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[–]Canadian-Seductioner 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
I mean, being able to seduce many different women is a sign of good game so it makes sense that people would want to know that. This is a seduction subreddit after all, not a "make friends with women" subreddit.
[–]random_af_guy2 points 4 years ago [recovered] (23 children) | Copy Link
Yes. It requires the same skills though. Use it how you want, but you can't say I didn't show you how to meet women and open the door of opportunity.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Not really, the skills required to get a woman to suck your dick are very different to the ones required to become friends with them.
[–]random_af_guy2 points 4 years ago [recovered] (20 children) | Copy Link
Then teach your ways man. My way is probably too much effort than you wanted to hear, but for the majority of men, it can lead to the same conclusion.
This kind of effort for the sole purpose of getting a blow job, is not worth it. This kind of effort is a middle ground for building a successful life and being influential.
It's the difference between a low quality guy trying to trickster a woman into sleeping with him, and the guys that are having no problems with the ladies. The guys that have built a status and a social circle. The guys that women want.
But that's too much effort.
Let's all hear how to walk up to a stranger and make her beg you to drop your pants. Go ahead. I'm interested.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Then teach your ways man.
I already do. Go through my previous posts if you want to learn.
It's the difference between a low quality guy trying to trickster a woman into sleeping with him, and the guys that are having no problems with the ladies. The guys that have build a status and a social circle. They guys that women want.
No tricks needed. All I'm saying is seduction is very different from friend-making. Friend-making doesn't have an escalation ladder, for instance.
[–]willgo-waggins 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This exactly.
[–]random_af_guy2 points 4 years ago [recovered] (16 children) | Copy Link
I just did. It looks like you have put in a lot of the effort. I would say it's a job well done. I'm not degrading your strategy. It's a perfectly fine strategy. It seems very focused on pursuing women with explicit intentions.
I'd say my only difference, is that mine is focused around community building and business. It's more political, minus politics. It results in being well known as a leader. I don't approach. I get approached. I create an environment that is much bigger than a tinder profile.
Yours is outbound marketing, mine is inbound marketing.
It's just a different way of looking at the idea of seducing a woman. I warm the leads before I even speak to them.
Same outcome.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Maybe, but at the end of the day, the defining metric is how many women your strategy gets you in bed with, hence my point in my first comment in this thread about how it makes sense that people are asking you about your sexual results since that's the ultimate goal of everything we're doing in this subreddit.
[–]willgo-waggins 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Man that guy 🙄
That and even get with in general. I mean if we are talking about Seduction as I’m approaching the opposite sex for interaction on a sexual and involved level, you don’t go out yourself right into the friend zone. EVER.
And I don’t like the act of “I get quality women in special places and you don’t.”
Now he just sounds like an arrogant jackass.
My last three serious ones.
A Senior Supervisor for a State agency with a successful side Real Estate business.
A lawyer (now judge).
A high ranking systems Program Director for the Governor’s office.
Quality is not an issue my man. And all three slept with me immediately or within a few days. And all were LTR (one marriage).
Stop the bullshit about how you are a special guy. You’re chasing pussy like everyone else.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Did a little scroll through his profile. Turns he got married at 18, divorced at 29, had 5 kids during that time, and is now 31, meaning he's only been in the game for 2 years (while juggling the responsibilities of caring for 5 children, no less). This means his lay count must be quite low, possibly even below 10, which is why he is so avoidant about revealing it and expressing such a holier-than-thou attitude about hookups in general since those are fairly out of reach for him at this point in his life. Going to be taking his posts with a heavy grain of salt going forward.
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah that all fits.
You gave it more energy than I would but that’s me for doing the look. Good to know and anyone else needs to know that as well to use their best judgement on whether or not to listen.
[–]vardarac 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
expressing such a holier-than-thou attitude about hookups in general since those are fairly out of reach for him at this point in his life
Really? I'm 32 and I'm struggling, but I'm hoping that it's not too late to explore this. I'm definitely not cut out for marriage or relationships.
[–]random_af_guy1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link
Yes, and the reason I posted, is because I've been asked how many lays I get.
I'm letting them know, I'm not. I'm explaining that it's not due to bad setup, it's because I've moved passed that phase in life.
I'm giving some reflections on life for how to set the stage without going down the path of rejection and wasted time. Which is guaranteed. The ones that are drawn to grow other aspects of life as well. Especially the guys that don't have the time to pursue women directly. The ones that can't spend every night going on dates, sorting through tinder, and hitting up clubs. I'm giving them another route.
Is that so bad?
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Never said it was bad, I'm merely explaining why guys are asking you for that metric and the more you try to avoid saying what it is, the more guys will doubt your expertise on the topic of seduction, that's all.
[–]random_af_guy2 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Gotcha. Yea, I'm not a player. Not a pickup artist. I'm just good with people, psychology, and selling myself. Thanks man 😎
[–]willgo-waggins 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I question whether you have “moved on” or it’s moved on from you?
Because I know a LOT of older guys that talk good but can’t pull any more because you look and ACT old.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It was never a part of his life to begin with, OP is lying out of his ass. I doubt his lay count is higher than 10.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Your way sounds boring as fuck.
Nah he’s just too wordy about it and busy trying to glorify it.
If I researched I’d likely find he’s pushing some PUA site or video for sale. It sounds like it.
I do all that but not for all. I separate the ones I want to bed or get serious with and I don’t intentionally “friend” women as business or political (actually the real deal) connections and have them hanging around as a potential relationship or sexual partner.
That’s a really dangerous game to play in the MeToo world.
No he’s correct and you are not - albeit crude.
I apply very different social methods to being friends/friendly with women than when I am trying to seduce or bed them.
An excellent example is when you approach a group of women with a target or two in mind. It is incredibly rare that you would find such a group (let’s say four because that is generally the most common) that you are interested in all of them or they you. Most often you have caught the eye of one or two and you also have interest in one or two. I had this experience just the other night. A group of four. Two possibles. One left with me. However I BEFRIENDED at he entire group to utilize them as my built in wingwomen to gain trust with my actual target(s). And it worked successfully because I did not give off pickup vibes to the others only the two and as time moves the one.
So there is a distinct difference in not only your approach, but also your tactic and control of the interaction to achieve the desired affect.
I also do t often play the way you described at all. I keep any women of interest in a possibility state not a friend zone. That is a woman’s trick to control a man and not be bothered by his sexual advances and I only resort to that in certain situations and after I have already bedded her so I control the narrative.
[–]Dakessian -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like to do both.
[–]random_af_guy1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Also, friends is subjective. I have 2 good friends. Everyone else I'm friendly with. They invite me out and I throw parties where everyone is invited.
Happy for you!
[–]AnthonyAValera 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Im successful with women and focusing on my money now with a beautiful girlfriend, but imo ur advice is not really applicable to guys who have never seen a woman naked or just starting to learn about women. u feel me ? this is a good mindset to have once u dont have approach anxiety anymore and know with complete confidence that u can pull. but if guys have approach anxiety or even social anxiety, they need to focus on conquering that first.
[–]UnknownWolf719 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right on the money. I still have approach anxiety and some social anxiety because I lack experience. I’ve only had one girlfriend, but over time I’ve learned that fear makes you braver in the end
[–]RPslimjim 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link
My n-count is over 100. But I’m also 6’1, 225 pounds of muscle, beard, make 6 figures with my own place and vehicle.
My game is decent. Before I matured I really had to make sure my game was top notch. But as I started to mature and self improve I had to have less game. I could essentially just introduce myself and get a number of take a girl out to coffee and sleep with her in a few dates.
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[–]random_af_guy8 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
This guy gets it. Maturity and self improvement goes a lot farther. Focus on your career and health the whole time.
All of these things you can build.
[–]International-Leg-43-3 points 4 years ago [recovered] (35 children) | Copy Link
Yeah sure buddy and I’m Ironman. Someone who really is this what you claim to be doesn’t need conformation on a fucking subreddit.
[–]RPslimjim 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
And who says I need confirmation? Look threw my post history and you’ll see me telling men to get in the gym and improve their lives. Where there that’s school or a trade, etc.
I was born tall but I was a scrawny guy until I graduated college. Went monk mode for a year, finished a masters and pivoted into a new career. I help men find the best version of themselves. A few years back I almost deleted myself over a girl and I damn sure don’t want a fellow man to go thru that.
[–]International-Leg-43 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Nice but let me tell you something. Showing off is considered low self esteem. You tell us random internet people these things now I ask you for what? Wanna know something I’m taller than you who knows maybe i even make more money (ignore the Porsche Turbo S in my profile). The thing is it doesn’t matter to the internet who you are. Here we are all the same. We can lie, we can claim things, we can make reality just as we like nobody can prove you wrong. Because nobody really sees you. So do yourself a favor and don’t do this kind of self presentation its embarrassing. And it’s nice you want to help other guys but the best thing you’re doing with such attitude is giving insecure men even more problems.
[–]random_af_guy6 points 4 years ago [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link
Yea this is not showing off. There's a difference between bragging and having pride.
Society has misled you. Not sure if it's the "toxic masculinity" messaging they force down our throats, or if you just can't handle someone sharing life experience and how they got there.
Either way, I think you should check yourself
[–]International-Leg-43-2 points 4 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link
And someone making 6 figures (i love that quote 6 feet tall 6 figures 6 inch) sitting here on Reddit making over a thousand comments. Come on dude and you believe this.
[–]TheTolietWhoSpeaks 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You sound bitter brother. Gonna be completely honest. It may just be true
[–]International-Leg-43 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No bitterness just no nerve for online wannabes
Im sorry. I get what your saying. Your calling him on the numbers he used. I don't get caught up on the details. Its the overall moral he presented that I grant the most value.
I think your picking at details to devalue the argument because it makes you feel bad. Then you are virtue signaling that you wouldn't brag about stuff to create your own authority.
[–]International-Leg-43 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
That’s exactly the point in your other comment you said i stay on the side of masculinity them being true of false not being important. This statement alone disqualifies your from this discussion entirely.
[–]random_af_guy1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
Your right. I shouldn't have given you a window in that last argument. I tried to meet you half way and accept your notion that his details are not defendable.
His argument still stands without them.
[–]International-Leg-43 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You tell me which argument ?
6 feet is the length of 8.28 Zulay Premium Quality Metal Lemon Squeezers.
[+]International-Leg-43 -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
OP are you a fucking idiot or what . This is the fucking internet you moron. Absolutely everything here can be made up. That guy could be basement dweller living with his mum. Writing all these stuff to get attention. Hell even his statements don’t make sense. He has all this and wanted to end his life over a women what the hell. Who wants to kills himself when you have that kind of life. Second thing is why the statements about his life. For what ? we are not the women he wants to impress with this. It’s bullshit. Open your eyes. The most realistic thing on this subreddit is what I just wrote down. It’s the fucking internet man not your psychotherapist.
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[–]International-Leg-43 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
He is pushing himself you moron. For what is this information if not for attention. How can you people be so colossally dumb.
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[–]International-Leg-43 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You really like to ride his dick do you. I’m sure you would gladly bent down for guys like him. Incredible what kind of morons the internet spawns. It’s highly amusing. Now I don’t even wonder about the conspiracy theories about corona. It’s people like you who are responsible.
[–]vardarac 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't think he's saying that to flex as much as he is to try to qualify what he's saying. Like "you have ligma. trust me, i'm a doctor"
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[–]International-Leg-43 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Again with this you are a virgin insults. Like a fucking 5 year old. Making statements is one point clading them in glitter and gold is for attention.
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[–]International-Leg-43 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Believing everything you see on the internet a disease.
Hah what exactly do you see my stupid and confused friend tell me what did this guy claim that you can see.
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[–]International-Leg-43 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m waiting for your reply sir. Or have you run out of arguments?
And these boxes are 6 figures 6 feet tall beard muscles a car and a house/apartment ??? Hahah and you thing I’m jelaous or mad.
[–]willgo-waggins 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I can only identify with your final line.
The rest is just a ramble about your personal choices and methods. And as was stated above, it is t at all applicable to younger men who are brand new to this or green and trying to figure it out.
I don’t talk about how many women I’ve been with in my life because first it is nobody’s business but my own and theirs, and second I long ago got tired of being called a liar, a braggart, a storyteller and the like.
I know my personal history but is not a matter of pride or points. It is what it is. For longer more serious relationships alone starting from mystery first year of college when I met my college GF (and skipping earlier encounters and relationships), the longest (o er one year duration) would count as her, three marriages, and two king term relationships. That is a scant six that account for a LOT of my personal sexual activity time in my life. Before there were several from seventeen when I first slept with a woman until the first LTR. In between which was a lot of time in itself, I honestly forget more than I can remember. They had to be at least short term dating or GF or extraordinary to stand out. ONS’s, casual flings and as I have stated elsewhere I have been a swinger for most of my adult life including with one of my wives so the numbers become exponential in those situations.
But the upshot is that I have learned two very important things. One about myself, and the other a good general lesson.
About myself and sex and sexuality in general, I learned that if you have a connection - even if it is t permanent or long term - the sex is the difference between driving an ordinary sedan even brand new, and driving a fine Italian sports car as fast as you can dream. It really is that different and I am happier and prefer commitment and exclusivity when I have this in life.
The second is that after you learn what works for you to close the deal, you should never pursue ever again to begin things. When you pursue, you give up your power. And I don’t mean in a negative manner as a Narcissist or Dom. I mean you give up your ability to keep yourself and your space and needs from a situation intact. You become a servant, a toady and a fool for something that exists in incredible abundance all around you. And when you do this, you also compromise your personal boundaries.
[–]willgo-waggins 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The problem is you asked a simple question.
“How many girls have you been with?”
Then you proceed to lecture that you should t be going out trying to sleep with a bunch of women.
Sorry but you come off with that like my married middle aged buddies at work who see me operate at parties and drive me batshit crazy every Monday wanting to know what I’ve done every weekend so they can live vicariously through my action.
It doesn’t give you any air of authority and you come off as pretty arrogant in your other statements about low quality vs quality women.
I don’t waste time with low quality women. And just because the ones I take want to sleep with ME does not speak to quality at all. That’s about them and me, not some random false morality scale.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You sound like one of those types who becomes a woman’s friend just to fuck them over.
This is toxic dude.
[–]Smitty-TBR2430 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Seduction is the art of leading a woman to bed but allowing to her believe it was her idea all along. 😁 Fact: we’re guys. We want to fuck; as frequently as possible, as many women as possible, and the prettiest women possible. It’s a basic biological drive to continue our species, refined only by cultural &/ or personal preference & restricted by our frontal lobes.
Providing advice to one who requests it is noble. To provide unrequested advice to one who did not request such advice can be seen as boastful and boorish.
[–]Napalm_in_the_mornin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’ve been with tens of thousands. I’ve been with women in cars. I’ve been with women in line at the store. Once when I was born.
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