalising an entire group while misquoting the Quran stands out here. You clearly have opinions but haven’t bothered doing any research. The best way to learn is to ask questions and to be open minded.

3:151 this verse refers to the battle of Uhud. The Battle of Uhud is the second most essential battle in early Islamic history. According to the Islamic calendar, it was fought on the 3rd Shawwal 3 AH. The Uhud war took place in the valley of Mount Uhud near Madinah. In the battle, Muslims in the Prophet Muhammad’s (PBUH) army defended themselves against the raiding Quraish army. The Muslims had an initial edge under the leadership of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). However, they lost to the enemy for leaving their posts and celebrating the victory too early. Today, the battlefield of Uhud is open for pilgrims and tourists to experience the religious values of the field.

This surrah is pretty much just a battle cry. It claims that because god is on your side, you will succeed in fending off the raids and you will not get invaded. It then goes on to say that the war is lost if you stop believing.

2:191 you have misquoted too. Right before that it says:

Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you but do not trangress limits for Allah loves not the transgressors. (Quran 2:190)

In the earlier verse it is very clearly stated to fight only those who attacks first.

Then Allah says : And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers. (Quran 2:191)

And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (Quran 2:192)

Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors. (Quran 2:193)

You’re welcome.

I don’t believe in all of this myself. But at least read the 3 books before coming out with misquotes and very disingenuous comments. I promise you, you’ll find significantly more horrific comments in the Bible and Torah.

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Title	Female terrorists don't have the right to return to the UK, either
Author	ShitLordOfTheRings
Upvotes	1306
Comments	133
Date	February 23, 2024 4:47 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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